2nd Test - Australia v New Zealand Hobart Dec 9 - Dec 13 2011

[beads6]

f**k off dickhead Watson's bowling is all he's contributed in 2011, dumb merkin

still not going to pick him primarily as a bowler. The side needs a genuine 5th bowling option.

Seriously stop posting you are embarrassing yourself with every syllable. :crazy:

 

[BunniesMan]

Hughes
Warner
Marsh
Watson
Clarke
Hussey

There's your top 6 for boxing day. Khawaja next picked if any of those get injured or on Husseys retirement.

 

[Bazal]

Our batsman have been doing average on green wickets. Win today and they deserve the chance to backup on boxing day.

I agree with that. I just think that the selectors will certainly bring Watson back if fit (and so they should, he's among our best players)...and they see him as an opener. So one of these two is going to miss out.

Personally, if Hughesy gets a hundred or thereabouts here I'd be bringing Watson in for Khawaja and batting him at 4. I just don't see the selectors going that way given they've been very clear about seeing Watson as an opener at this stage. And lets not get carried away either, Hughes is looking a lot better but he's still only on 20. There's a long way to go for both openers.

 

[beads6]

Marsh was our form batsman along with Clarke prior to injury I think he cemented his spot more than Hughes, Warner or Khawaja. Personally I think Khawaja might be looking grim if Marsh is fit. Hughes as well if Watson is fit.

I agree but given Marsh has injury problems worse then Watson do we really want to rush him back in short of a gallop??

 

[typicalfan]

I agree but given Marsh has injury problems worse then Watson do we really want to rush him back in short of a gallop??

Not really, I don't know where they are at in terms of their recovery, I am pretty much throwing up the hypothetical.

 

[beads6]

Not really, I don't know where they are at in terms of their recovery, I am pretty much throwing up the hypothetical.

Marsh is named in the Chairman's XI so runs there would cement his spot and I have no problem with that but he is a risk given his injuries.

 

[BunniesMan]

Looking at some of those highlights Healy was an outstanding keeper to Warne and Macgill turning it about 4 metres. Everyone goes on about Gilchrist because of what he brought to the game with his batting but I'd still prefer Healy.

 

[beads6]

Looking at some of those highlights Healy was an outstanding keeper to Warne and Macgill turning it about 4 metres. Everyone goes on about Gilchrist because of what he brought to the game with his batting but I'd still prefer Healy.

just another reason why you have no idea... :crazy::lol::lol::lol:

 

[typicalfan]

Looking at some of those highlights Healy was an outstanding keeper to Warne and Macgill turning it about 4 metres. Everyone goes on about Gilchrist because of what he brought to the game with his batting but I'd still prefer Healy.

Gilly kept to MacGill and Warne as well. Gilchrist averaged near 50. Gilchrist in reality should have gotten his opportunity sooner, we all know about his innings in Hobart in 1999.

 

[Bazal]

just another reason why you have no idea... :crazy::lol::lol::lol:

Healy was twice the keeper Gilly was. Gilchrist was a devastating batsman but he was an average keeper. You're right about BM having no idea though

 

[BunniesMan]

just another reason why you have no idea... :crazy::lol::lol::lol:

Gilly kept to MacGill and Warne as well. Gilchrist averaged near 50. Gilchrist in reality should have gotten his opportunity sooner, we all know about his innings in Hobart in 1999.

Gilchrist averaged 50. He could and should have been in our team for a decade even if he didn't keep.

In an all time Aussie 11 where you presume the top 6 will get the job done, Healy would be my keeper.

 

[typicalfan]

Gilly was underrated as a keeper. And besides their influence on the national side can barely be comparable. Gilchrist pretty much walks into an Australian All Time XI.

 

[BunniesMan]

And the nuffys talking about technical changes taking years. Hughes has fixed a pretty major flaw in 1 day. Defending straight back down the wicket instead of to point/cover was one of his biggest flaws. The other was not leaving often enough.

Both things he's fixed in 1 day, not 1 year.

 

[beads6]

Healy was twice the keeper Gilly was. Gilchrist was a devastating batsman but he was an average keeper. You're right about BM having no idea though

I am not sure calling Gilly an average keeper is very fair TBH. I don't recall Gilly doing much wrong behind the stumps until his last summer.

 

[BunniesMan]

Gilly was underrated as a keeper. And besides their influence on the national side can barely be comparable. Gilchrist pretty much walks into an Australian All Time XI.

Noones debating that, but I'm arguing he's good enough to be our all time 11 number 6. Healy is our greatest ever keeper. He's at #7 and the keeper. Gilchrist #6.

 

[typicalfan]

Gilchrist averaged 50. He could and should have been in our team for a decade even if he didn't keep.

In an all time Aussie 11 where you presume the top 6 will get the job done, Healy would be my keeper.

In my XI I would presume nothing and Gilchrist would never be contested. Gilchrist never had issues keeping to Warne so I would have no reason to overlook him. That and he would destroy the opposition with the bat.

 

[Bazal]

He was international standard, sure, but he was nothing special. Haddin at his best is a better gloveman IMO, although not as consistent. Healy was the best keeper ever

 

[beads6]

He was international standard, sure, but he was nothing special. Haddin at his best is a better gloveman IMO, although not as consistent. Healy was the best keeper ever

:lol::lol: Stop it please... I am wasting scotch.

 

[BunniesMan]

In my XI I would presume nothing and Gilchrist would never be contested. Gilchrist never had issues keeping to Warne so I would have no reason to overlook him. That and he would destroy the opposition with the bat.

The lions share of the keeping Gilchrist did to Warne was after his injuries reduced the super ripping leg break that turned the width of the pitch.

He had a much easier job than Healy in the 90s.

All time XI:
6. A Gilchrist
7. I Healy

 

[typicalfan]

Noones debating that, but I'm arguing he's good enough to be our all time 11 number 6. Healy is our greatest ever keeper. He's at #7 and the keeper. Gilchrist #6.

I could leave the 6 spot for an allrounder like Keith Miller or a batsman like a Greg Chappell or Ricky Ponting rather than wasting a position on a second keeper.