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Brisbane Tigers make their bid to be 18th team

Perth Red

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The broadcasters would say a third Brisbane team is better for their bottom line. Having more games featuring teams from Brisbane and Sydney keep the viewing numbers strong for Ch9 and Foxtel.

Foxtel have had a few "Super Saturdays" featuring a Queensland team in all three time slots. A third Brisbane team allows Foxtel to retain this and allow Ch9 to have a Queensland team play in two of their three games.

Most of the game's revenue is provided by the broadcasters.
They may well do, they would also likely say more Sydney clubs would as well. Im guessing you wouldn't advocate for that just because myopic Tv companies would prefer it?

The game needs to make some bold strategic decisions for its future, not for the immediacy of TV's needs.

Weve just added another Brisbane team, Ch9 paid nothing for it and Fox allegedly, only just covered the cost of it. Brisbane2 wasnt a cash cow, no reason to think Brisbane3 will be any different.
 

Llangennech

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Many RL fans in Sydney are being small minded. St George, Balmain, Western Suburbs, Cronulla and Manly will still exists, but in the NSW Cup. The Dragons should be called The Dragons and play mainly in Wollongong. And as I've said, the Tigers should move to Brizzy and Manly and Cronulla should become NRLW and NSW Cup sides.
 

The Great Dane

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Why does this forum have three Raiders supporters trying to undermine the history of rugby league in Brisbane?

The irony is the Raiders were a worthless basketcase until they raided the Souths Magpies in the 1980s. They haven't won a premiership since the BRL was killed off. They make bugger all money from football operations and rely on pokies in Queensland to stay afloat. The ground they play out of is a dump and Canberra isn't even a rugby league city. If the game were to expand into all five metro areas then it will probably come at the expense of Canberra.

I think the real reason Raiders fans oppose Brisbane 3 is they fear it will make life tougher for their club. They already get f**k all games on Ch9. A third team from Brisbane will lead to fewer Raiders games on FTA.
This is exactly the attitude I'm talking about. It's all about the aggrandisement of Brisbane, Queensland's RL legacy, or whatever it is you think you are representing/protecting, at the expense of what is in the interest of the sport as a whole.

The fundamental difference between people like you and me is that you put the interests of your club over those of the game as a whole. You'd kill the sport as a commercial product if you thought it'd suit your club, where I'd murder the Raiders in a heartbeat if I truly believed it was in RL's interests going forward.

Your nonsense narrative about the Raiders is comedy gold BTW.
 
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The Great Dane

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The broadcasters would say a third Brisbane team is better for their bottom line. Having more games featuring teams from Brisbane and Sydney keep the viewing numbers strong for Ch9 and Foxtel.

Foxtel have had a few "Super Saturdays" featuring a Queensland team in all three time slots. A third Brisbane team allows Foxtel to retain this and allow Ch9 to have a Queensland team play in two of their three games.

Most of the game's revenue is provided by the broadcasters.
Yeah just like Fox demanding Western United and Macarthur Bulls lol. That was such a big oof that the APL are trying to rush through another round of expansion to right the wrong.

The broadcasters first priority is their own businesses, and their interests and the NRL and RL's interests don't always align. In fact very rarely, if ever, do the broadcasters interests completely align with the league's.
 

mongoose

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Why does this forum have three Raiders supporters trying to undermine the history of rugby league in Brisbane?

The irony is the Raiders were a worthless basketcase until they raided the Souths Magpies in the 1980s. They haven't won a premiership since the BRL was killed off. They make bugger all money from football operations and rely on pokies in Queensland to stay afloat. The ground they play out of is a dump and Canberra isn't even a rugby league city. If the game were to expand into all five metro areas then it will probably come at the expense of Canberra.

I think the real reason Raiders fans oppose Brisbane 3 is they fear it will make life tougher for their club. They already get f**k all games on Ch9. A third team from Brisbane will lead to fewer Raiders games on FTA.
hahah you need to get a handle of these emotional outbursts - so many of your posts come across like you just read something off of Wikipedia and then putting forward your "expert opinion" on the forum. I get the feeling you've been following league for about 5 years...
 

