Brisbane Tigers make their bid to be 18th team

[The Great Dane]

Really

and yet the raiders won their first title just seven years after admission into the nswrl when other clubs could take 50 years

they really were struggling financially they spent more than the salary cap on one of the best rosters in the league

I said it was a financial burden, not that it caused the Raiders to struggle financially... The amount of time you have to spend on here explaining everything you say to the slow kids in the class is getting really tiresome.

BTW, the salary cap was introduced in 1990, so there was no salary cap when the Raiders built the core of their team in the late 80s.

You wanna know a dirty secret; the Raiders weren't the only team found to have been over the cap in 1990. The NSWRL agreed initially that all the teams that spent over the cap in 1990 did so because of a misunderstanding of how bonus payments would be treated in the new salary cap and not because they were intentionally trying to cheat the cap. They also found that multiple other teams would have breached the cap if more of the bonus payment clauses in their players contracts had been activated.
Out of the 3/4 teams that were found to be over the cap the Raiders were the only team that was give any significant punishment other than simply being told to renegotiate their contracts so it wouldn't happen again, and it was only because a handful of powerful clubs leaned hard on Arko and Quayle to do so.

That single act of corruption was the biggest contributing factor that convinced the Raiders to back SL, and if it wasn't for that and how the Broncos were treated at the time SL probably never would have got off the ground. It's ironic how often people create their own bogeymen isn't it.

 

[Perth Red]

Th

Wow so cheap

how did they own Perth and not Cronulla

they could’ve booted Cronulla if they wanted too

perhaps they saw first hand what a rugby league club in Perth was doing in terms of tv ratings

let’s hope they were wrong about killing off Perth for a small Sydney club

Just looked and jnrs start at $8 as well at aami so seems no different there.

reds board we’re taken over by news ltd in 96 so easier for them to move them to Melbourne.

 

[Wb1234]

I said it was a financial burden, not that it caused the Raiders to struggle financially... The amount of time you have to spend on here explaining everything you say to the slow kids in the class is getting really tiresome.

BTW, the salary cap was introduced in 1990, so there was no salary cap when the Raiders built the core of their team in the late 80s.

You wanna know a dirty secret; the Raiders weren't the only team found to have been over the cap in 1990. The NSWRL agreed initially that all the teams that spent over the cap in 1990 did so because of a misunderstanding of how bonus payments would be treated in the new salary cap and not because they were intentionally trying to cheat the cap. They also found that multiple other teams would have breached the cap if more of the bonus payment clauses in their players contracts had been activated.
Out of the 3/4 teams that were found to be over the cap the Raiders were the only team that was give any significant punishment other than simply being told to renegotiate their contracts so it wouldn't happen again, and it was only because a handful of powerful clubs leaned hard on Arko and Quayle to do so.

That single act of corruption was the biggest contributing factor that convinced the Raiders to back SL, and if it wasn't for that and how the Broncos were treated at the time SL probably never would have got off the ground. It's ironic how often people create their own bogeymen isn't it.

Yeh the raiders managed to cheat the cap so the cost of covering buses to Canberra is a red herring lol

 

[Wb1234]

Just looked and jnrs start at $8 as well at aami so seems no different there.

reds board we’re taken over by news ltd in 96 so easier for them to move them to Melbourne.

Obviously they wanted a team in Melbourne for the potential tv ratings vs not doing so well
In Perth

 

[The Great Dane]

Yeh the raiders managed to cheat the cap so the cost of covering buses to Canberra is a red herring lol

Your comprehension skills are a atrocious.

The education system in this country has a lot to answer for.

 

[MugaB]

So you're going to get in on the lying game as well are you?

Just going to pretend that you didn't notice that it was actually Pippen that came up with The Smith's, then attributed it to me?

You really are a dumb merkin.

He might have lied about the wording of "brisbane smiths", or that you campaigned ideas about a similar logo, actually but i do remember you loving the bomber logo, and craping on over and over about how great the kingsford smith story would be for a new brisbane franchise, so thats probably where that all stems from... either way dolphins won the bid, and any of these other brisbane bids probably aren't getting in until maybe the 20th license gets announced... even then they'll surely never choose "brisbane smiths" or "brisbane united"

 

[Pippen94]

So you're going to get in on the lying game as well are you?

Just going to pretend that you didn't notice that it was actually Pippen that came up with The Smith's, then attributed it to me?

You really are a dumb merkin.

Wtf?!

 

[Pippen94]

He might have lied about the wording of "brisbane smiths", or that you campaigned ideas about a similar logo, actually but i do remember you loving the bomber logo, and craping on over and over about how great the kingsford smith story would be for a new brisbane franchise, so thats probably where that all stems from... either way dolphins won the bid, and any of these other brisbane bids probably aren't getting in until maybe the 20th license gets announced... even then they'll surely never choose "brisbane smiths" or "brisbane united"

Where did I lie?! Look at Dane's posts

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

They pulled the same shit on the Raiders and Steelers as well.

Paying for teams to bus down to Canberra or Wollongong wasn't a big a financial burden as paying for flights to Townsville and Perth would have been, but it still had a significant financial impact on them.

The NSWRL and VFL expanded before they were in a position to properly fund it. In the NSWRL's case it created the perfect scenario for News Ltd to create a rebel competition. Teams like Cowboys and Raiders were always going to jump ship when News Ltd provided them with an equal playing field to the Sydney clubs.

