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Coaching preference for 2024

What are you hoping for in our next coaching appointment?

  • Rookie Coach

    Votes: 21 14.5%
  • Premiership Winning Coach

    Votes: 105 72.4%
  • NRL Experience coach with no Premiership wins

    Votes: 6 4.1%
  • Coach from Overseas

    Votes: 5 3.4%
  • Extend Current coach

    Votes: 8 5.5%

  • Total voters
    145

Mojo

Bench
Messages
4,124
I’m feeling a bit devil’s advocate today so I’m going to attempt to articulate why Dean Young need not be a wrist-slitting choice. * braces for impact *

* His teammates have always pegged him as a future coach. I remember a player survey in 09 or 10 asking players which teammate would most likely become a coach and our answer was like 90% Dean Young. From his playing days I recall one moment in particular when he gave Corey Payne an almighty, and warranted, spray for bludging on the blind side. He didn’t miss.

* The mental toughness he displayed to return from horrific injury and illness during his playing career was extraordinary and earns him all measure of respect. Here’s some quotes from Wayne Bennett the day Young retired. Now, these quotes do not come from a vested interested, or some ulterior motive to undermine the club or anything. There was nothing to gain from them other than to pay respect to Young:

"And this is why I want to do this article," Bennett continued, "because Dean Young was my inspiration."


"As a coach, you can't let him down because Dean Young never found an excuse in his life. And he had a bloody good excuse to retire in 2006 when he got that (golden staph) after that knee operation.



"The doctor told him he'd never play again - but excuses aren't a part of his genetic makeup.



"They just don't exist in Dean's life. There are a lot of wonderful blokes in that club but let me tell you, he is the heartbeat.


"I mean, no-one will ever know what sort of pain he had to go through and the mental toughness it took to continue . . . but having worked with him for three years, I saw what he went through every day.


"I have an untold respect for what he did. People talk about pain being a bit of discomfort. In the end this guy couldn't train until Saturday - and could only do the last 15 or 20 minutes.

"And I want to tell you this, too. We haven't heard the last of Dean Young - because one day we'll all be calling him coach. You heard it here first."


* Success at Cowboys. As assistant coach he helped the Cowboys reach the prelim final last year, but aside from that he helped previously unsung or unheralded players reach their potential. Here’s a quote from former Cowboy Tom Gilbert who made his Origin debut while a Cowboy in 2022

Cowboys’ assistant coach Young, who won a premiership with St George Illawarra in 2010, was a no-nonsense and team-first player who has been a role model for Gilbert.

“The way Deano played and conducts himself epitomises the kind of person I want to be,” Gilbert said.

“He is very switched-on and hard working. He was not the flashiest player but his dedication to being good at the small things was second-to-none and that’s why he had such a successful career.


“I have tried to learn from him and mimic some of those habits the best I can.”

*
Communication style. There’s a clip here of him mic’d up at a Cowboys session, and what I like about the way he coaches here – the way he teaches – is that he asks the players for answers rather than just dictating. He engages them to make sure they know what they’re doing and why instead of just quietly going through the motions. I’m sure this approach is why Reece Robson approaches him at the end to chat more and ask questions (Robson – btw another player whose career has now improved to the point of getting an Origin jersey).

* L plater coach? Perhaps. But he’s been an NRL assistant since 2015 in different environments, has also been an assistant for the Tonga national team since 2019 (in November 2019, Tonga defeated the Kangaroos – the first team aside from NZ or Britain to beat Australia in 41 years).

* Our players. Being an assistant, then an interim coach before Griffin came here knows many of our players already – even the young ones. Guess which coach gave Bud Sullivan his NRL debut?

* Cheating. He's never been banned for cheating


[DISCLAIMER - FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES ONLY. THE AUTHOR IS IN NO WAY AFFILIATED WITH THE DEAN YOUNG CAMP AND IS MERELY TRYING TO FIND THE BRIGHT SIDE]
Thanks. Very objective. I appreciate your caution. Some people love to attach an agenda to things they read in here.
 