Pippen94

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They may well do, they would also likely say more Sydney clubs would as well. Im guessing you wouldn't advocate for that just because myopic Tv companies would prefer it?

The game needs to make some bold strategic decisions for its future, not for the immediacy of TV's needs.

Weve just added another Brisbane team, Ch9 paid nothing for it and Fox allegedly, only just covered the cost of it. Brisbane2 wasnt a cash cow, no reason to think Brisbane3 will be any different.

Getting outside body to fund expansion is bad. Ok
 

Pippen94

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Yeah just like Fox demanding Western United and Macarthur Bulls lol. That was such a big oof that the APL are trying to rush through another round of expansion to right the wrong.

The broadcasters first priority is their own businesses, and their interests and the NRL and RL's interests don't always align. In fact very rarely, if ever, do the broadcasters interests completely align with the league's.

Fox wanted Sutherland & dandenong. A league should've listened
 

MugaB

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hahah you need to get a handle of these emotional outbursts - so many of your posts come across like you just read something off of Wikipedia and then putting forward your "expert opinion" on the forum. I get the feeling you've been following league for about 5 years...
He is a pure Potato counter... nearly all of his posts are negative towards any team NOT cowboy related, or vying for a "logan based NRL team"
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Total Potato!!!
 

Canard

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He is a pure Potato counter... nearly all of his posts are negative towards any team NOT cowboy related, or vying for a "logan based NRL team"
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Total Potato!!!
He isn't really a Cowboys fan, given he is a southerner and a Brisbane local.

He is just a "Not Broncos" fan, even though thats turned on its head in the last 6 months, whereby he insisted that every Cowboys fan should have the Broncos as their 2nd team, in total ignorance of our clubs history and rivalry.
 

Colk

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hahah you need to get a handle of these emotional outbursts - so many of your posts come across like you just read something off of Wikipedia and then putting forward your "expert opinion" on the forum. I get the feeling you've been following league for about 5 years...

We would have got away with it Mongoose if it wasn’t for that dastardly GROTD
 

MugaB

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He isn't really a Cowboys fan, given he is a southerner and a Brisbane local.

He is just a "Not Broncos" fan, even though thats turned on its head in the last 6 months, whereby he insisted that every Cowboys fan should have the Broncos as their 2nd team, in total ignorance of our clubs history and rivalry.
Yeah thats like roosters fans saying they should root for souths since they are in the same city, if they make a GF and roosters dont
 
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They may well do, they would also likely say more Sydney clubs would as well. Im guessing you wouldn't advocate for that just because myopic Tv companies would prefer it?

The game needs to make some bold strategic decisions for its future, not for the immediacy of TV's needs.

Weve just added another Brisbane team, Ch9 paid nothing for it and Fox allegedly, only just covered the cost of it. Brisbane2 wasnt a cash cow, no reason to think Brisbane3 will be any different.

Fewer Broncos game on Ch9 under the new deal is the reason Ch9 didn't pay extra.

The TV deal was a dud because V'landys didn't take take the rights to tender.
 
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This is exactly the attitude I'm talking about. It's all about the aggrandisement of Brisbane, Queensland's RL legacy, or whatever it is you think you are representing/protecting, at the expense of what is in the interest of the sport as a whole.

The fundamental difference between people like you and me is that you put the interests of your club over those of the game as a whole. You'd kill the sport as a commercial product if you thought it'd suit your club, where I'd murder the Raiders in a heartbeat if I truly believed it was in RL's interests going forward.

Your nonsense narrative about the Raiders is comedy gold BTW.

If you care so much for the good of the game then you'll advocate for the Raiders to relocate to Adelaide, yeah?

Canberra is not one of the five metro areas and they draw shit ratings in Brisbane and Sydney because ACT is a separate territory in the middle of no where. Adelaide is one of the 5 metro areas.

I know what you and The Goose will say.

"Cowboys and Titans are also regional".

