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Brisbane Tigers make their bid to be 18th team

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If a 2nd Brisbane team provided value to Foxtel, than News Ltd wouldn't have cut them in the 1990s.

News Ltd didn't want a competitor to the Broncos. Big mistake on their behalf because it led to their support levels nosediving in the late 90s. They've rectified this by adding the Titans and Dolphins.

So if a Perth team is brought in, that would indicate Foxtel was rectifying a mistake?

Hypothetical.

Oh yep, that's him tripling down on this dumb shit.

You saying something is "dumb" doesn't make it so.

The point should be pretty obvious. Every time you bring up the late 90s, it shows just how bad your argument is. Viewing live sport is totally different in 2023 compared to 25 years ago, but for some reason you think 1998 is relevant.

Sigh.

The only real difference between now and then is the medium Foxtel is broadcast on. Now we've got the internet carrying the feed instead of coaxial cable. It is more accessible today than it was back then thanks to Kayo and Wi-Fi.

Why do you think this is so important?

Are you trying to argue that the advent of streaming via Wi-Fi makes teams in Adelaide and Perth more valuable today than they were in 1998?

If so then you have failed to prove your point and are ignoring the bleeding obvious:

You need customers who are willing to buy the product.

Rugby union and soccer are cheaper and easier to access now than they were in 1998. You can get the A-League for $10 a month on Paramount+. Rugby union is about $30 a month on Stan Sport. Cheaper than they would be if they were on Kayo. Despite this, the viewership for both sports has declined rapidly since they left Foxtel. Using your f**ked up argument,they should be more popular than ever!

You are the one that thinks 1998 is relevant to 2023. I personally don't care what happened in 1998, but you bring it up 300 times a day as if it has any relevance to anything.

You do realise that Perth and Adelaide were cut by News Ltd in 1997 and 1998, right?

That's relevant to this discussion, which is the value of Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth to the broadcasters. It shows that neither Adelaide nor Perth have mattered to the broadcasters for over a quarter of a century.

What argument? I haven't made any argument. I just pointed out how dumb yours was.

So you're just being an obnoxious wanker and talking out of your arse?

You haven't made any point, FWIW. To make a point you need to provide evidence.
 

Perth Red

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Only an idiot would argue foxsports wants teams in Perth or Adelaide over Brisbane
This is hilarious, it’s almost like fox hasn’t just paid massively more money for AFL with 4 expansion clubs than it did for nrl. must be all the subscribers for afl in sydney and Brisbane I suppose?
 

Maximus

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News Ltd didn't want a competitor to the Broncos. Big mistake on their behalf because it led to their support levels nosediving in the late 90s. They've rectified this by adding the Titans and Dolphins.

Always an excuse for your hypocritical opinions.

Hypothetical.

So that's a yes, but you don't want to say it.

You saying something is "dumb" doesn't make it so.

I think you will find everyone other than your cheerleader also laughed at how dumb it was. And your cheerleader is also the dumbest member of the forum, so his opinion doesn't count for much.

Sigh.

The only real difference between now and then is the medium Foxtel is broadcast on. Now we've got the internet carrying the feed instead of coaxial cable. It is more accessible today than it was back then thanks to Kayo and Wi-Fi.

And that's all that matters. It's more accessible and cheaper, so comparing to how many people watched them in 1997 is dumb. The rest of your drivel is irrelevant.

You do realise that Perth and Adelaide were cut by News Ltd in 1997 and 1998, right?

That's relevant to this discussion, which is the value of Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth to the broadcasters. It shows that neither Adelaide nor Perth have mattered to the broadcasters for over a quarter of a century.

Oh good we are back to 1998 is the same as 2023 for broadcasters. The buffering for Kayo on dial-up must have been horrible.

So you're just being an obnoxious wanker and talking out of your arse?

You haven't made any point, FWIW. To make a point you need to provide evidence.

I did provide evidence. The evidence was that ch9 ratings do not indicate value for foxtel so your statement couldn't be proven. I don't need anything else, because nobody else is dumb enough to argue that ch9 ratings indicate anything for foxtel. Even your dumbarse cheerleader isn't backing you on that one.
 
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And that's all that matters. It's more accessible and cheaper, so comparing to how many people watched them in 1997 is dumb. The rest of your drivel is irrelevant.


What relevance does the price and accessibility of PTV in 2023 have to do with the value of proposed NRL teams in Adelaide and Perth?

I asked you to explain this in my previous post. You've failed to do so because you know it is irrelevant. This is what you do. You make stupid strawman arguments and then call your target "dumb". You're a boring bastard and very predictable.

Oh good we are back to 1998 is the same as 2023 for broadcasters. The buffering for Kayo on dial-up must have been horrible.

Antoher stupid comment from Maxipad.


I did provide evidence. The evidence was that ch9 ratings do not indicate value for foxtel so your statement couldn't be proven. I don't need anything else, because nobody else is dumb enough to argue that ch9 ratings indicate anything for foxtel. Even your dumbarse cheerleader isn't backing you on that one.

Ch9 ratings are a good indicator of how much interest there is for the game across the five metro markets. It wasn't that long ago that three games were exclusively live on FTA. The ratings for these games in Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth weren't strong. You can dance around this inevitable reality all you like, but it doesn't stop it being a fact that's known by the media landscape.
 

Maximus

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What relevance does the price and accessibility of PTV in 2023 have to do with the value of proposed NRL teams in Adelaide and Perth?

I asked you to explain this in my previous post. You've failed to do so because you know it is irrelevant. This is what you do. You make stupid strawman arguments and then call your target "dumb". You're a boring bastard and very predictable.

You claimed that them being kicked out in the 90s is proof that nobody was watching in those cities, which is therefore proof that nobody watches in those cities now. The entire tv landscape is completely different to what it was in the 90s, so the fact that you keep trying to compare it shows that you've got no argument.

Antoher stupid comment from Maxipad.

Not my fault you keep comparing 2023 with 1998. If you want to keep comparing irrelevant shit, I will continue making you look stupid.

Ch9 ratings are a good indicator of how much interest there is for the game across the five metro markets. It wasn't that long ago that three games were exclusively live on FTA. The ratings for these games in Adelaide, Melbourne and Perth weren't strong. You can dance around this inevitable reality all you like, but it doesn't stop it being a fact that's known by the media landscape.

Ch9 ratings are not an indicator of anything other than ch9 ratings.

So if a Perth side is brought in, what would that tell you about the media landscape?
 

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