Brisbane Tigers make their bid to be 18th team

[Wb1234]

I'd like to know what will happen if Albo is canned by Labor before a deal with the NRL is finalised.

The png thing is a long standing labor policy

shorten had it as a policy before he lost the unloseable election

Dutton is no chance of being elected but maybe some of the former liberal pm would be more popular

if rates keep going up and property crashes the next election will be interesting. It’s not that far away

 

[Canard]

Who is Harold Halt?

 

[Perth Red]

Ch9 figures are the only ones we have available. They aren't favourable to Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth.

What you're doing is as stupid as saying Harold Halt might be alive because his body might be found. It's possible, but highly improbable.

You keep going on about Foxtel being more important than Ch9 because they provide more money and air all games, yet fail to address the elephant standing in the room:

If Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth are so important to Foxtel, why did News Ltd shut down the Reds and Rams?

News Ltd decided it was better to have zero representation in Australia's fourth and fifth largest metro markets when they acquired a 50% stake in the game. Now you're arguing Foxtel values the potential of an NRL club in all three markets, despite the fact they killed two to carve out a niche in Melbourne. It has to be emphasised that News Ltd did this when they didn't have the AwFuL broadcast rights. They probably wouldn't have bothered with a Melbourne team if they had the broadcast rights for AwFuL in 1998.



You're using the lack of data on Foxtel's end to "prove" something that cannot be verified. That ain't an argument. It's a nonsequitur.

You could argue that we don't have any definitive way of knowing the precise value of Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth to Foxtel. We do know that News Ltd poured a lot of resources into the Storm while they had a 50% stake in the game. That would suggest they saw potential in the market. However, if we use that to argue Melbourne is a valuable market for the NRL deal, then Adelaide and Perth must be worthless because they chose to scrap them. News Ltd showed no interest in expanding to Adelaide and Perth after 2000, despite having a 50% stake in the game.



Do you even know what you're trying to argue?

I don't think you do.

Its pretty dumb to use a short sighted decision 26 years ago when STV was in its infancy, portable device streaming was a scifi fiction and Australia was a very different population for what may be considered today. News ltd were carrying a number clubs in 1997, they had been hemorrhaging money on a war and wanted to cut some of their losses. The clubs they owned where easy targets for them.

Doesnt mean they didnt have value or werent valued. You should count yourself lucky Cowboys werent cut at same time. By your logic there would have been no value in Brisbane2 or Gold Coast either given they both got cut as well, yet here we are.

 

[Maximus]

Ch9 figures are the only ones we have available. They aren't favourable to Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth.

Cool, so when you say that they provide no value to broadcasters, you mean broadcaster. The single one you've got info for.

What you're doing is as stupid as saying Harold Halt might be alive because his body might be found. It's possible, but highly improbable.

Actually I haven't done anything other than explain to you that you don't have the evidence to support your claim, and then laugh at your dumbarse "hypothetical".

You keep going on about Foxtel being more important than Ch9 because they provide more money and air all games, yet fail to address the elephant standing in the room:

If Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth are so important to Foxtel, why did News Ltd shut down the Reds and Rams?

Oh good, we are back to 1998, when I hear streaming was huge.

Tell me, how many people were watching games on Foxtel 25 years ago.

You're using the lack of data on Foxtel's end to "prove" something that cannot be verified. That ain't an argument. It's a nonsequitur.

I wasn't "proving" anything. You were using ch9 numbers as proof for Foxtel.

Also, you've used non sequitur in so many incorrect situations, that I'm not even sure you know what it means.

Do you even know what you're trying to argue?

I don't think you do.

I do. That you were using irrelevant numbers to make claims you couldn't support. I already proved that one.

 

[Maximus]

The png thing is a long standing labor policy

shorten had it as a policy before he lost the unloseable election

Dutton is no chance of being elected but maybe some of the former liberal pm would be more popular

if rates keep going up and property crashes the next election will be interesting. It’s not that far away

He's just using his own reddit posts as sources now.

 

[Wb1234]

Ch9 figures are the only ones we have available. They aren't favourable to Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth.

What you're doing is as stupid as saying Harold Halt might be alive because his body might be found. It's possible, but highly improbable.

You keep going on about Foxtel being more important than Ch9 because they provide more money and air all games, yet fail to address the elephant standing in the room:

If Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth are so important to Foxtel, why did News Ltd shut down the Reds and Rams?

News Ltd decided it was better to have zero representation in Australia's fourth and fifth largest metro markets when they acquired a 50% stake in the game. Now you're arguing Foxtel values the potential of an NRL club in all three markets, despite the fact they killed two to carve out a niche in Melbourne. It has to be emphasised that News Ltd did this when they didn't have the AwFuL broadcast rights. They probably wouldn't have bothered with a Melbourne team if they had the broadcast rights for AwFuL in 1998.



