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shiznit

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Mate you started off well here. First few paragraphs are spot on. But then...oh dear


You say that Anderson has no chance what so ever, but then in the same breath you say that Hendo could beat jones. Then Maybe Gustafson, or f***ing Davis.

Dude, seriously lol. Simply lol.

dude... do you know anything about combat sports?? :lol:

if you actually did... you would understand what im saying...

im not saying that Hendo is better than Anderson... Anderson is one of the greatest... but IMO its just his style gives him a better chance against Anderson.

Hendo is a world class wrestler... with a massive right hand and a tried and tested chin...

Gustafason could be a chance because of his size... he negates JJ's biggest asset... which is his reach. same with Davis.

its an easy concept to grasp....

Anderson Silva has no wrestling at all... so would be forced to strike with a dude with an 5-10 inch reach advantage.

good luck with that.... :lol:

And I dont think that somebody is going to stand in the pocket and "bang" with Jones. He has the best clinch at LHW, his takedowns/foot sweeps from the clinch have hardly been stopped by a single opponent yet. Let alone the fact that when the fight is in the pocket, it is usually from his doing, as in he is moving forward to attack from that position.

how the hell do you know if he's got the best chin at LHW??? he's been hit a couple of times by Rashad... and by Machida... how is that the best chin in LHW?? Phil Davis was hit by far worse from Rashad and wasn't seriously hurt...

best chin in the LHW division?? :lol:

it goes to show how much of a noob you are.... :lol:

just off the top of my head i reckon Stephan Bonnar has a better chin than Jones...

And you seem to think Jones doesnt have a great amount of power, he's absolutely blasted and dropped pretty much every opponent he's faced. WTF are you going on about?

:lol:

STFU noob...

who has JJ knocked out clean???

Brandon Vera maybe??

he's had some spectacular moments... but he's never knocked out anyone clean...

GET THE f**k OUTTA HERE SON!!
 

shiznit

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anyway... enough of schooling the genius....

great to hear Hector Lombard has signed with the UFC... first fight looking like against Brian Stann... which is a tough test for Lombard... Stann can bang...
 

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Jones may have a 5-10 inch reach advantage but how much importance would you place on Anderson's clear technique advantage.

Personally I think jones is just a little to big for Anderson and would wanna take it straight to the ground. He'd be silly to stand with Anderson and strike, the massive advantage in technique would be took much IMO.

Bones is gonna crush Hendo as well. Again size and quickness will be too much. Hendo knows how to bring it but.
 

Jack_Napier

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anyway... enough of schooling the genius....

great to hear Hector Lombard has signed with the UFC... first fight looking like against Brian Stann... which is a tough test for Lombard... Stann can bang...

Bout time for hector. You just know Stann probably asked for this fight. Tough dude, and tough intro for hector. Kinda like pettis debut in Ufc.
 

shiznit

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Jones may have a 5-10 inch reach advantage but how much importance would you place on Anderson's clear technique advantage.

the size and reach would be far too much for Anderson.... and there's no shame in that... Anderson is an amazing fighter... just breathtaking...

but we are talking about Anderson Silva fighting a guy who can wrestle just as good as Chael Sonnen... but with a massive reach advantage and who is on another planet as far as striking goes...

Personally I think jones is just a little to big for Anderson and would wanna take it straight to the ground. He'd be silly to stand with Anderson and strike, the massive advantage in technique would be took much IMO.

that's the whole point though.... Jones can do what he likes... he has the reach to keep him out of trouble... and if he wants to he can taker him down... and his elbows... those things are just deadly.

Bones is gonna crush Hendo as well. Again size and quickness will be too much. Hendo knows how to bring it but.

yeah more than likely JJ will destroy Hendo... but if Hendo nails him with his right hand...
 

Collateral

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JJB will submit or decision Hendo. Hendo has a great chin and power with good wrestling, but has struggled over the distance endurance-wise and against good level BJJ.

I actually think Silva beats JJB standing up but I dont think he will be able to keep it there. Not just that bout I doubt Jacksons will try set up a striking gameplan against one of the best strikers in MMA. JJB to take him down and make Chael's GnP look like a pillow fight. Only worry is a submission or getting KO'ed before he can take Silva down...I expect Silva's TD Defence to be on a good level after the Sonnen fight though.

As for Jones' reach advantage over Silva....ask Struve how his reach helped him against a good striker...I still dont think JJB's chin has been properly tested either. He got wobbled by Machida and Silva is a bigger badder version of him.

I'd like to see Shogun fight JJB again without being only at 50%...but I still dont thin he wins.

Junior Dos Santos to be the first person to beat JJB if he moves up to Heavyweight.

I hate JJB.
 
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shiznit

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argy-bargy

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how the hell do you know if he's got the best chin at LHW??? he's been hit a couple of times by Rashad... and by Machida... how is that the best chin in LHW?? Phil Davis was hit by far worse from Rashad and wasn't seriously hurt...

best chin in the LHW division?? :lol:

it goes to show how much of a noob you are.... :lol:

just off the top of my head i reckon Stephan Bonnar has a better chin than Jones...

Hey genius! learn to read. I said CLINCH, not chin. durrrr!
 

argy-bargy

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dude... do you know anything about combat sports?? :lol:

if you actually did... you would understand what im saying...

im not saying that Hendo is better than Anderson... Anderson is one of the greatest... but IMO its just his style gives him a better chance against Anderson.

