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Brisbane Tigers make their bid to be 18th team

Perth Red

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If parra was picking a name today they wouldn’t be picking the eel

and the nrl is full of nfl mascot names
(Cows broncs)
the fact easts thought firehawks was a good choice is a reflection of how out of touch they were
you're opinion. I see it no better or worse than many others.
 

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As much as I like the bears returning png linking with Brisbane easts make so much sense

bad luck for the bears if they can’t link with Perth for team 19
 

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That’s why easts ditched it this time around cause it’s a lemon
Having been inviolved when they ditched the Reds for the Pirates I know it has nothing to do with the brand strength per se. I dont recall any major public backlash in Brisbane to any of the three bid brands. In fact the only backlash was to the stupidity of "The". Ergo I will put it down to your personal dislike as you still havent been able to say why a Firehawk is any worse a name than a Sea-Eagle or a Bronco. Youre welcome to your opinion, buts thats all it is.
 

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Having been inviolved when they ditched the Reds for the Pirates I know it has nothing to do with the brand strength per se. I dont recall any major public backlash in Brisbane to any of the three bid brands. In fact the only backlash was to the stupidity of "The". Ergo I will put it down to your personal dislike as you still havent been able to say why a Firehawk is any worse a name than a Sea-Eagle or a Bronco. Youre welcome to your opinion, buts thats all it is.
Ditched reds due to club having a bad history to it

pirates was imo a better choice anyway kids would love it

or you could go Perth firehawks
 

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Ditched reds due to club having a bad history to it

pirates was imo a better choice anyway kids would love it

or you could go Perth firehawks
Nothing to do with it.

Agree I really like Pirates and its marketability is going to be amazing. merch sales will be nuts.

I wouldn't have minded, I like it.
 

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Nothing to do with it.

Agree I really like Pirates and its marketability is going to be amazing. merch sales will be nuts.

I wouldn't have minded, I like it.
I love the reds brand, and i dont mind pirates, your right about the merch and marketability of it, they are both good picks... too bad they wont end up being used tho...
 

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I love the reds brand, and i dont mind pirates, your right about the merch and marketability of it, they are both good picks... too bad they wont end up being used tho...
I actually think Perth red may be right and they don’t have to link with the bears to be team 19

if the wa govt come up with a financially compelling offer like is happening for png the bears could get ditched
 

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Why do you say that?
Coz this arlc aren't handing a licence to a mob that doesn't have a track record yet... and im not talking about past bids or GCtitans, these bids are getting look at by this commission, and they aren't looking to lose face by giving perth there own team that doesn't have a "east tigers" or "NS bears" etc linked to it..
Yes the newtown jets might be the feeder club if these WA guys put out a bid, but they aren't the ones running this club, this whole notion that the bid will win because state of WA needs a team doesn't fly,
There are reserve grade clubs already set up and running, just as the dolphins were, just like Ipswich jets, East tigers, Wynnum Manly, etc all ready to set up if they wished to bid.... trouble is arlc and most of the sporting public want to grow the game away from qld and nsw, which i am all for, but they'll be hard to convince the commission if they were not run by one of these reserve grade clubs... its why i said the bears joint bid is by far the best idea for perth to join the comp, and 10 games makes sense, hell 12 games is far better sense, but its all about give and take if its a joint bid
 
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Coz this arlc aren't handing a licence to a mob that doesn't have a track record yet... and im not talking about past bids or GCtitans, these bids are getting look at by this commission, and they aren't looking to lose face by giving perth there own team that doesn't have a "east tigers" or "NS bears" etc linked to it..
Yes the newtown jets might be the feeder club if these WA guys put out a bid, but they aren't the ones running this club, this whole notion that the bid will win because state of WA needs a team doesn't fly,
There are reserve grade clubs already set up and running, just as the dolphins were, just like Ipswich jets, East tigers, Wynnum Manly, etc all ready to set up if they wished to bid.... trouble is arlc and most of the sporting public want to grow the game away from qld and nsw, which i am all for, but they'll be hard to convince the commission if they were not run by one of these reserve grade clubs... its why i said the bears joint bid is by far the best idea for perth to join the comp, and 10 games makes sense, hell 12 games is far better sense, but its all about give and take if its a joint bid
They may insist on nrlwa being on the club board to help mitigate that risk and allow nrl to keep a stronger influence on the governance and performance of the club. that would certain,y be one way of giving them some confidence in anew ownership. But given cumins has been involved with rugby league in wa since the early 90’s and if the wa govt package is worthwhile they should be pretty confident anyway.

having nrlwa on the board also ensures we don’t end up with a storm situation where it’s taken them 20 years to finally start being involved in grassroots RL in Vic.
 