You're using the lack of data on Foxtel's end to "prove" something that cannot be verified. That ain't an argument. It's a nonsequitur.

You could argue that we don't have any definitive way of knowing the precise value of Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth to Foxtel. We do know that News Ltd poured a lot of resources into the Storm while they had a 50% stake in the game. That would suggest they saw potential in the market. However, if we use that to argue Melbourne is a valuable market for the NRL deal, then Adelaide and Perth must be worthless because they chose to scrap them. News Ltd showed no interest in expanding to Adelaide and Perth after 2000, despite having a 50% stake in the game.



Do you even know what you're trying to argue?

I don't think you do.

Your making a great effort but maxipad can barely rub two brain cells together I doubt he understands your points

 

[Maximus]

Your making a great effort but maxipad can barely rub two brain cells together I doubt he understands your points

How would you know, you've got me on ignore.

By the way, when talking about brain cells, you probably should understand the difference between your and you're.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

The png thing is a long standing labor policy

shorten had it as a policy before he lost the unloseable election

Dutton is no chance of being elected but maybe some of the former liberal pm would be more popular

if rates keep going up and property crashes the next election will be interesting. It’s not that far away

I wouldn't be surprised if Labor become a one-term government. Albo has alienated so many voters.

The next 12 months will be interesting.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Its pretty dumb to use a short sighted decision 26 years ago when STV was in its infancy, portable device streaming was a scifi fiction and Australia was a very different population for what may be considered today. News ltd were carrying a number clubs in 1997, they had been hemorrhaging money on a war and wanted to cut some of their losses. The clubs they owned where easy targets for them.

Doesnt mean they didnt have value or werent valued. You should count yourself lucky Cowboys werent cut at same time. By your logic there would have been no value in Brisbane2 or Gold Coast either given they both got cut as well, yet here we are.

Chargers and Crushers were cut because News Ltd were looking after the Broncos. Their selfishness really hurt the game in SEQ and bit the Broncos on the arse.

Ribot never wanted a second team when he was with the Broncos, Super League and Storm.

Cowboys were kept around because they had one of the largest fanbases in the league and generated strong corporate support. Reds were axed because they had no fans and a terrible business model.

Why are you and Maxipad pretending that internet streaming makes teams in Adelaide and Perth more valuable now than they were 26 years ago?

A Perth-based NRL club isn't going to generate a huge uptake in Kayo customers from that market. According to you and Maxipad, everyone who watches RL in Perth already has Kayo.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Cool, so when you say that they provide no value to broadcasters, you mean broadcaster. The single one you've got info for.

If they provide value to Foxtel then News Ltd wouldn't have cut them in the 1990s.

Cutting the Crushers and Chargers caused more harm. That mistake has been rectified.

Actually I haven't done anything other than explain to you that you don't have the evidence to support your claim, and then laugh at your dumbarse "hypothetical".

There are families struggling to put food on the table and pay their electricity bill. It's stupid to think everyone can afford Kayo and a ticketed season membership.

Oh good, we are back to 1998, when I hear streaming was huge.

What relevance does streaming have with Perth?

Unless you can prove that a Perth-based team will lead to an increase in Western Australians subscribing to Kayo then it's just a red herring.

Tell me, how many people were watching games on Foxtel 25 years ago.

The onus is on you to find the answer. Do your own f**ken homework.

I wasn't "proving" anything. You were using ch9 numbers as proof for Foxtel.

Foxtel's lack of interest in Adelaide and Perth speaks volumes.

It wasn't that long ago that three games per round weren't simulcast on Foxtel. Ratings for these games were shit in Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth. That f**ks up your bullshit argument.

Also, you've used non sequitur in so many incorrect situations, that I'm not even sure you know what it means.

Saying that cockroaches must be birds because all birds have wings is a non-sequitur.

Perth Red said everyone in Perth watches NRL on Kayo because he does. That's a non-sequitur. You're using a similar line of reasoning.

I do. That you were using irrelevant numbers to make claims you couldn't support. I already proved that one.

Look at the ratings for games in Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth before they were simulcast on Foxtel. They don't support your argument.

 

[Wb1234]

If they provide value to Foxtel then News Ltd wouldn't have cut them in the 1990s.

Cutting the Crushers and Chargers caused more harm. That mistake has been rectified.



There are families struggling to put food on the table and pay their electricity bill. It's stupid to think everyone can afford Kayo and a ticketed season membership.



What relevance does streaming have with Perth?

Unless you can prove that a Perth-based team will lead to an increase in Western Australians subscribing to Kayo then it's just a red herring.