Yes, Cowboys and Titans are regional clubs, but the former draws a lot of support in Brisbane. The latter is included in the Brisbane OzTam ratings. Both clubs matter to rugby league fans in Brisbane and draw good ratings for Ch9. Raiders don't mean anything to anyone from Brisbane and Sydney. The only person in Brisbane who follows them is some wanker from Canberra who won't live down there because he reckons it's a shitty boring city. He also thinks the ARU and ARLC have conspired with one another to not have an NRL team in Perth, so forgive me for thinking he's a nutcase. If a Raiders fan won't live in Canberra, what chance does the club have of enticing marquee players from interstate to sign with them?

What part of my alleged narrative is wrong?

Canberra were a basketcase until they poached Meninga, Belcher, Bennett, the Walters brothers and plenty of other Queenslanders from the BRL. Their last premiership was Mal Meninga's final rugby league game in 1994.

What has Canberra won since the BRL died in 1997?

Ch9 won't touch them with a 10 foot pole because they're worthless to the commercial sector. The Raiders Group has bought up God knows how many sporting clubs in SEQ to offset their poor returns from football operations. They're a classic example of a club that provides nothing and relies heavily on Queensland and NSW for survival, yet their fans want to dictate how the game is run in Brisbane and Sydney.

Yeah just like Fox demanding Western United and Macarthur Bulls lol. That was such a big oof that the APL are trying to rush through another round of expansion to right the wrong.

The broadcasters first priority is their own businesses, and their interests and the NRL and RL's interests don't always align. In fact very rarely, if ever, do the broadcasters interests completely align with the league's.

I don't disagree with what you're saying here. It doesn't change the fact our game is practically governed by the broadcasters because that's where it sources the bulk of its income. Officials who've tried to stand up to te broadcastera have been knifed in the back by the clubs and RLPA because all they care about is the money on offer from Ch9 and Foxtel. Based on those parameters we're highly unlikely to see the game head in the direction that you and The Goose want it to go.
 
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He isn't really a Cowboys fan, given he is a southerner and a Brisbane local.

He is just a "Not Broncos" fan, even though thats turned on its head in the last 6 months, whereby he insisted that every Cowboys fan should have the Broncos as their 2nd team, in total ignorance of our clubs history and rivalry.

I was right about you having a strong and irrational hatred of SEQ. Your stupid xenophobic post confirms it.

A person doesn't have to be from North Queensland to support the Cowboys. I adopted the Cowboys when they entered the completion because they were true battlers and had a strong and passionate supporter base. I supported the Townsville Suns for the same reason. It wasn't easy being a Cowboys fan in Brisbane when they entered the competition, but I persevered because I love the club. If I ain't a "true fan" after staying loyal despite having other options then no one is.

Using your stupid logic, you're not a real North Queenslander because you f**ked off out of Cairns as soon as you could to live in Melbourne.

You're an insecure yuppie, hey?

I've seen your posts on 4 Corners. They scream "insecure yuppie".
 
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Eh? Surely between broncos and dolphins there are more fta games featuring brisbane games this year than ever before?

There's fewer Broncos game on Ch9. No team draws more money for Ch9 than the Broncos. David Gyngell spoke about this about a decade ago.

Dolphins were an unknown quantity for Ch9. They've exceeded expectations and now Ch9 wants a third team in Brisbane.
 

Perth Red

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There's fewer Broncos game on Ch9. No team draws more money for Ch9 than the Broncos. David Gyngell spoke about this about a decade ago.

Dolphins were an unknown quantity for Ch9. They've exceeded expectations and now Ch9 wants a third team in Brisbane.
so Brisbane2 or 3 arent that valuable to Ch9? In fact you can argue they've taken value away from ch9 if its led to less Broncos games and thats all they care about?
Ch9 didnt think Brisbane2 would be a success, but they are confident Brisbane3 will be? Ch9 paid nothing for Brisbane 2 but theyll pay loads for Brisbane3?
I'm not getting your argument here.
 

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