 

[mongoose]

He might have lied about the wording of "brisbane smiths", or that you campaigned ideas about a similar logo, actually but i do remember you loving the bomber logo, and craping on over and over about how great the kingsford smith story would be for a new brisbane franchise, so thats probably where that all stems from... either way dolphins won the bid, and any of these other brisbane bids probably aren't getting in until maybe the 20th license gets announced... even then they'll surely never choose "brisbane smiths" or "brisbane united"

I had a ex who was into The Smiths... a bit too whiney for me

 

[Perth Red]

Obviously they wanted a team in Melbourne for the potential tv ratings vs not doing so well
In Perth

They only had tv for one year so not sure how you come to that conclusion? But yeh I’m sure idea Of having a city of 5mill in the comp was appealing to them

 

[Wb1234]

They only had tv for one year so not sure how you come to that conclusion? But yeh I’m sure idea Of having a city of 5mill in the comp was appealing to them

And a massive syd club Like the sharks

 

[Perth Red]

And a massive syd club Like the sharks

Like I said easier to relocate a club you own. Not surprising nswrl, sorry arl looked after the NSW clubs.surprisingly sharks were pretty well supported in 1997.

 

[Wb1234]

Like I said easier to relocate a club you own. Not surprising nswrl, sorry arl looked after the NSW clubs.surprisingly sharks were pretty well supported in 1997.

Cronulla wasn’t an arl club then buddy

maybe you should read a book on this

 

[Pippen94]

Like I said easier to relocate a club you own. Not surprising nswrl, sorry arl looked after the NSW clubs.surprisingly sharks were pretty well supported in 1997.

Now Perth begging former NRL clubs to join bid.

 

[Perth Red]

Cronulla wasn’t an arl club then buddy

maybe you should read a book on this

Never said they were, said they were a nsw club

maybe you should learn to read?

 

[Perth Red]

Now Perth begging former NRL clubs to join bid.

Tik tok, you’re salty tears are oh so sweet

 

[The Great Dane]

He might have lied about the wording of "brisbane smiths", or that you campaigned ideas about a similar logo, actually but i do remember you loving the bomber logo, and craping on over and over about how great the kingsford smith story would be for a new brisbane franchise, so thats probably where that all stems from... either way dolphins won the bid, and any of these other brisbane bids probably aren't getting in until maybe the 20th license gets announced... even then they'll surely never choose "brisbane smiths" or "brisbane united"

As far as we can tell he seems to have made it up himself then attributed it to me, so he didn't just lie 'about the wording'. I didn't defend it as a brand either, simply said it was ludicrous to suggest that it was somehow racist when he asserted that it was racist and that I was a racist for coming up with it (even though I didn't come up with it).

The earliest post that references it that any of us can find is his, and as I said in response to that post I don't remember ever coming up with it and he's definitely misrepresenting the context if I did in fact come up with it way back when.

The Brisbane Bombers branding was genius. Subtle, sophisticated, and plenty of mileage and merchandising opportunities. The only flaws were the sooking about the name being the same as Essendon's, and it being a little too sophisticated for some people to understand (i.e. you lol). The name could've been changed with little difficulty, and I don't see a problem with it being a bit too sophisticated for some people.

Brisbane United would have been perfectly fine sports branding nomenclature as well, and the fact you're small-minded and think that soccer somehow has a monopoly on the term 'united' doesn't change that. It actually would have been perfect for the Dolphins because you could have seamlessly folded their old branding into it whilest also creating something more neutral and inclusive at the same time, but I digress and this isn't the place to explore that idea.

 

[MugaB]

As far as we can tell he seems to have made it up himself then attributed it to me, so he didn't just lie 'about the wording'. I didn't defend it as a brand either, simply said it was ludicrous to suggest that it was somehow racist when he asserted that it was racist and that I was a racist for coming up with it (even though I didn't come up with it).

The earliest post that references it that any of us can find is his, and as I said in response to that post I don't remember ever coming up with it and he's definitely misrepresenting the context if I did in fact come up with it way back when.

The Brisbane Bombers branding was genius. Subtle, sophisticated, and plenty of mileage and merchandising opportunities. The only flaws were the sooking about the name being the same as Essendon's, and it being a little too sophisticated for some people to understand (i.e. you lol). The name could've been changed with little difficulty, and I don't see a problem with it being a bit too sophisticated for some people.

Brisbane United would have been perfectly fine sports branding nomenclature as well, and the fact you're small-minded and think that soccer somehow has a monopoly on the term 'united' doesn't change that. It actually would have been perfect for the Dolphins because you could have seamlessly folded their old branding into it whilest also creating something more neutral and inclusive at the same time, but I digress and this isn't the place to explore that idea.

Yes coz "bombers" is so sophisticated... fmd
"United" lacks imagination I'll leave it at that...
As for the Dolphins they wanted to carry their brand, maybe not as redcliffe, but definitely as their mascot dolphins, trying to change that for them is useless...
Either way its a moot argument from years ago

 

[Wb1234]

As far as we can tell he seems to have made it up himself then attributed it to me, so he didn't just lie 'about the wording'. I didn't defend it as a brand either, simply said it was ludicrous to suggest that it was somehow racist when he asserted that it was racist and that I was a racist for coming up with it (even though I didn't come up with it).

The earliest post that references it that any of us can find is his, and as I said in response to that post I don't remember ever coming up with it and he's definitely misrepresenting the context if I did in fact come up with it way back when.

The Brisbane Bombers branding was genius. Subtle, sophisticated, and plenty of mileage and merchandising opportunities. The only flaws were the sooking about the name being the same as Essendon's, and it being a little too sophisticated for some people to understand (i.e. you lol). The name could've been changed with little difficulty, and I don't see a problem with it being a bit too sophisticated for some people.

Brisbane United would have been perfectly fine sports branding nomenclature as well, and the fact you're small-minded and think that soccer somehow has a monopoly on the term 'united' doesn't change that. It actually would have been perfect for the Dolphins because you could have seamlessly folded their old branding into it whilest also creating something more neutral and inclusive at the same time, but I digress and this isn't the place to explore that idea.

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