The onus is on you to find the answer. Do your own f**ken homework.



Foxtel's lack of interest in Adelaide and Perth speaks volumes.

It wasn't that long ago that three games per round weren't simulcast on Foxtel. Ratings for these games were shit in Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth. That f**ks up your bullshit argument.



Saying that cockroaches must be birds because all birds have wings is a non-sequitur.

Perth Red said everyone in Perth watches NRL on Kayo because he does. That's a non-sequitur. You're using a similar line of reasoning.



Look at the ratings for games in Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth before they were simulcast on Foxtel. They don't support your argument.

Maxipad is the west tigers of this forum

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Maxipad is the west tigers of this forum

Maxipad is more hormonal than I Bleed Monthly and Perth Wreck.

 

[Canard]

A bit of rampant sexism to go with the red neck views.

 

[Wb1234]

Maxipad is more hormonal than I Bleed Monthly and Perth Wreck.

Only an idiot would argue foxsports wants teams in Perth or Adelaide over Brisbane

 

[Maximus]

If they provide value to Foxtel then News Ltd wouldn't have cut them in the 1990s.

If a 2nd Brisbane team provided value to Foxtel, than News Ltd wouldn't have cut them in the 1990s.

Cutting the Crushers and Chargers caused more harm. That mistake has been rectified.

So if a Perth team is brought in, that would indicate Foxtel was rectifying a mistake?

There are families struggling to put food on the table and pay their electricity bill. It's stupid to think everyone can afford Kayo and a ticketed season membership.

Oh yep, that's him tripling down on this dumb shit.

What relevance does streaming have with Perth?

Unless you can prove that a Perth-based team will lead to an increase in Western Australians subscribing to Kayo then it's just a red herring.

The point should be pretty obvious. Every time you bring up the late 90s, it shows just how bad your argument is. Viewing live sport is totally different in 2023 compared to 25 years ago, but for some reason you think 1998 is relevant.

The onus is on you to find the answer. Do your own f**ken homework.

You are the one that thinks 1998 is relevant to 2023. I personally don't care what happened in 1998, but you bring it up 300 times a day as if it has any relevance to anything.

Foxtel's lack of interest in Adelaide and Perth speaks volumes.

It wasn't that long ago that three games per round weren't simulcast on Foxtel. Ratings for these games were shit in Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth. That f**ks up your bullshit argument.

What argument? I haven't made any argument. I just pointed out how dumb yours was.

 

[Maximus]

Maxipad is the west tigers of this forum

So if I'm the easy beat of the forum, how did you get trolled to the point that you had to put me on ignore?

Ok time to put you on the ignore list

It is fun watching how many times you've obviously clicked the 'view ignored post' button and read my post though.

 

[Pippen94]

If a 2nd Brisbane team provided value to Foxtel, than News Ltd wouldn't have cut them in the 1990s.



So if a Perth team is brought in, that would indicate Foxtel was rectifying a mistake?



Oh yep, that's him tripling down on this dumb shit.




The point should be pretty obvious. Every time you bring up the late 90s, it shows just how bad your argument is. Viewing live sport is totally different in 2023 compared to 25 years ago, but for some reason you think 1998 is relevant.



You are the one that thinks 1998 is relevant to 2023. I personally don't care what happened in 1998, but you bring it up 300 times a day as if it has any relevance to anything.



What argument? I haven't made any argument. I just pointed out how dumb yours was.

How long does it that for u to format ur posts like that?! Waste of time, just respond in one go..

 

[Pippen94]

Chargers and Crushers were cut because News Ltd were looking after the Broncos. Their selfishness really hurt the game in SEQ and bit the Broncos on the arse.

Ribot never wanted a second team when he was with the Broncos, Super League and Storm.

Cowboys were kept around because they had one of the largest fanbases in the league and generated strong corporate support. Reds were axed because they had no fans and a terrible business model.

Why are you and Maxipad pretending that internet streaming makes teams in Adelaide and Perth more valuable now than they were 26 years ago?

A Perth-based NRL club isn't going to generate a huge uptake in Kayo customers from that market. According to you and Maxipad, everyone who watches RL in Perth already has Kayo.

That's right. More likely to generate kayo buyers in NSW & qld where game gets most exposure.

 

[Maximus]

How long does it that for u to format ur posts like that?! Waste of time, just respond in one go..

You do know that if you press enter where you want to split the quote, it splits the quote right? It literally takes a few extra seconds to format it like that compared to responding in one go.

 

[Pippen94]

You do know that if you press enter where you want to split the quote, it splits the quote right? It literally takes a few extra seconds to format it like that compared to responding in one go.

Just respond in one go. Childish going tick for tack like that.