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Bennett announcement today: quitting Knights

GT0007

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Willow
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Re: Bennett announcement today: quitting Knights
LOL. Well I tried to be nice. Please, keep telling me what I think.

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Originally Posted by Mrs Mary
you rarely have anything positive to say.

OK chuckles.

Let's recap...

You said: Quote:
Originally Posted by GT0007
Blacklock was top try scorer in the NRL 3 years in a row in the years he played with Mcgregor
Willow: This is factually wrong. You don't even know when they played together.

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Originally Posted by GT0007
and the first player ever to score more than 20 tries 4yrs in a row
Willow: Which had very little to do with McGregor.

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Originally Posted by GT0007
and you're using that to have a go at Mcgregor.....seriously?
Willow: No, I wasn't seriously having a go at McGregor. That's just your keyboard brain going out of its way to get offended.

You also said: Quote:
Originally Posted by GT0007
Mary also played 14 games for the blues......
Willow: Which is irrelevant.

And: Quote:
Originally Posted by GT0007
are there any supporters left in this forum?
Willow: Perhaps the RL equivalent of breaking Godwin's Law.

But GT, we should stop all this a-fussing and a-fighting.... Let me buy you a Reschs tomorrow. Will you be at the game?

Firstly I do apologize as I had multiple windows open a couple of those comments were intended for another post & weren't to be directed at you so I will retract the statement that "you rarely have anything positive to say" and "are there any supporters left in this forum". Your reference to Godwins Law is duely noted. In my defense I seriously have to question a few in here that are knocking the team and coach when they are winning. Questioning Mary's ability as a coach because it doesn't fall in line with their way of thinking is absurd when he is winning games. When we lose 3 in a row then revisit it. They'll most likely have my support as well.

I'm well aware of when Mary played with Tinga 1999-2001 and that Mary didnt play as you stated in 2000. Certainly he was in his twilight years and as such probably did well to score 13 tries from 34 games. Not brilliant but that strike would have him sitting as 5th as try scorer in our current squad this year.

As for Tinga, I never said once that he owed Mary anything but I maintain Marys presence didnt prevent Tinga from scoring tries, sure people take the wrong options at times and sometimes that is a matter of opinion. So lets look at a little closer.

1999 Mary played 17 games and Tinga's strike rate was 100%
2000 No Mary Tinga's strike rate was 96.15%
2001 Mary played 17 games and Tinga's strike rate was 96.42%

While Mary was playing Tinga's try scoring strike rate was actually marginally higher so as I stated he did manage to score tries with Mcgregor on the field. There's no basis for your statement that Tinga would've scored more without Mcgregor as in 2000 he didn't. It's really just an opinion

Originally Posted by Willow
lol. Of course. I must be slipping.

For mine, McGregor's greatest legacy was his amazing ability turn his winger into the invisible man. I lost count of the amount of times Tingha was left unmarked and wanting, while jowls ran infield towards the defence.


For me that sounds very much like you're having a go at Mcgregor and is a bit harsh when he was our 1st Captain and we made the GF, he also played 14 Origin games which is relevant when you questioned his legacy. I refute also that those days were long over as you stated as he played SOO in 1998. You have since explained that you were referring only to the end of his career.

I agree 1000% about all the fussing and fighting lol, it's not a constructive way to spend our time and sometimes we all forget we are on the same side. I live on the Central Coast and work weekends so don't get to many games but would be happy to have a Tooheys with you when I can make it.......Godzilla's shout!
 
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Willow

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Yes, it's the internet's fault. lol.

Well, whatever... McGregor sucked. And you're serious.

So turn up the volume on the funny stuff... before you jumped in with the sad sack routine, I was talking to gregstar, re "jowls". There's your hint.

Mrs Mary said:
he was our 1st Captain
Ah, more divisive bullshit.
 

GT0007

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Yes, it's the internet's fault. lol.

Well, whatever... McGregor sucked. And you're serious.

So turn up the volume on the funny stuff... before you jumped in with the sad sack routine, I was talking to gregstar, re "jowls". There's your hint.

Ah, more divisive bullshit.

Having a Sunday on the juice mate? I didn't blame the Internet lol I was at fault and apologized and retracted what was meant to be on another post. Jowls, Chinless all funny stuff if your 5. "Mcgregor sucked" hahahaha. Settle down cowboy lol
 

GaryW

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I hope he does go back to the Bronco's, its where he should retire and be close to his family. I would like to see Mary get the job, he's done a great job so far!
 

Willow

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Wow, you really can't take a joke. You must be a real hit at parties.

Having a Sunday on the juice mate?
No. And so what if I was? I picked you as a wowser.

I note that you have sided with Sean O'Connor in ignoring our heritage. For you both...

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SAINTS' FIRST PREMIERSHIP MATCH
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Saturday, April 23, 1921. Venue: Sydney Sports Ground. Kickoff: 3:15pm
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[SIZE=-1]Saints' first match was coincidentally scheduled for 'St George's Day', 1921. Their opponents were Glebe, captained by William 'Binghi' Benson who went on to play for Saints in 1927 and featured the mighty Frank 'Chunky' Burge who would later captain-coach St George.
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More: http://jubileeavenue.com.au/history/1921-1925.php
 

Twenty10

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Ok, so Doust has had the wool pulled over his eyes again.

I must say, Im not sure where the club goes now.
 

Gomarchin

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Can we please appoint an experienced first grade coach NOT another rookie. That experiment hasn't worked. I wonder if Doust had a planB? If its Mary then we will remain a bottom 8 team for another 3 years...
 

