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Mr Saab

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Stranger said:
and who bailed them out? Lockyer 9/10 times
HE SHOULDNT HAVE TO BAIL THEM OUT WE SHOULD BE UP BY 20!

And kimmorley has been the man to go to lately when we have been down.

kimmorley played 2nd fiddle to lockyer in the 2004 tri series final.
Kimmorley had a great kicking game in the final to give the team field position, but it was lockyer who set up all the tries.
What about in 2003 in the 3rd test? Australia down in the last 5 minutes and who wins the game for Australia? Lockyer. Throws the great pass to DeVere and then sets up the try for Ricketson.
 

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What about in 2003 in the 3rd test? Australia down in the last 5 minutes and who wins the game for Australia? Lockyer. Throws the great pass to DeVere and then sets up the try for Ricketson.

Didn't Stranger just say we shouldn't be in that position in the first place?
 

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Who was the man in the middle of the try in the 3rd test last year? ...... Kimmorley

Lockyer played a good 1st half in the 2004 tri-series final. Then what happened? they all died..... great captaincy. Kimmorley was the man in the games that he played this year in the tri-nations. Atleast kimmorley has a run.
 

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Johns Magic said:
What about in 2003 in the 3rd test? Australia down in the last 5 minutes and who wins the game for Australia? Lockyer. Throws the great pass to DeVere and then sets up the try for Ricketson.

Didn't Stranger just say we shouldn't be in that position in the first place?
:lol: you cant get through to this guy... hes thick as bricks
 

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Johns Magic said:
What about in 2003 in the 3rd test? Australia down in the last 5 minutes and who wins the game for Australia? Lockyer. Throws the great pass to DeVere and then sets up the try for Ricketson.

Didn't Stranger just say we shouldn't be in that position in the first place?

:roll: look at the team for crying out loud. Crocker was playing 5/8!!! A key position.
Crocker aint no Daley, Fittler, Lewis....he is Crocker!! Someone with less a passing game than Timmins!!
People have it in their minds that Australia can turn up with any team and win. GB are not mugs, especially at home.
 

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Johns Magic said:
What about in 2003 in the 3rd test? Australia down in the last 5 minutes and who wins the game for Australia? Lockyer. Throws the great pass to DeVere and then sets up the try for Ricketson.

Didn't Stranger just say we shouldn't be in that position in the first place?

Am I getting the feeling that you're suggesting that if Johns was captain of that exact same team on that tour, we would've beaten GB 3-0 and won convincingly in every game? That Johns would make 20 points difference every game just by being there?

Surely ye jest? What have you got to base that on?

Cheers.
 

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Stranger said:
Who was the man in the middle of the try in the 3rd test last year? ...... Kimmorley

Lockyer played a good 1st half in the 2004 tri-series final. Then what happened? they all died..... great captaincy. Kimmorley was the man in the games that he played this year in the tri-nations. Atleast kimmorley has a run.

yeah they all died!!
Dont talk about dying in the backend of games...Newcastle are WELL KNOWN for doing that. Building up big leads and then falling asleep.
Who leads newcastle? Johns.
You have NO F'N IDEA about league. Seriously.
 

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Charlie Saab said:
Johns Magic said:
What about in 2003 in the 3rd test? Australia down in the last 5 minutes and who wins the game for Australia? Lockyer. Throws the great pass to DeVere and then sets up the try for Ricketson.

Didn't Stranger just say we shouldn't be in that position in the first place?

:roll: look at the team for crying out loud. Crocker was playing 5/8!!! A key position.
Crocker aint no Daley, Fittler, Lewis....he is Crocker!! Someone with less a passing game than Timmins!!
People have it in their minds that Australia can turn up with any team and win. GB are not mugs, especially at home.
5/8 is not a key position if you have a great half-back........ if you want an example look at newcastle and how many we won with johns at half and rudder at 5/8
 

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Stranger said:
Charlie Saab said:
Johns Magic said:
What about in 2003 in the 3rd test? Australia down in the last 5 minutes and who wins the game for Australia? Lockyer. Throws the great pass to DeVere and then sets up the try for Ricketson.

