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Coaching preference for 2024

What are you hoping for in our next coaching appointment?

  • Rookie Coach

    Votes: 21 14.5%
  • Premiership Winning Coach

    Votes: 105 72.4%
  • NRL Experience coach with no Premiership wins

    Votes: 6 4.1%
  • Coach from Overseas

    Votes: 5 3.4%
  • Extend Current coach

    Votes: 8 5.5%

  • Total voters
    145

Illusion

Bench
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If it's Ryles, the millionaires need to sort it out in the way millionaires sort it out.
Just got a gut feeling again , about Young , they will tell us Ryles wanted 5 years and the pay out was a lot , and Hornby cant get out of his contract ...... Flanno and Des are old school need fresh ideas as we tried old school with Hook , so it leaves Young , on a 2 year deal and ready to go .........
 
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In regards to Ryles, are you supporters 100% sold on him as a coach?
I only ask because the narrative about Bellamy staying on one more year at the Storm is because the players asked him to.
If Ryles is available, and it looks like he is, wouldn't the players he has actually been involved with in coaching for a fair few years (The Storm), be very open to having him there and not begging Bellamy to stay on?
I dont know anything about it, just my thoughts as to why Ryles doesn't seem to be wanted at The Storm. He did leave them for RU, then the Roosters.
 

dannyt

Coach
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In regards to Ryles, are you supporters 100% sold on him as a coach?
I only ask because the narrative about Bellamy staying on one more year at the Storm is because the players asked him to.
If Ryles is available, and it looks like he is, wouldn't the players he has actually been involved with in coaching for a fair few years (The Storm), be very open to having him there and not begging Bellamy to stay on?
I dont know anything about it, just my thoughts as to why Ryles doesn't seem to be wanted at The Storm. He did leave them for RU, then the Roosters.
Good questions.

-I think Ryles may have a lot to offer, similar to Fitzgibbon. Ultimately, we have no say in the matter.
-If you were a player, wouldn't you prefer to have Bellamy as coach? From Bellamy's interview last night, it seemed Munster was the main voice in his ear.
-Perhaps the fact he left the storm to go to union, then returned to the roosters, may be part of the reason why he's not wanted at the storm, coupled with having Bellamy agreeing to continue coaching.

P.S. "You're a sexy woman Flo".
 
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Good questions.

-I think Ryles may have a lot to offer, similar to Fitzgibbon. Ultimately, we have no say in the matter.
-If you were a player, wouldn't you prefer to have Bellamy as coach? From Bellamy's interview last night, it seemed Munster was the main voice in his ear.
-Perhaps the fact he left the storm to go to union, then returned to the roosters, may be part of the reason why he's not wanted at the storm, coupled with having Bellamy agreeing to continue coaching.
Or, they may be more in tune with having Slater as their next coach. Which isn't saying anything bad against Ryles, just that Slater may be the better fit for them.
 

dannyt

Coach
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Or, they may be more in tune with having Slater as their next coach. Which isn't saying anything bad against Ryles, just that Slater may be the better fit for them.
Could be, but that's a risk considering he's only coached at origin. NRL is very different. I do hope that Melbourne have the same success with an old boy coach as we have. Ryles has been away for a long time, as was Fitzgibbon, so perhaps that could work. I just hope it's not Young.
 

SaintPauli

Juniors
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Without offending Ryles, I think Bellamy is holding the fort for Slater in a couple of years. Dragons appointing Ryles for 5 years with reported full autonomy is okay, though must be performance based. I still think Flano is best option with a 2-3 year contract. Also I don't think Ryles is a shoe-in as Ryan Webb just announced they are 3-4 weeks from a coach announcement.
 
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In regards to Ryles, are you supporters 100% sold on him as a coach?
I only ask because the narrative about Bellamy staying on one more year at the Storm is because the players asked him to.
If Ryles is available, and it looks like he is, wouldn't the players he has actually been involved with in coaching for a fair few years (The Storm), be very open to having him there and not begging Bellamy to stay on?
I dont know anything about it, just my thoughts as to why Ryles doesn't seem to be wanted at The Storm. He did leave them for RU, then the Roosters.

Great post.

In the broad, I don’t think our sgi friends are 100% behind Ryles for a 5 year stretch with full powers.

I think they are willing to give him a go for 2 or 3 years on the basis of progress and helping recruit good players. This is because he is inexperienced and they don’t want to be caught if he’s a flop. They’ve had enough of it.

They are not too comfortable with ongoing delays caused by Ryles carry on and wishes.

The coach of sgi is a job of considerable esteem and status, they don’t like to be seen grovelling.
They are not second string to the storm. They don’t care about the storm.

I think their best interests are served with Hasler. I think it’s a presence thing as well.

I also think had Hook had a better roster, he could have done more, but I have to move on.

Everyone is hoping for an extended honeymoon period now Hook is gone and his program binned.
 

macca_saint

Juniors
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215
Under no circumstances should they agree to 5 years for Ryles - he is totally untested. Whoever they sign must be able to attract talent to the club without costing overs and/or the ability to develop juniors otherwise they will fail. I'm not convinced Ryles could do this.
Knowing our board and how desperate we are, I have no doubt that George Mimis will milk us dry
 
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Ryles or Madge 👍

I didn’t think Madge showed enough in improving players as individuals. Some clicked, most stayed the same and some got worse under his tenure.
That said, as an individual with integrity he’s second to none.

