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annual report 2014

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Why do you think the NRL wants to control as many clubs as possible. Totalitarian regimes can't allow any means of serious opposition to have the power to overthrow them.
 

Perth Red

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Afl out of a $458mill revenue gave clubs $216mill. That's $232mill they keep from the clubs to run the fame.
NRL out of a $344.9 Revenue gave clubs $132.8 million. That's $212.1 mill they keep from clubs to run the game.
Now presuming we want the same level of investment in marketing, infrastructure etc etc as AFL it would seem club payments are not out if kilter in relation to revenue.

If you just wanted to base the decision on % of revenue then nrl clubs are underfunded by around $30mill in total compared to afl however nrl has expenses afl doesn't as is trying to put money away.
 
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BuffaloRules

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Afl out of a $458mill revenue gave clubs $216mill. That's $232mill they keep from the clubs to run the fame.
NRL out of a $344.9 Revenue gave clubs $132.8 million. That's $212.1 mill they keep from clubs to run the game.
Now presuming we want the same level of investment in marketing, infrastructure etc etc as AFL it would seem club payments are not out if kilter in relation to revenue.

If you just wanted to base the decision on % of revenue then nrl clubs are underfunded by around $30mill in total compared to afl however nrl has expenses afl doesn't as is trying to put money away.

That's great.

So the clubs will say that when the revenue goes to $500 million in 2018,they can have $285 mil and the other $215 mil can run the game.
 

Perth Red

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IF the revenue gets to $500mill I would expect the players, clubs and code generally to benefit from that increase through getting more money.
 

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Afl out of a $458mill revenue gave clubs $216mill. That's $232mill they keep from the clubs to run the fame.
NRL out of a $344.9 Revenue gave clubs $132.8 million. That's $212.1 mill they keep from clubs to run the game.
Now presuming we want the same level of investment in marketing, infrastructure etc etc as AFL it would seem club payments are not out if kilter in relation to revenue.

If you just wanted to base the decision on % of revenue then nrl clubs are underfunded by around $30mill in total compared to afl however nrl has expenses afl doesn't as is trying to put money away.

Doesn't the AFL also have a shared revenue model with poor clubs getting greater grants? Can you imagine if NRL attempted that, that would really give them something to bitch about!
 

kbw

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My point was why does the burden fall on me to prove your assumption wrong instead of you proving mine wrong.

A lot of the stuff that has been implemented by the NRL over the last few years isnt things that are readily recognisable, but are nevertheless needed for a modern professional sporting organisation. Areas such as club governance has been made a big focus by the NRL but you wont necessarily feel its immediate impact, so to Government lobbying, making the game more inclusive with introduction of touch & greater emphasis on womens rugby league, have all been introduced over a short amount of time because it had been previously neglected. If you look at where the NRL was a lot of structural things were missing and implementing them have been a priority. Place an additional 200m revenue into the old NRL administration and I don't think they would have known what to do with it.

A lot of the issues you have described are, in the schemes of things, fairly superficial, most of them have been issues in the game for decades. The NRL are in no way perfect and they will always make mistakes, but there is a lot behind the scenes that they are trying to build that doesn't get the headlines. I give them a pass mark so far and believe this year is probably the litmus test, with scheduling, interchange, transfer rules, tv rights, pathways and expansion all on the agenda it is a year where they should be making decisions now they have the structure in place to implement them.


All NRL spin, and all talk. There is no substance to the NRL PR machines claims.
When push comes to shove, in reality and in action, the NRL do not care about junior RL they do not care about crowds. They care about revenue and wasting money without accountability.

They are killing what used to be RL by pandering to the greatest revenue generators, the media and happily ignore what the game is about, the fans and park footy.

Then they leave the NRL staff that actually do the work floundering with small budgets
 

Indelible

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All NRL spin, and all talk. There is no substance to the NRL PR machines claims.
When push comes to shove, in reality and in action, the NRL do not care about junior RL they do not care about crowds. They care about revenue and wasting money without accountability.

They are killing what used to be RL by pandering to the greatest revenue generators, the media and happily ignore what the game is about, the fans and park footy.

Then they leave the NRL staff that actually do the work floundering with small budgets

Utter crap
 

Perth Red

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All NRL spin, and all talk. There is no substance to the NRL PR machines claims.
When push comes to shove, in reality and in action, the NRL do not care about junior RL they do not care about crowds. They care about revenue and wasting money without accountability.

They are killing what used to be RL by pandering to the greatest revenue generators, the media and happily ignore what the game is about, the fans and park footy.

Then they leave the NRL staff that actually do the work floundering with small budgets

Did you read the annual report and see where they are spending money?
I think affiliated States, school and Jnr RL, marketing and nrl clubs are still underfunded but we are playing catch up in getting our back of house in order so I can live with it until 2018. By then they had better of got it sorted, expanded the game at all levels and be filling stadiums.
 

Diesel

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All NRL spin, and all talk. There is no substance to the NRL PR machines claims.
When push comes to shove, in reality and in action, the NRL do not care about junior RL they do not care about crowds. They care about revenue and wasting money without accountability.

They are killing what used to be RL by pandering to the greatest revenue generators, the media and happily ignore what the game is about, the fans and park footy.

Then they leave the NRL staff that actually do the work floundering with small budgets

Have another drink Buzz
 

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All NRL spin, and all talk. There is no substance to the NRL PR machines claims.
When push comes to shove, in reality and in action, the NRL do not care about junior RL they do not care about crowds. They care about revenue and wasting money without accountability.

They are killing what used to be RL by pandering to the greatest revenue generators, the media and happily ignore what the game is about, the fans and park footy.

Then they leave the NRL staff that actually do the work floundering with small budgets

How is there no accountability?

None of what you assert would be any better if the clubs get their way, it would be much worse in fact.
 

kbw

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The lack of accountability is one of the main issues the clubs have , the NRL is spending so much money (that isn't on the areas that need it) and they are not telling anyone what its being spent on or even that its being spent, eg the lies about how much cash the NRL has in its coffers.

I do agree that it should not be run by the clubs, but the NRL needs to be run by people that have a clue and want to run it to benefit the entire game, not just first grade and the administrators themselves.

Not hard evidence but anecdotal, and very high management type from the NRL was asked by a local junior league official about strategies to keep kids in RL when they move to an age group and AFL plays on the same day. Basically the NRL guy said, "who cares let them go and play AFL"
 

cleary89

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Our school just got new jerseys for the first time in about 15 years. 1/3 paid for by nrl, 1/3 by the bulldogs and 1/3 by us.

Every kid in years 3-6 (all 340 of them) got a steeden footy for free after 3 development officers ran a free 5 week program. 3 years ago our school football side had 3 boys that play on the weekend. This year I'm turning away year 5's who play on the weekend.
 

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