Brisbane Tigers make their bid to be 18th team

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

That's 100% down to the legalisation of Pokies though, without them the three you mentioned would be just as f**ked.

What would have existed before the 50s in the outer suburbs of Brisbane? I'm no historian but I wouldn't imagine much?

They had too many small teams clustered on the north side. Valleys, Brothers and Wests were a stone's throw from one another. They needed to spread out. NSWRFL clubs from congested areas in Sydney experienced the same fate.

 

[Pippen94]

yeah sure but its not 1960 anymore... we have a (mostly) nationally televised competition with a team in NZ. Professional players who get paid $1 million a year, corporate sponsors etc. The game needs proper expansion, not more suburban expansion.

Whatever makes the most sense in terms of making game stronger; probably east tigers

 

[mongoose]

What you're suggesting is so improbable and illogical it's laughable.

There's no way in hell the ARLC would agree to an under the table agreement with the ARU that benefits rugby union to our game's detriment. It's not like the ARU has anything to offer in exchange to buy our game's complicity in this one-sided arrangement.

This is a case of you not wanting to accept that your views on expansion are not shared by the game's power brokers. You're too arrogant to concede that your opinion is not based in reality. That would require you to admit to being wrong. You'll never admit to being wrong about anything.

It's easier to delude yourself into thinking there must be a conspiracy preventing your amazing vision on expansion from becoming reality, yeah?

wrong about what? its a conspiracy theory, an abstract idea. No one has proven it to be wrong yet, certainly not you.

It's suspicious to me that the NRL has sat on its hands for so long regarding Perth and if you think the ARLC is truly independent then you're naïve. If the Federal govt can sway the NRL to support a team in PNG then another larger body could sway them to stay out of Perth.

Its funny though that you've dug up this old post of mine to try and discredit me, it just makes you look like even more of a crackpot.

 

[Wb1234]

wrong about what? its a conspiracy theory, an abstract idea. No one has proven it to be wrong yet, certainly not you.

It's suspicious to me that the NRL has sat on its hands for so long regarding Perth and if you think the ARLC is truly independent then you're naïve. If the Federal govt can sway the NRL to support a team in PNG then another larger body could sway them to stay out of Perth.

Its funny though that you've dug up this old post of mine to try and discredit me, it just makes you look like even more of a crackpot.

Until last year the nrl wasn’t putting a second team in Brisbane and you think they had the balls for Perth

no conspiracy just insular leaders

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

wrong about what? its a conspiracy theory, an abstract idea. No one has proven it to be wrong yet, certainly not you.

It's suspicious to me that the NRL has sat on its hands for so long regarding Perth and if you think the ARLC is truly independent then you're naïve. If the Federal govt can sway the NRL to support a team in PNG then another larger body could sway them to stay out of Perth.

Its funny though that you've dug up this old post of mine to try and discredit me, it just makes you look like even more of a crackpot.

If the ARLC has some secret handshake agreement with the ARU to "stay out of Perth" then why have the NRL held numerous rugby league events in the city?

Going back a decade we've had several premiership matches played at Perth Oval and Perth Stadium.

In 2020 the NRL Nines was played at Perth Oval.

Several State of Origin fixtures have been held at Perth Stadium.

I'd say that disproves your insane theory.

I've never said the ARLC is truly independent. I've pointed out on several occasions that each club gets a vote at the table. So does the QRL and NSWRL. You can bet your arse they will not be interested in expanding to Adelaide and Perth. That right there sums up the NRL's reluctance to expand into Adelaide and Perth. It's not some conspiracy with the ARU.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Whatever makes the most sense in terms of making game stronger; probably east tigers

Brisbane Tigers have $25m in cash reserves and $35m in net assets, courtesy of Easts Leagues Club. That's what every other bid is competing against when they present their business case to the ARLC. Money talks.

 

[flippikat]

Brisbane Tigers have $25m in cash reserves and $35m in net assets, courtesy of Easts Leagues Club. That's what every other bid is competing against when they present their business case to the ARLC. Money talks.

While it's true that the wealth of Brisbane Tigers is compelling, what would it take for them & the NRL to allay any concerns from Broncos, Dolphins & Titans regarding them encroaching on their turf and cannibalizing the existing teams' fanbases & revenue?

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

While it's true that the wealth of Brisbane Tigers is compelling, what would it take for them & the NRL to allay any concerns from Broncos, Dolphins & Titans regarding them encroaching on their turf and cannibalizing the existing teams' fanbases & revenue?

Extra funding from the broadcasters would change their mind.

 

[Wb1234]

While it's true that the wealth of Brisbane Tigers is compelling, what would it take for them & the NRL to allay any concerns from Broncos, Dolphins & Titans regarding them encroaching on their turf and cannibalizing the existing teams' fanbases & revenue?

Dolphins Introduction has seen broncos crowds and membership skyrocket

If they link with the jets the other clubs can’t say much imo

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Brisbane Jets would be an interesting name.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Brisbane. Perth. Wellington. That's my pick for the next three teams.

 

[flippikat]

Brisbane Jets would be an interesting name.

I imagine if the Jets (or some western corridor bid) combines with the Brisbane Easts bid, we might see orange & green as a color combo in the NRL.

 

[mongoose]

If the ARLC has some secret handshake agreement with the ARU to "stay out of Perth" then why have the NRL held numerous rugby league events in the city?

Going back a decade we've had several premiership matches played at Perth Oval and Perth Stadium.

In 2020 the NRL Nines was played at Perth Oval.

Several State of Origin fixtures have been held at Perth Stadium.

I'd say that disproves your insane theory.