Willow

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Hopefully not the McGregor route. What are his coaching credentials again ?
A handful of first grade games, has the backing of some bloke called Sean O'Connor. Proclaimed as super coach by the aforementioned, and some people take this as gospel.
 
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Bennett a bronco
FYI, yesterday's SMH:

Wayne Bennett to return in Brisbane Broncos shake-up

Roy Masters

Wayne Bennett phoned Lachlan Murdoch on Sunday, convincing the News Corporation boss he could turn around the struggling Broncos, paving the way for him to be announced as head coach of the Brisbane team as early as Monday.

The approval of Murdoch was all that was required for Bennett to return as coach of the Broncos in 2015, with the power to choose his own staff, following a series of secret meetings of the board of the Brisbane club. The directors reached a near unanimous view that the appointment of the seven-time premiership-winning coach is necessary to restore team mojo in a city the Broncos once dominated. Club directors have met without the knowledge of chief executive Paul White, who is a strong supporter of the incumbent coach, Anthony Griffin.

Bennett, after six years away from his family, is keen to return to Brisbane. The move required the agreement of News, which owns 67 per cent of the shares of the Broncos. Chairman Dennis Watt had the responsibility of seeking the approval of Murdoch, a long-term supporter of the club but Bennett’s phone call clinched the appointment. The Broncos directors believe Bennett can restore team culture, which they think has deteriorated since the 64-year-old left to coach St George Illawarra in 2009.

Three key Broncos players were sacked from Saturday’s match against the Warriors for a midweek, late-night drinking binge. The Broncos defeated the Warriors 28-22, ending a three-game losing streak. The club directors believe Griffin has been given all he has asked for during his three-year term yet the team has finished eighth and 12th the past two seasons. White almost snared Bennett in 2011 when he told the Dragons he was leaving.

Clandestine meetings in the carpark of a supermarket near Sydney Airport between Bennett and White almost reached agreement on a return to the club, where he was the foundation coach. White gained the approval of News to pay Bennett $900,000, a 50 per cent increase on the $600,000 he was paid in his final year at the Broncos three years earlier.

White found another $50,000 to produce a $950,000 offer Bennett described as ‘‘disrespectful,’’ although he disputes saying this. Nor would White agree to all the players and staff Bennett sought to bring to the club. Bennett also had concerns about club powerbrokers he could not trust and has a long-term antagonism towards News which apparently dissipated over the weekend.
The incumbent: Broncos coach Anthony Griffin has the support of chief executive Paul White.

The incumbent: Broncos coach Anthony Griffin has the support of chief executive Paul White.

Now, his return is less about money and more about control and a return to his home town. The existing coaching staff and White will be replaced by Bennett appointees in a recreation of the ‘‘Wayne’s World’’ environment which produced six premierships. It is anticipated Bennett will coach the Broncos 2015-2016 and maybe 2017 and Kevin Walters, his assistant at Newcastle, would then take control, with Bennett moving to director of coaching. Ironically, Walters was sacked as Bennett’s assistant in Brisbane a decade ago. He is desperate to gain a top coaching post after being short-listed by Wests Tigers and the Cowboys only for the positions to go to Michael Potter and Paul Green respectively.

It has been speculated in Brisbane that Bennett would install his son-in-law, Ben Ikin, as club CEO, although this was not raised with the board. Bennett doesn’t attend board meetings. He seeks a close relationship with the club CEO, as he had with St George Illawarra’s Peter Doust, and expects the pair of them to run the club.

Ikin, formerly director of commercial services at the Titans, has forged a successful career in the media and is a director of the Cowboys. Bennett would also hope another money tree sprouts in Brisbane to provide third-party sponsorships for players.
Potential chief executive: It is speculated that Wayne Bennett might install his son-in-law, Ben Ikin, as CEO of the Broncos.

Potential chief executive: It is speculated that Wayne Bennett might install his son-in-law, Ben Ikin, as CEO of the Broncos. Photo: Harrison Saragossi

His long-term benefactor in Brisbane was mining magnate Ken Talbot, who was killed in a plane crash in the Congo in 2010, 10 weeks before he was to face court on corruption charges. The NRL and Australian Securities and Investments Commission are investigating a $300,000 payment from the Broncos Leagues Club, believed to have been used to pay players for third- party deals which fell through.

The Broncos board was scheduled to meet on Tuesday, with Bennett previously declaring he would not negotiate with a club which has a coach. It is understood Griffin was told on Sunday he would not be fulfilling next season’s final year of his contract, clearing the way for a formal declaration on Bennett as early as Monday. Brisbane did not respond to a request for comment.
 

Minh

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It seems like in his heart he always wanted to return to the Broncos and you can't blame him with his family there but it sucks for us.
 

gregstar

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The drongos will face the same problem in 3 years that we would.

although it is likely that the 3 years will be successful - there will still be vacuum created when he finishes, which was the only downside to him returning here.

barba must be nervous.
 

Willow

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To be fair, Doust was probably trying to sign Bennett. But other forces were at play re signing McGregor. O'Connor going to the media turned the conspiracy theory into something more plausible.

I suspect there's still a couple of turns of the wheel to go. We'll see how it plays out.
 

The Enforcer

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So much for Bennett not talking to a club that already has a coach ??? I'd give Henry a go, however the Titans might give him a promotion or will they see him as being a failure just like Cartwright ?
 

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