AFL, Aerial Pingpong and Cross-country netball

[Lockyer4President!]

In reality Jim Stynes is the only real 'star' to come from Ireland, and the Irish competitions are not professional, hence why they need other jobs. Its not as if a baker in Ireland has one day decided to come to Australia and play AFL.

Sounds like you're supporting my claim. Jim Stynes may be the 'only star' (I don't even know where to start...) but how many others are there who've come out to the other side of the world to play a totally foreign code with a totally foreign ball, rules, etc and still become full-time players in the fully professional AFL?

Is there any other pro sport in the world where that has happened as often as it has in the AFL?

You really have to question the amount of skill needed to play AFL at a professional level.

 

[Lockyer4President!]

Correct which makes it Australian. To say it's as British as Rugby Codes or that a Rugby Code is Australian is absurd. (Which has been said in this thread).

"Hurr durr it's British". I really don't get the xenophobia which is always on display when fumbleballers going into rant mode. It's funny how you never kick up a fuss when it's cricket or the Melbourne Cup or any other sport...

The fact is that AFL was developed by British subjects in British colonies as a mixture of British games (the rules used in the first few games were basically played under rugby laws at the time). You really need to stop taking every AFL press release as gospel.

 

[Mad Fish]

. In Queensland and New South Wales the game was largely repelled due to the explosion of rugby league in those states.

I remember reading somewhere that Queensland originally took up Australian rules (around the 1900s) but its close ties to New South Wales (in trade, culture etc) meant that League won out in the end.

Sounds like you're supporting my claim.
You really have to question the amount of skill needed to play AFL at a professional level.

Thats your opinion but its the last line that I have trouble with, it is ignorant to think that any professional sport requires little skill to play. In my opinion the Australian codes (League and Australian rules) are in the top most physically demanding games.

Plus its not like these players simply walked in and became successful, Stynes took years before he truly understood the game, you only have to look at the 1987 Prelim final when he cost Melbourne the game.

 

[maccattack]

I remember reading somewhere that Queensland originally took up Australian rules (around the 1900s) but its close ties to New South Wales (in trade, culture etc) meant that League won out in the end.

Maybe you stop reading Little Golden Books.

 

[Billy2Slater]

"Hurr durr it's British". I really don't get the xenophobia which is always on display when fumbleballers going into rant mode. It's funny how you never kick up a fuss when it's cricket or the Melbourne Cup or any other sport...

The fact is that AFL was developed by British subjects in British colonies as a mixture of British games (the rules used in the first few games were basically played under rugby laws at the time). You really need to stop taking every AFL press release as gospel.

Australian Football was made here and you're being delusional if you think it's a British game. Cricket etc is not a Australian sport it's one we've adopted so not sure what point you're making?

Also does it matter what an Australians background is? The only xenophbia here is your own, do you have a "f*ck off we're full" sticker on the back of your ute?

 

[Phil McGrawhan]

making?

Also does it matter what an Australians background is? The only xenophbia here is your own, do you have a "f*ck off we're full" sticker on the back of your ute?

Should make a sign ..erect it at the Victorian/NSW border.....stop you insular f**kwits heading north.

 

[footy_fumbler]

Victorian rules was/is based on the old English school rules of the day. It was introduced by Englishmen living in Victoria and has nothing to do with the games played by our original inhabitants. It evolved in one state of Australia known as Victoria and found its way into other states most notably South and Western Australia where it overtook the local forms of football due to the Victorians refusing to play by any rules other than their own. In Queensland and New South Wales the game was largely repelled due to the explosion of rugby league in those states.

Victorian rules shares the same football heritage as every other football code in the world and is no more unique than any other - not until they adopt the use of a square ball. It is not the result of a stroke of genius by ol' Bluey as he sat around a campfire waiting for his billy to boil while his cattledog licked the last remnants from the vegemite jar in the back of the Holden ute.

Modern day rugby league is as far removed from its original rugby form as victorian rules. With Australia being the dominant power in world rugby league for the most part it has evolved into its current form here in Australia. Therefore modern day rugby league is no less an Australian invention than Victorian or "Australian" rules.

All that to actually say nothing three quaters of what you wrote is lies, where is your link for this info or were you there in the 1800's?