I've never said the ARLC is truly independent. I've pointed out on several occasions that each club gets a vote at the table. So does the QRL and NSWRL. You can bet your arse they will not be interested in expanding to Adelaide and Perth. That right there sums up the NRL's reluctance to expand into Adelaide and Perth. It's not some conspiracy with the ARU.

You haven't disproved anything but well done "disproving" some comment I just threw out there 2, 3 years ago? I don't even care, I'm not that attached to it.

 

[mongoose]

While it's true that the wealth of Brisbane Tigers is compelling, what would it take for them & the NRL to allay any concerns from Broncos, Dolphins & Titans regarding them encroaching on their turf and cannibalizing the existing teams' fanbases & revenue?

yeah he has no answer to that. The Broncos have blocked a second Brisbane team for most of their 30+ year existence but will suddenly welcome not 1 but 2 new teams on their turf....

 

[Pippen94]

Brisbane. Perth. Wellington. That's my pick for the next three teams.

Lol, pretty much everybody here on both sides agree on this, yet we spend most of the time at each other's throats..

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

You haven't disproved anything but well done "disproving" some comment I just threw out there 2, 3 years ago? I don't even care, I'm not that attached to it.

You said there's a conspiracy between the ARLC and ARU to keep rugby league out of Perth.

If that was true then the ARLC wouldn't have held so many NRL Premiership matches, NRL Nines and State of Origin games in Perth over the last decade , would they?

Can you explain why the ARLC would hold so many fixtures in Perth if they have a deal with the ARU to stay out of Western Australia?

I'm sure you'll have no answer to this because you're a moron.

yeah he has no answer to that. The Broncos have blocked a second Brisbane team for most of their 30+ year existence but will suddenly welcome not 1 but 2 new teams on their turf....

I've answered this question on multiple occasions over the months. You just don't like the answer because it doesn't line up with your delusional outlook on expansion. You only see what you want to see and ignore everything that doesn't fit your narrative.

I'll explain it for you in easy to understand language.

• The Broncos don't have any power to "block" a third Brisbane team. They have no more voting rights at ARLC meetings than the other 16 clubs. The other 16 clubs, RLPA, QRL and NSWRL also have voting rights. If the Brisbane Tigers bring in more money from broadcast rights then the majority of parties who have voting rights stand to benefit from their inclusion. They're not going to side with the Broncos on this unless blocking the Brisbane Tigers decreases broadcast revenue.
  
• News Ltd no longer have a 50% stake in the game. There are streaming services competing with News Ltd for the pay TV broadcast rights. If News Ltd threaten to pull out of the next broadcast rights process over a third Brisbane team then Stan will happily take them to boost subscriptions to their platform. It will be a disaster for Foxtel and Kayo.

I have no doubt you'll stick your fingers in your ears and say "nah, no way". It's what you do when confronted with reality.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Lol, pretty much everybody here on both sides agree on this, yet we spend most of the time at each other's throats..

To be fair, most of the hostility is instigated by @The Great Dane, @mongoose and @MugaB.

@The Great Dane gets very irate when people don't advocate for a team in Adelaide. I've seen him rip into @Perth Red for pointing out that Adelaide is light years behind Perth. Everything @Perth Red said is quantitatively true. There was no need for @The Great Dane to attack him for speaking the truth.

@mongoose thinks the Broncos and News Ltd have the controlling vote over expansion. He doesn't realise the ARLC is set up in a way to prevent one club from overriding everyone else. He also thinks it'll take another 25 years for News Ltd to give their blessing for a third Brisbane team. He bases this on no other reason than it took 25 years to get from one to two.

@MugaB is just an angry dyslexic troll. I remember him talking up the Bears as the 18th licence at one stage. Now it's a PNG team that's based in Cairns and flies all over Polynesia and Melanesia, drawing terrible crowds and getting flogged every week like the Fijian team in Super Rugby. The only reason he's behind this PNG proposal is to stir up @Perth Red and me.

 

[jim_57]

I imagine if the Jets (or some western corridor bid) combines with the Brisbane Easts bid, we might see orange & green as a color combo in the NRL.

Bring it on.

A merged bid makes sense, NRL will want some Western representation for the next Brisbane team if/when that happens.

 

[Pippen94]

Bring it on.

A merged bid makes sense, NRL will want some Western representation for the next Brisbane team if/when that happens.

If based at Springfield could still be called Ipswich jets..

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Bring it on.

A merged bid makes sense, NRL will want some Western representation for the next Brisbane team if/when that happens.

I'd be happy with that. It would secure SEQ as an impregnable rugby league market.

Don't get me wrong, part of me hopes Perth gets the 18th licence. There's a genuine desire in Perth for a team. It's an organic movement, too. It's the contrived boardroom crap that led to the creation of the GWS Giants and Gold Coast Suns. But I also want the Brisbane Tigers to get he licence so we can make it even harder for our competitors to gain any marketshare in SEQ.

If we get a team in Perth, one in Wellington and the Brisbane Tigers/Jets then we will have a footprint that is the envy of Super Rugby and a blow to AwFuL's expansion into the northern states. The last thing AwFuL and Super Rugby want to see is more competition in the SEQ market for their struggling teams. Super Rugby will be up shit creek without a paddle if the West Coast Pirates become a reality.

A team in New Zealand's capital will provide more opportunities for talent that aren't snapped up by the All Blacks. It won't hurt NZRU, but it will help our game gain some marketshare in NZ.

It will suck not having a team in Adelaide, but it won't be the end of the world. If AwFuL had to choose between having either Adelaide or SEQ as a fumbleball stronghold then they would choose the latter. We've got SEQ as a RL stronghold and now we're in a position to widen the gap between us and them.