Didn't Stranger just say we shouldn't be in that position in the first place?

:roll: look at the team for crying out loud. Crocker was playing 5/8!!! A key position.
Crocker aint no Daley, Fittler, Lewis....he is Crocker!! Someone with less a passing game than Timmins!!
People have it in their minds that Australia can turn up with any team and win. GB are not mugs, especially at home.
5/8 is not a key position if you have a great half-back........ if you want an example look at newcastle and how many we won with johns at half and rudder at 5/8

how many we won what? you won have won one GF (2001...1997 doesnt count 1/2 a comp)
 

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Charlie Saab said:
Stranger said:
Who was the man in the middle of the try in the 3rd test last year? ...... Kimmorley

Lockyer played a good 1st half in the 2004 tri-series final. Then what happened? they all died..... great captaincy. Kimmorley was the man in the games that he played this year in the tri-nations. Atleast kimmorley has a run.

yeah they all died!!
Dont talk about dying in the backend of games...Newcastle are WELL KNOWN for doing that. Building up big leads and then falling asleep.
Who leads newcastle? Johns.
You have NO F'N IDEA about league. Seriously.
Falling asleep? Naa sorry mate we are known for our catch-up footy not falling asleep. The only game that we did that was terrible was v Dogs when they had the salerycap- scandal.

And if lockyer is so damm good why did it take him till the last game to become this great player so many people think he is.
 

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Charlie Saab said:
Stranger said:
Who was the man in the middle of the try in the 3rd test last year? ...... Kimmorley

Lockyer played a good 1st half in the 2004 tri-series final. Then what happened? they all died..... great captaincy. Kimmorley was the man in the games that he played this year in the tri-nations. Atleast kimmorley has a run.

yeah they all died!!
Dont talk about dying in the backend of games...Newcastle are WELL KNOWN for doing that. Building up big leads and then falling asleep.
Who leads newcastle? Johns.
You have NO F'N IDEA about league. Seriously.

Yeah, like the 2001 Grand Final eh? Well if it's what we've gotta do to win, then I'm happy.

We sure died in round 10 this year, coming from behind scoring a try with 8 minutes to go to snatch victory against the Broncos. Oh yeah, guess what? No Joey in that game. No one to "carry" us. Yet we still beat them. Great effort that one, great effort ;-)
 

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Charlie Saab said:
Stranger said:
Charlie Saab said:
Johns Magic said:
What about in 2003 in the 3rd test? Australia down in the last 5 minutes and who wins the game for Australia? Lockyer. Throws the great pass to DeVere and then sets up the try for Ricketson.

Didn't Stranger just say we shouldn't be in that position in the first place?

:roll: look at the team for crying out loud. Crocker was playing 5/8!!! A key position.
Crocker aint no Daley, Fittler, Lewis....he is Crocker!! Someone with less a passing game than Timmins!!
People have it in their minds that Australia can turn up with any team and win. GB are not mugs, especially at home.
5/8 is not a key position if you have a great half-back........ if you want an example look at newcastle and how many we won with johns at half and rudder at 5/8

how many we won what? you won have won one GF (2001...1997 doesnt count 1/2 a comp)

When was the last time Brisbane won?
 

JW

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stranger said:
And if lockyer is so damm good why did it take him till the last game to become this great player so many people think he is.

Because he spent the previous matches out injured ;-)

Cheers.
 

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Charlie Saab said:
Stranger said:
Charlie Saab said:
Johns Magic said:
What about in 2003 in the 3rd test? Australia down in the last 5 minutes and who wins the game for Australia? Lockyer. Throws the great pass to DeVere and then sets up the try for Ricketson.

Didn't Stranger just say we shouldn't be in that position in the first place?

:roll: look at the team for crying out loud. Crocker was playing 5/8!!! A key position.
Crocker aint no Daley, Fittler, Lewis....he is Crocker!! Someone with less a passing game than Timmins!!
People have it in their minds that Australia can turn up with any team and win. GB are not mugs, especially at home.
5/8 is not a key position if you have a great half-back........ if you want an example look at newcastle and how many we won with johns at half and rudder at 5/8

how many we won what? you won have won one GF (2001...1997 doesnt count 1/2 a comp)
was talking about games :roll: . We won so many games including big games with rudder...... Rudder is the worst 5/8 ever.. want a fact Newcastle were offered money to take him back :lol:

Surely we could beat the pommies with crocker... Crocker is twice the player rudder is and that aint saying much.
 