Although Rugby is thought to have been played in Queensland as far back as 1876, the first interstate matches were played between Queensland and New South Wales in 1882.
The decision to form a rugby union association in Queensland was made on 2nd November, 1883 at a meeting at the Exchange Hotel in Brisbane (now known as the Stock Exchange).
Prior to this, Melbourne Rules (AFL) was the dominant football code with both codes being administered by the Queensland Football Association (QFA).
The new rugby body, named the Northern Rugby Union, came about due to dissatisfaction with the treatment rugby received from the QFA. Such was the interest and development of union in Queensland, the major GPS schools changed from Melbourne Rules to rugby, starting the premier school competition that still exists today.

can not post link as am less than 20 posts?? it's on yhe rugby qru site

 

[footy_fumbler]

Should make a sign ..erect it at the Victorian/NSW border.....stop you insular f**kwits heading north.

People in Albury class themselves as Victorians Mr McGrawhan, practicaly every NSW town along the Murray does so i do not know why they would erect a sign like you have stated.

 

[bulldog]

All that to actually say nothing three quaters of what you wrote is lies, where is your link for this info or were you there in the 1800's?

I was there, it's all true, plus there is this thing called recorded history that seems to indicate events that have taken place in the past, now post what you think are the falsities in the post or GTFO.

can not post link as am less than 20 posts?? it's on yhe rugby qru site

Links or STFU.

People in Albury class themselves as Victorians Mr McGrawhan, practicaly every NSW town along the Murray does so i do not know why they would erect a sign like you have stated.

Of course they do, I'm sure you have a mystery friend who confirmed this for you.

 

[Twizzle]

I was there, it's all true, plus there is this thing called recorded history that seems to indicate events that have taken place in the past, now post what you think are the falsities in the post or GTFO.

Links or STFU.

Of course they do, I'm sure you have a mystery friend who confirmed this for you.

you also need to source your allegations

 

[footy_fumbler]

I was there, it's all true, plus there is this thing called recorded history that seems to indicate events that have taken place in the past, now post what you think are the falsities in the post or GTFO.


Links or STFU.

Of course they do, I'm sure you have a mystery friend who confirmed this for you.

Umm there is a whole Aussie Rules League called the Ovens and Murray which is based in Albury not Wodonga, how many Leaguies teams are in albury? 1 yes 1 no league, why not leaguies is so great.

You have just proved my point child, no proof, check your own CRL site and see how many clubs are along the border.

 

[bulldog]

You have just proved my point child, no proof, check your own CRL site and see how many clubs are along the border.

So the number of teams means that all residents of towns along the Murray consider themselves Victorians? Interesting.:?

you also need to source your allegations

What allegations are these? I asked what the lies in the quoted post were? Unless you're talking about me being there in the 1800's, you'll just have to take my word for it.

 

[footy_fumbler]

So the number of teams means that all residents of towns along the Murray consider themselves Victorians? Interesting.:?



What allegations are these? I asked what the lies in the quoted post were? Unless you're talking about me being there in the 1800's, you'll just have to take my word for it.

That's why the NRLL is on the way down, cos they'll take your word for it.

Interestingly enough your nick explains everything for your high and mighty stance on things. The world is not a dogs one is it, it's always ruff.

 

[bulldog]

WTF are you on about fumbler? I asked for some elaboration on exactly what you consider lies and you go into ramble mode, don't bother answering my questions dude cause I won't bother reading, you're an idiot and life is too short.

 

[footy_fumbler]

Are you ok, you need some tissues name caller, the mentality of some of the NRLL supporters is short of sane

 

[ParraEelsNRL]

Because it's a shithouse game.

 

[Tonearm Terrorwrist]

I've seen eagles4ever's formatting before :lol:

 

[Caesar]

It's just provincialism. Australian football is bigger/more popular so league fans are more inclined to attack AFL than vice versa. AFL and soccer have a similar relationship, to an extent.

Of course that's not to say it's all one direction. There is plenty of sniping by AFL fans at rugby league, and soccer fans at AFL. But it does tend to trend towards smaller attacking bigger.

 

[Twizzle]

bigger ?

wouldn't mind seeing the numbers on what is the so called bigger of the two when you consider AFL barely gets a mention outside of Australia

 

[Caesar]

Eh, northern England/PNG and the bits and pieces of league elsewhere around the world are a bit irrelevant to the debate because it's more about perception than raw numbers. Perception-wise, and rightly or wrongly, league is Australian football's little brother.

I mean technically, if you add up the numbers rugby union is probably bigger than both - but neither code has much animosity towards it because perception-wise they're not serious competitors.