Des is good with younger players. He helped turn Turbo into an art form before his injuries.

He likes big forwards playing an aggressive meaty style.

His recruitment is generally sound.

Its hard to recall a time where the base vanilla Manly 17 could be totally written off.

He hasn’t always read the room or the club stuff right, but until we hear his side, we just go on impressions.

I don’t think 3 years of Des could be criticised too widely.

He’s almost certain to be picked up by another club otherwise.

He may not solve every problem but he’s a good start.

He’s an extremely competitive person. He won’t rest in any effort. He’s very nice away from the game. That’s what you need.
 

BLM01

First Grade
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In regards to Ryles, are you supporters 100% sold on him as a coach?
I only ask because the narrative about Bellamy staying on one more year at the Storm is because the players asked him to.
If Ryles is available, and it looks like he is, wouldn't the players he has actually been involved with in coaching for a fair few years (The Storm), be very open to having him there and not begging Bellamy to stay on?
I dont know anything about it, just my thoughts as to why Ryles doesn't seem to be wanted at The Storm. He did leave them for RU, then the Roosters.
No I am not behind it 💯
Big risk..especially where we are
look at Barrett and he was supposedly a gun assistant too
 

BLM01

First Grade
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In regards to Ryles, are you supporters 100% sold on him as a coach?
I only ask because the narrative about Bellamy staying on one more year at the Storm is because the players asked him to.
If Ryles is available, and it looks like he is, wouldn't the players he has actually been involved with in coaching for a fair few years (The Storm), be very open to having him there and not begging Bellamy to stay on?
I dont know anything about it, just my thoughts as to why Ryles doesn't seem to be wanted at The Storm. He did leave them for RU, then the Roosters.
It is a worry
 

Blood Shot Eyes

First Grade
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Im not convinced Ryles is the best option atm...we need someone with experience (not in the Hook mould) that will be his own man rather than a board puppet ....I don't believe a rookie coach can turn this mess around sooner rather than later, ( I don't mean a miracle worker either) also if needed would be able to attract off contract quality players and or someone that will have the ability to develop our youngsters within our club..... and if all reports are correct then I certainly dont agree he should be offered a 5 year deal.....I would hate to think we ended up with another Mary....and on a personal note I shudder to think if Young was offered the gig......having said all this when Griffin got the job I was in total support....it's a tough one tbh and not an easy appointment....weve appointed 3 duds so to speak since Bennett I don't think this club could survive with a 4th
 

Dragon David

First Grade
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I didn’t think Madge showed enough in improving players as individuals. Some clicked, most stayed the same and some got worse under his tenure.
That said, as an individual with integrity he’s second to none.

Des is good with younger players. He helped turn Turbo into an art form before his injuries.

He likes big forwards playing an aggressive meaty style.

His recruitment is generally sound.

Its hard to recall a time where the base vanilla Manly 17 could be totally written off.

He hasn’t always read the room or the club stuff right, but until we hear his side, we just go on impressions.

I don’t think 3 years of Des could be criticised too widely.

He’s almost certain to be picked up by another club otherwise.

He may not solve every problem but he’s a good start.

He’s an extremely competitive person. He won’t rest in any effort. He’s very nice away from the game. That’s what you need.
It's the effort that a coach and the players combined need to put in to improve the Dragons.

More effective effort will go a long way.

The coach needs control. He determines how the team as a whole needs to play as a team in all facets of the game. He needs to understand in depth the rules and regulations and know how to bend or tweak a few. He has got to be able to do good analysis of the opposition, set winning game plans after establishing strengths and weaknesses of opposition teams. He needs to be a strong motivator and mentor and be understanding and prepared to listen to the players and other assistants.

Rookie coaches have to start from scratch when they go from assistants to the head coach. They all did at one stage of their careers - the likes of Bellamy being an assistant under Bennett is an example of so many. Those former assistant coaches that show ability like Fitzy, Webster, Ciraldo etc got their chances and are doing pretty good so far. Some are so so and some not able to get a head coaching gig, but they are the breaks in sport.

I sense that the Dragons have been working on a replacement for some time and hopefully they are almost to the point that they have made a decision. That decision would be a really hard one to make and they would need to have fall back options on the basis that the first choice might change his mind. Who they select and eventually sign up on whatever deal that best suits the club and the future coach is so important as I'm sure that any further failings will see the Joint Venture more than a laughing stock and there will be no chance of any resurrection.

Ryles I think is still umming and arring. I don't know if Hasler has even been approached. Flanno has said he hasn't been approached, Hornby is doing well as Demetriou's assistant and to me they will make the grand final so it's hard to see him leaving Souths just to be an assistant. Maybe he could be the one that the Board has in mind to go for. Dean Young, I'd leave out. I've seen a Ryles/Hornby/Young combination possibility which could work, but there are too many agendas in getting all three at once.

I just hope that the Board knows what they are doing and who they are after and will get. Don't create another mess for heavens sake.
 

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