Hendo is a world class wrestler... with a massive right hand and a tried and tested chin...

Gustafason could be a chance because of his size... he negates JJ's biggest asset... which is his reach. same with Davis.

its an easy concept to grasp....

Anderson Silva has no wrestling at all... so would be forced to strike with a dude with an 5-10 inch reach advantage.

good luck with that.... :lol:


You call me a noob, but you still think Henderson could offer more than Anderson? HAHAHAHAH.

Look dopey, Anderson is the greatest UFC fighter EVER. And to think that he did this with “no wrestling at all”, well damn, that must mean his striking is pretty damn good they hey?

Andersons right hand is a way better weapon than Hendersons has ever been. It is fast, comes from further away, and is f**king accurate. Henersons is powerful, but is slow and telegraphed. Henderson is not going to take down and control Jones, as all his takedowns come from the clinch (did you read that correctly this time???). Jones clinch >>>> Hendersons.

Here is why Anderson has a way better chance than Henderson. He is comfortable fighting from the outside, and is the best counter puncher in the game. So far, the only weakness Jones has shown is from a few counter punch right hands. Sure henderson has a great right hand, but he lands them when he is coming forward. Anderson has a much better chance and landing punches and hurting Jones, full stop.


*Edited for maths fail*
 

shiznit

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You call me a noob, but you still think Henderson could offer more than Anderson? HAHAHAHAH.

Look dopey, Anderson is the greatest UFC fighter EVER. And to think that he did this with “no wrestling at all”, well damn, that must mean his striking is pretty damn good they hey?

im not arguing Anderson's place in the world... and im certainly not saying that Hendo is better than Anderson... that would be silly...

but i dismiss Anderson's chances because THERE IS NO WAY HE WILL TAKE A FIGHT WITH JJ....

Anderson has been brilliant from the outside... but he has always had the advantage of having the superior reach.

in essence Anderson Silva now has to fight on the inside... when have you EVER seen Anderson fight from the inside??

Does he have the chin to get inside of JJ's reach and hang with him??

and then what if he hurts JJ?? does have have the TDD to stop Jones from taking him down??

but this is all hypothetical... there is no way on planet earth Anderson will step into the octagon with Jon Jones... this is the guy who was telling everyone who would listen that he would storm the LHW division if Machida wasn't the champion... then Shogun KO's his BFF and all of a sudden he wants to focus on MW.

I give Hendo a better chance than Anderson mostly because Anderson wont take the fight... hes not an idiot.

even Hendo's chances are low at best.... Anderson Silva doesn't take those types of fights...

Andersons right hand is a way better weapon than Hendersons has ever been. It is fast, comes from further away, and is f**king accurate. Henersons is powerful, but is slow and telegraphed. Henderson is not going to take down and control Jones, as all his takedowns come from the clinch (did you read that correctly this time???). Jones clinch >>>> Hendersons.

the H-Bomb is the biggest weapon in the business... im not doubting that Anderson is accurate... but if Hendo hits you... your out cold.

Here is why Anderson has a way better chance than Henderson. He is comfortable fighting from the outside, and is the best counter puncher in the game. So far, the only weakness Jones has shown is from a few counter punch right hands. Sure henderson has a great right hand, but he lands them when he is coming forward. Anderson has a much better chance and landing punches and hurting Jones, full stop.


*Edited for maths fail*

in reality.... Hendo will fight JJ next... and Anderson Silva will stay in MW... where he belongs..

Anderson is ONE of the greatest... but i want to see how he comes through his defense against Sonnen...

He needs to show everyone that the first fight was an aberration... because you cant claim to be the greatest in the UFC and have holes in your game that big...
 
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argy-bargy

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^^^

You are correct mate, much bigger chance of Silva/GSP than Silva/Jones. I really hope we get to see one of these true superfights before he retires.

Hypothetical match ups are one of the things that are great about combat sports, love the passion it brings out! haha
 

shiznit

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i cant see either superfight at the moment...

for a superfight to happen there needs to be one dude who takes the massive risk... i dont see GSP too keen on going up to MW... and Anderson wont want to come down to a catch weight... just to fight a LnP specialist.

you need a BJ Penn in the mix.... a dude who doesn't give a f**k... dude went up to LHW on a burger king diet to scrap machida... :lol:
 

jc155776

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148 looks f**king epic.

Really looking forward to watching Ferguson go against Johnson this weekend as well.

In fact I think this Fox card is better than the 145 card overall.
 

WYD

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^^^

You are correct mate, much bigger chance of Silva/GSP than Silva/Jones. I really hope we get to see one of these true superfights before he retires.

Hypothetical match ups are one of the things that are great about combat sports, love the passion it brings out! haha
That's the real kicker, and why I'm so high on Bones.

GSP against Silva wouldn't be anywhere near the underdog that Silva against Jones would be.
 

shiznit

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GSP vs Silva would be the biggest dud in MMA history IMO...

whats Anderson's biggest hole?? his wrestling....

what is GSP's favorite tactic?? lay and pray....

Anderson managed to come back against Sonnen very late in the 5th round...

but GSP... that dude can keep a guy like BJ Penn pinned down... and the prodigy's BJJ is on a different planet to Anderson's...
 

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Yep, I've never been one to back the GSP Vs Silva fight.

I would like to see Jones Vs Silva. But Jones is a smart fighter and will probably wrestle and destroy Silva on the ground.

But a pure striking battle between them could be epic.
 
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