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Coz this arlc aren't handing a licence to a mob that doesn't have a track record yet... and im not talking about past bids or GCtitans, these bids are getting look at by this commission, and they aren't looking to lose face by giving perth there own team that doesn't have a "east tigers" or "NS bears" etc linked to it..
Yes the newtown jets might be the feeder club if these WA guys put out a bid, but they aren't the ones running this club, this whole notion that the bid will win because state of WA needs a team doesn't fly,
There are reserve grade clubs already set up and running, just as the dolphins were, just like Ipswich jets, East tigers, Wynnum Manly, etc all ready to set up if they wished to bid.... trouble is arlc and most of the sporting public want to grow the game away from qld and nsw, which i am all for, but they'll be hard to convince the commission if they were not run by one of these reserve grade clubs... its why i said the bears joint bid is by far the best idea for perth to join the comp, and 10 games makes sense, hell 12 games is far better sense, but its all about give and take if its a joint bid
Yeah maybe. You can appoint people with experience in the NRL without east coast ownership
 

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Hence your dumb opinions which all make sense to you and only you, your constant knitpicking of other peoples opinions or concepts are as valid as your bad taste for "united" and your favorite "local fauna"... again either way most of your ideas are outdated or just plain useless as the bombers bid or the firehawk bids you loved so much...
You're projecting your lack of understanding onto others.

Pointing out things such as your suggestion that a team that uses Charles Kingsford Smith in their imagery name themselves 'The Brisbane Barons' after Manfred von Richthofen, a man he fought against in WWI, is both incredibly stupid and offensive, isn't just pedantic nitpicking. BTW, you've got a lot of gall to call others 'bad taste' after having suggested such a thing!
That's just a single example of some of the unbelievably ignorant stupidity you've spouted over the years BTW. . .

You say my ideas are 'bad taste', 'outdated', and 'useless', yet you never attempt to explain why, and couldn't form coherent arguments as to why other than "I don't like it and you have to respect my opinion man" anyway if we're being honest. Furthermore, all those things are better than lacking any imagination, creativity, or originality whatsoever like you.

I've made it very clear over the years that I didn't love either the Bombers or Firehawks bids, and the fact you have to rely so heavily on poisoning the well and misrepresenting me says a lot about you and where you're coming from.

Notice how I actually addressed your points instead of ignoring them and throwing out a bunch of non sequiturs? It'd be nice if you attempted to do that, as it makes a genuine discourse possible.
 

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Yeah maybe. You can appoint people with experience in the NRL without east coast ownership
The ownership i really dont care about, make it all perth, go 50/50, whatever floats their boats, as long as they are both invested, its about the running of the club from the get-go basically, getting a head start from a club who already in operation, and adding the 1st grade to it will be a lot easier than starting from complete scratch.
 
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MugaB

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You're projecting your lack of understanding onto others.

Pointing out things such as your suggestion that a team that uses Charles Kingsford Smith in their imagery name themselves 'The Brisbane Barons' after Manfred von Richthofen, a man he fought against in WWI, is both incredibly stupid and offensive, isn't just pedantic nitpicking. BTW, you've got a lot of gall to call others 'bad taste' after having suggested such a thing!
That's just a single example of some of the unbelievably ignorant stupidity you've spouted over the years BTW. . .

You say my ideas are 'bad taste', 'outdated', and 'useless', yet you never attempt to explain why, and couldn't form coherent arguments as to why other than "I don't like it and you have to respect my opinion man" anyway if we're being honest. Furthermore, all those things are better than lacking any imagination, creativity, or originality whatsoever like you.

I've made it very clear over the years that I didn't love either the Bombers or Firehawks bids, and the fact you have to rely so heavily on poisoning the well and misrepresenting me says a lot about you and where you're coming from.

Notice how I actually addressed your points instead of ignoring them and throwing out a bunch of non sequiturs? It'd be nice if you attempted to do that, as it makes a genuine discourse possible.
Nope... dont really give a f**k about you or your arguments really MAN.....
just thought Brisbane smiths, firehawks, united, basically anything you come up with or advocate for are shithouse ideas... and really you're here only to add your worthless opinions and project your vast unwelcoming knowledge on everything "branding" onto all of us lowly dumbbells... so carry on f**kwit
 
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Bukowski

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The ownership i really dont care about, make it all perth, go 50/50, whatever floats their boats, as long as they are both invested, its about the running of the club from the get-go basically, getting a head start from a club who already in operation, and adding the 1st grade to it will be a lot easier than starting from complete scratch.
50/50 would cause massive issues I reckon. Look at the Tigers and saints. 115 years of running a club in the to grade and both are basket cases. If be looking at blokes like Ribot or others that were involved with storm. They will need the best CEO available.
 

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The ownership i really dont care about, make it all perth, go 50/50, whatever floats their boats, as long as they are both invested, its about the running of the club from the get-go basically, getting a head start from a club who already in operation, and adding the 1st grade to it will be a lot easier than starting from complete scratch.
Usually the easiest option ends up with the worse outcome. Not hard for the new club to employ experienced nrl club administrators.
 

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Tigers have two pathways to the nrl

1. join with png. Would only get 2 games in Brisbane and it’s manly a png club

or

3. align with Ipswich / Logan providing the financial muscle their bid lacks. Broncos have less cause for complaints

all games in Brisbane

obviously option two is far superior for them
 

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