Mr Saab

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Stranger said:
Charlie Saab said:
Stranger said:
Who was the man in the middle of the try in the 3rd test last year? ...... Kimmorley

Lockyer played a good 1st half in the 2004 tri-series final. Then what happened? they all died..... great captaincy. Kimmorley was the man in the games that he played this year in the tri-nations. Atleast kimmorley has a run.

yeah they all died!!
Dont talk about dying in the backend of games...Newcastle are WELL KNOWN for doing that. Building up big leads and then falling asleep.
Who leads newcastle? Johns.
You have NO F'N IDEA about league. Seriously.
Falling asleep? Naa sorry mate we are known for our catch-up footy not falling asleep. The only game that we did that was terrible was v Dogs when they had the salerycap- scandal.

And if lockyer is so damm good why did it take him till the last game to become this great player so many people think he is.

lockyer has been well known for being a great plater. He has been since 1997.
Newcaslte ALWAYS fall asleep in the back end of games. THAT is a well known aspect re the knights. Ask any knowledgable person on league.
How old are you... 12? You know nothing about the history of newcastle and the way they play
 

Stranger

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JW said:
stranger said:
And if lockyer is so damm good why did it take him till the last game to become this great player so many people think he is.

Because he spent the previous matches out injured ;-)

Cheers.
But he also played previous matches. ;-)
 

Mr Saab

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Johns Magic said:
Charlie Saab said:
Stranger said:
Charlie Saab said:
Johns Magic said:
What about in 2003 in the 3rd test? Australia down in the last 5 minutes and who wins the game for Australia? Lockyer. Throws the great pass to DeVere and then sets up the try for Ricketson.

Didn't Stranger just say we shouldn't be in that position in the first place?

:roll: look at the team for crying out loud. Crocker was playing 5/8!!! A key position.
Crocker aint no Daley, Fittler, Lewis....he is Crocker!! Someone with less a passing game than Timmins!!
People have it in their minds that Australia can turn up with any team and win. GB are not mugs, especially at home.
5/8 is not a key position if you have a great half-back........ if you want an example look at newcastle and how many we won with johns at half and rudder at 5/8

how many we won what? you won have won one GF (2001...1997 doesnt count 1/2 a comp)

When was the last time Brisbane won?

dont go their. you wont win that debate.
4 comps since 1988 compared to one to the knights (1997 is a write off yr)
Out of 17 yrs they have been in the comp they have misssed the semis in 1988 89 91.
Minor premiers 1992 and 2000
Won from 5th place in 1993

brisbane have it all over newcastle
 

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Charlie Saab said:
Stranger said:
Charlie Saab said:
Stranger said:
Who was the man in the middle of the try in the 3rd test last year? ...... Kimmorley

Lockyer played a good 1st half in the 2004 tri-series final. Then what happened? they all died..... great captaincy. Kimmorley was the man in the games that he played this year in the tri-nations. Atleast kimmorley has a run.

yeah they all died!!
Dont talk about dying in the backend of games...Newcastle are WELL KNOWN for doing that. Building up big leads and then falling asleep.
Who leads newcastle? Johns.
You have NO F'N IDEA about league. Seriously.
Falling asleep? Naa sorry mate we are known for our catch-up footy not falling asleep. The only game that we did that was terrible was v Dogs when they had the salerycap- scandal.

And if lockyer is so damm good why did it take him till the last game to become this great player so many people think he is.

lockyer has been well known for being a great plater. He has been since 1997.
Newcaslte ALWAYS fall asleep in the back end of games. THAT is a well known aspect re the knights. Ask any knowledgable person on league.
How old are you... 12? You know nothing about the history of newcastle and the way they play
Yeah we fall asleep Like the way we fell asleep v the dogs this year winning 36-6 was it.. Fell asleep big time
 
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