Slippery Morris

First Grade
Messages
7,895
I’m feeling a bit devil’s advocate today so I’m going to attempt to articulate why Dean Young need not be a wrist-slitting choice. * braces for impact *

* His teammates have always pegged him as a future coach. I remember a player survey in 09 or 10 asking players which teammate would most likely become a coach and our answer was like 90% Dean Young. From his playing days I recall one moment in particular when he gave Corey Payne an almighty, and warranted, spray for bludging on the blind side. He didn’t miss.

* The mental toughness he displayed to return from horrific injury and illness during his playing career was extraordinary and earns him all measure of respect. Here’s some quotes from Wayne Bennett the day Young retired. Now, these quotes do not come from a vested interested, or some ulterior motive to undermine the club or anything. There was nothing to gain from them other than to pay respect to Young:

"And this is why I want to do this article," Bennett continued, "because Dean Young was my inspiration."


"As a coach, you can't let him down because Dean Young never found an excuse in his life. And he had a bloody good excuse to retire in 2006 when he got that (golden staph) after that knee operation.



"The doctor told him he'd never play again - but excuses aren't a part of his genetic makeup.



"They just don't exist in Dean's life. There are a lot of wonderful blokes in that club but let me tell you, he is the heartbeat.


"I mean, no-one will ever know what sort of pain he had to go through and the mental toughness it took to continue . . . but having worked with him for three years, I saw what he went through every day.


"I have an untold respect for what he did. People talk about pain being a bit of discomfort. In the end this guy couldn't train until Saturday - and could only do the last 15 or 20 minutes.

"And I want to tell you this, too. We haven't heard the last of Dean Young - because one day we'll all be calling him coach. You heard it here first."


* Success at Cowboys. As assistant coach he helped the Cowboys reach the prelim final last year, but aside from that he helped previously unsung or unheralded players reach their potential. Here’s a quote from former Cowboy Tom Gilbert who made his Origin debut while a Cowboy in 2022

Cowboys’ assistant coach Young, who won a premiership with St George Illawarra in 2010, was a no-nonsense and team-first player who has been a role model for Gilbert.

“The way Deano played and conducts himself epitomises the kind of person I want to be,” Gilbert said.

“He is very switched-on and hard working. He was not the flashiest player but his dedication to being good at the small things was second-to-none and that’s why he had such a successful career.


“I have tried to learn from him and mimic some of those habits the best I can.”

*
Communication style. There’s a clip here of him mic’d up at a Cowboys session, and what I like about the way he coaches here – the way he teaches – is that he asks the players for answers rather than just dictating. He engages them to make sure they know what they’re doing and why instead of just quietly going through the motions. I’m sure this approach is why Reece Robson approaches him at the end to chat more and ask questions (Robson – btw another player whose career has now improved to the point of getting an Origin jersey).

* L plater coach? Perhaps. But he’s been an NRL assistant since 2015 in different environments, has also been an assistant for the Tonga national team since 2019 (in November 2019, Tonga defeated the Kangaroos – the first team aside from NZ or Britain to beat Australia in 41 years).

* Our players. Being an assistant, then an interim coach before Griffin came here knows many of our players already – even the young ones. Guess which coach gave Bud Sullivan his NRL debut?

* Cheating. He's never been banned for cheating


[DISCLAIMER - FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES ONLY. THE AUTHOR IS IN NO WAY AFFILIATED WITH THE DEAN YOUNG CAMP AND IS MERELY TRYING TO FIND THE BRIGHT SIDE]
I loved this post Victorie. It was a good insight into Dean Young and certainly makes me see a bright side to having Young as coach. I hope he does come back to Saints in some capacity sooner rather than later.
 

Dragon David

First Grade
Messages
9,325
It’s still possible for the board that has screwed up every coaching and football department appointment since 2012 to screw this one up. Extremely possible.
Boy oh boy, we have managed to get through 12 years so far of the screw ups this Board has made since Bennett left us. Thankfully I am still here on this planet in mind, body and soul though now struggling and like us all just waiting for the journey to take us into the next chapter.

