5th ODI: Australia v England at Perth (Optus Stadium) on Jan 28, 2018 - England won series 4-1

[ANTiLAG]

Ummmmm how about a novel idea and picking the best 4 bowlers????

It’s a world side Woakes batting shouldn’t even come into it.

Because I disagree with that philosophy.

I much prefer the current England, Safrican and oft Indian approach of having an allrounder at 8.

 

[2 weeks]

2-3 does look better, but when the 7th Aussie wicket fell, I don't think too many Aussies were laughing at how England were 5/8.

Seriously, how good is Woakes with the bat? He'd be who I want at 8 in a current odi World XI with Shakib up higher. May fit Stokes in, may not.

I doubt you've got the courage to answer as you've ducked it for a day, but i'll give you another chance.
You were definite that I had made tennis jokes, can you let me know what they were?

 

[hineyrulz]

Because I disagree with that philosophy.

I much prefer the current England, Safrican and oft Indian approach of having an allrounder at 8.

it’s a world side, why would a pie
thrower like Woakes get a run because he is a handy bat???

Let me think you’d have Satner as you spinner because he can bat a bit as well????

 

[ANTiLAG]

I doubt you've got the courage to answer as you've ducked it for a day, but i'll give you another chance.
You were definite that I had made tennis jokes, can you let me know what they were?

Courage? I thought JJ clarified this. I mistook you for another poster on here.

 

[ANTiLAG]

it’s a world side, why would a pie
thrower like Woakes get a run because he is a handy bat???

Let me think you’d have Satner as you spinner because he can bat a bit as well????

Actually, NZC fans are more upset with Santner's failings as a bat. So your example is not that good.

A world side, like any side, is picked on a philosophy. You seem to assume 4 best bowlers is the way to go. Why not 5 best? Or 6 best? Because you have in your mind already a certain philosophy that dictates selection.

So do I.

And I want more runs at 8 with the bat than you do and I will sacrifice some bowling quality to get it.

 

[2 weeks]

Courage? I thought JJ clarified this. I mistook you for another poster on here.

Apology accepted.

 

[hineyrulz]

Actually, NZC fans are more upset with Santner's failings as a bat. So your example is not that good.

A world side, like any side, is picked on a philosophy. You seem to assume 4 best bowlers is the way to go. Why not 5 best? Or 6 best? Because you have in your mind already a certain philosophy that dictates selection.

So do I.

And I want more runs at 8 with the bat than you do and I will sacrifice some bowling quality to get it.

As I said Mr selector good for you.

But the fact is his bowling is not even close to good enough to crack a world side.

 

[ANTiLAG]

As I said Mr selector good for you.

But the fact is his bowling is not even close to good enough to crack a world side.

He's been bowling 5.3's in the Morgan era of big scoring games doing a lot of death and powerplay bowling. That with his runs off the bat is good enough for me. Its not like he has to take the new ball in a world XI as 4th bowler, nor is there that much in the white Kookaburra for all that long the last 2 years.

You have a differing view. I don't mind.

But Woakes' performances and abilities have gone a long way to improving the England team, and they sorely missed him at the Champions Trophy. He may not impress you much, but I doubt by all the press he getting in England right now that they're all disappointed in him.

There don't seem to be many calls for the re-selection of Anderson and Broad over there. Bar Broad himself.

 

[hineyrulz]

Yep selecting a world XI is serious business.

You probably made a spreadsheet and ran all the numbers though your speshal system you made up for ODI cricket.

Where I just see Woakes bowl and know he is just good enough for that level.

 

[The Mad Hatter]

England will blister through the World Cup and fail at the semi stage.

They don't have the bottle Australia and India have.

 

[TheParraboy]

Yep selecting a world XI is serious business.

You probably made a spreadsheet and ran all the numbers though your speshal system you made up for ODI cricket.

Where I just see Woakes bowl and know he is just good enough for that level.

There’s a bit of Chappelli in what you wrote there mate

 

[hineyrulz]

There’s a bit of Chappelli in what you wrote there mate

I was wearing a horse Blanket in 37 degree heat when I wrote it

 

[ANTiLAG]

Yep selecting a world XI is serious business.

You probably made a spreadsheet and ran all the numbers though your speshal system you made up for ODI cricket.

Where I just see Woakes bowl and know he is just good enough for that level.

Well, no offence intended Hiney, but if given the choice of a sabermetric player analysis or your bare opinion, I'm going with the sabermetrics.

But maybe you could tell all those analysts working in cricket now that they're not needed, and for fans working on analysis to cease, as you could just watch some games and tell 'em all they need to know.

 

[hineyrulz]

Well, no offence intended Hiney, but if given the choice of a sabermetric player analysis or your bare opinion, I'm going with the sabermetrics.

But maybe you could tell all those analysts working in cricket now that they're not needed, and for fans working on analysis to cease, as you could just watch some games and tell 'em all they need to know.

Ok I will, f**king nerds.

 

[The Mad Hatter]

I was wearing a horse Blanket in 37 degree heat when I wrote it

That's a helluva thing.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

ICCs ODI team of the year.

1. David Warner (Australia)
2. Rohit Sharma (India)
3. Virat Kohli (captain) (India)
4. Babar Azam (Pakistan)
5. AB de Villiers (South Africa)
6. Quinton de Kock (wicket-keeper) (South Africa)
7. Ben Stokes (England)
8. Trent Boult (New Zealand)
9. Hasan Ali (Pakistan)
10. Rashid Khan (Afghanistan)
11. Jasprit Bumrah (India)

8. Trent Boult
Is it just me, or is Woakes spelt wrong?

Or is it lightsabermetrics?

 

[hineyrulz]

ICCs ODI team of the year.

1. David Warner (Australia)
2. Rohit Sharma (India)
3. Virat Kohli (captain) (India)
4. Babar Azam (Pakistan)
5. AB de Villiers (South Africa)
6. Quinton de Kock (wicket-keeper) (South Africa)
7. Ben Stokes (England)
8. Trent Boult (New Zealand)
9. Hasan Ali (Pakistan)
10. Rashid Khan (Afghanistan)
11. Jasprit Bumrah (India)

8. Trent Boult
Is it just me, or is Woakes spelt wrong?

Or is it lightsabermetrics?

What would the ICC know???

Sabermetric analising is where it’s at.

 

[The Mad Hatter]

AB de Woakes ?

Virat Woakesy?

 

[hineyrulz]

AB de Woakes ?

Virat Woakesy?

Jaques Woakes.

 

[The Mad Hatter]

Jaques Woakes.

Donald Woakesman

Kapil Wok

Brian Woaka

Woakes'ing Matilda

Woakesing 9 to 5

Bangin' Balls - Woakes Up With A Monster