We as Dragons die hards cannot accept any further monumental failures dished up by the decisions made by the Board and the coaching fraternity. We have been frustratingly patient in waiting for the day that we could say that we achieved what we have wanted and that is to make the grand final once again.

Will their announcement this week or next be the one most of us want as it will be the most crucial and critical one that the Board would need to make going forward. We don't want a maybe he will do OK coach, we want a coach that will be inspiring and will be a leader for the squads throughout the club and emphatic with winning as the driving force for the players.

He needs to be a great man manager, disciplinarian, skilled and respected. In other words a person who CAN get the job done.

We know that the task at hand will be tough for any coach whether highly experienced or not. It won't be easy, we know, but at the same time we know what a good coach is and so the Board should also know this and they have to make sure that this time their decisions have to be right on the money.

Can I bullshit or what? hahaha!
 
Messages
17,212
Posturing? You're a classic! You initially accused me of stating my opinions as facts. When I ask you to not make such false assertions, you reply by saying that I'm merely stating opinions. Of course there's no evidence of a club appointing a HC 'on probation' because, as I opined, no club would ever do so and no HC would accept the position on that basis. I disagree with you and I'm glad you don't care. I'll ignore you from now on. Cheers.

Ffs, calm down!

You decided it was a good policy to kick out at me for no reason and I pointed out that on your reasoning you were guilty of the same offence you were accusing me of.

I’m sure my views on anything to do with the saga are not going to change anyone else’s. That’s my expectation. A lot of friends here have very different views to mine. The rich tapestry of forum democracy.

So I’m not going to ignore you even if I disagree with you!

Chill and enjoy the show.

We are all excited and happy for the big day.
 
Messages
17,212
Camera flashes going up off everywhere, journos talking over each other.

A press release drafted up over the long weekend.

They use previous new coaches and change the names and dates.

The club anoints. Big day!
 

mattchuot

Juniors
Messages
130
How do we know it's today? Maybe I missed an earlier announcement
The board has their recurring meeting every second Tuesday. Ryan Webb said 2 weeks ago that the club will reach a decision within the fortnight. So you would assume a decision would be made today. Whether that results in an official announcement from the club or just “confirmation” by media is yet to be seen.
 
Messages
295
Boy oh boy, we have managed to get through 12 years so far of the screw ups this Board has made since Bennett left us. Thankfully I am still here on this planet in mind, body and soul though now struggling and like us all just waiting for the journey to take us into the next chapter.

We as Dragons die hards cannot accept any further monumental failures dished up by the decisions made by the Board and the coaching fraternity. We have been frustratingly patient in waiting for the day that we could say that we achieved what we have wanted and that is to make the grand final once again.

Will their announcement this week or next be the one most of us want as it will be the most crucial and critical one that the Board would need to make going forward. We don't want a maybe he will do OK coach, we want a coach that will be inspiring and will be a leader for the squads throughout the club and emphatic with winning as the driving force for the players.

He needs to be a great man manager, disciplinarian, skilled and respected. In other words a person who CAN get the job done.

We know that the task at hand will be tough for any coach whether highly experienced or not. It won't be easy, we know, but at the same time we know what a good coach is and so the Board should also know this and they have to make sure that this time their decisions have to be right on the money.

Can I bullshit or what? hahaha!
Also a coach with a bit of flair.
 

dannyt

Coach
Messages
14,491
Done deal. Board agreed on Shane Flanagan
This is behind a paywall: https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/dr...-as-no-1-coaching-target-20230613-p5dg6c.html

This is what I managed to copy:
Dragons board rubber-stamp Flanagan as No.1 coaching target


Shane Flanagan has cleared the most significant hurdle in his bid to be Dragons coach after the joint-venture’s board voted unanimously to offer the premiership-winning mentor a deal for next season and beyond.

The St George Illawarra board met on Tuesday to discuss the vacant coaching position, with Flanagan now deemed the club’s preferred candidate after meeting with officials recently.


Terms of a deal are still to be negotiated but Flanagan has made no secret of his desire to return to the NRL coaching ranks in charge of the Red V.

More to come.
 
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