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Commission to outlaw 'shoulder charge'

Should the Shoulder Charge be banned?


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Pugzley

Guest
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f**k you St George fans and f**k you Telecrap. Just f**k you and your hysterical bullshit that led up to this.
 

Springs

First Grade
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5,682
Outlaw the tackle. I got knocked out from a simple tackle this year when my head hit the ground. It should be illegal too. Get rid of the goal posts cause if you hit them you get injured. Replace every ground with marshmellow. Make the ball foam. It hurts when you get hit in the head with it.

Honestly, a hard, shoulder-driven tackle that drives you into the ground usually hurts more than a shoulder charge.

And now I bet we see a ton of bullshit penalties for any big collision or tackle when someone bounces away, even when a shoulder was never involved.
 

BunniesMan

Immortal
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33,700
If you people are so into violence f**k off and watch MMA. Rugby League is not about its warriors having a significantly reduced life experience by allowing unnecessary and dangerous acts.

If you love the shoulder charge why stop there. Why not campaign for allowing defenders to stop ball carriers with knee charges. Or elbow charges.

Defending is about tackling. Pure and simple. Tackling is done with the arms. Anything without the arms including the shoulder charge is poor technique, inefficient, ineffective and most importantly, unnecessarily dangerous.

If you people think this will mean the "death" of RL, you're out of your minds. The game is so much bigger than the shoulder charge. And if you don't understand that, you don't understand the game.
 

Hutty1986

Immortal
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34,034
f**k you St George fans and f**k you Telecrap. Just f**k you and your hysterical bullshit that led up to this.

if you had a quarter of something resembling a brain, youd realise the outcry was against...wait for it...illegal shoulder charges. banning the shoulder charge is fcking ridiculous. terrible decision.
 

Springs

First Grade
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5,682
If you people are so into violence f**k off and watch MMA. Rugby League is not about its warriors having a significantly reduced life experience by allowing unnecessary and dangerous acts.

If you love the shoulder charge why stop there. Why not campaign for allowing defenders to stop ball carriers with knee charges. Or elbow charges.

Defending is about tackling. Pure and simple. Tackling is done with the arms. Anything without the arms including the shoulder charge is poor technique, inefficient, ineffective and most importantly, unnecessarily dangerous.

If you people think this will mean the "death" of RL, you're out of your minds. The game is so much bigger than the shoulder charge. And if you don't understand that, you don't understand the game.

You are so f**king geniused it's hard to believe.

You do know that tackling hurts right? We should f**k that off too. A good tackle uses the shoulder. We'll see how many stupid penalties we get next year which are actually brilliant tackles but the refs react too cautiously to the new rule.
 

applesauce

Bench
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3,573
This is the biggest thing:
- that the average G-force of the shoulder charge (measured from accelerometer data taken from GPS tracking) was 76% greater than a conventional head-on tackle (10.682 compared to 6.056).

If anyone has their head around American sports there is a real possibility that the NFL may cease to exist within 10-15yrs. CTE as a result of head trauma is killing players, causing depression, suicide, early onset alzheiers and reducing intelligence and cognitive function.

Over 3000 lawsuits (and growing by the day) are already in front of the courts and could bring the largest sporting competition in the world to it's knees. The ARLC can not be seen to neglect the safety of its employees.
 

Parra Pride

Referee
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20,290
If you people are so into violence f**k off and watch MMA. Rugby League is not about its warriors having a significantly reduced life experience by allowing unnecessary and dangerous acts.

If you love the shoulder charge why stop there. Why not campaign for allowing defenders to stop ball carriers with knee charges. Or elbow charges.

Defending is about tackling. Pure and simple. Tackling is done with the arms. Anything without the arms including the shoulder charge is poor technique, inefficient, ineffective and most importantly, unnecessarily dangerous.

If you people think this will mean the "death" of RL, you're out of your minds. The game is so much bigger than the shoulder charge. And if you don't understand that, you don't understand the game.

f**k off you stupid merkin, any good defender leads with the shoulder, we're going to see so many bullshit penalties given for great tackles out of this. Someone like Joel Edwards, who is good for nothing other than making a good, hard tackle can say goodbye to his usefulness with this rule.
 

Fire

First Grade
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I've hardly been the commissions biggest fan. I've been critical of them when they've deserved. But I should praise them when they earn it. This is one of those times.

Good riddance. Our great game does not need the shoulder charge. It will go on just fine without the shoulder charge. The should charge is archaic and outdated in the 21st century. I applaud the ARLC for making this tough decision which will surely come with plenty of geniused criticism from idiots who want RL to be MMA.

Good to see you're a member of the "Gay Pride World Wide" movement, androtrop.
 

BunniesMan

Immortal
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if you had a quarter of something resembling a brain, youd realise the outcry was against...wait for it...illegal shoulder charges. banning the shoulder charge is fcking ridiculous. terrible decision.
Noone goes in with the intention of deliberately doing an illegal shoulder charge. 100% of the illegal shoulder charges i've seen in the NRL came as a result of attempted legal shoulder charges.

The whole thing must go. It has gone. The ARLC should be applauded.
You are so f**king geniused it's hard to believe.

You do know that tackling hurts right? We should f**k that off too. A good tackle uses the shoulder. We'll see how many stupid penalties we get next year which are actually brilliant tackles but the refs react too cautiously to the new rule.
You could walk outside, slip, hit your head, and die. There is danger in everything we do. There will always be danger in rugby league. But some of it is necessary danger. And some of it is unnecessary danger. Shoulder charges fall into the latter category.

As you say proper tackles can be brilliant. And we won't lose them.
 

Usain Bolt

Bench
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3,731
Decision purely comes down to $$$

NRL doesn't want to be in the position of the NFL fighting hundreds of lawsuits from former players once their careers are over.
 

Dragonwest

Juniors
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1,710
Physical Intimidation can be a significant factor in the momentum of game.

Rugby League is poorer for this decision.
 

Fire

First Grade
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9,669
Noone goes in with the intention of deliberately doing an illegal shoulder charge. 100% of the illegal shoulder charges i've seen in the NRL came as a result of attempted legal shoulder charges.

The whole thing must go. It has gone. The ARLC should be applauded.

You could walk outside, slip, hit your head, and die. There is danger in everything we do. There will always be danger in rugby league. But some of it is necessary danger. And some of it is unnecessary danger. Shoulder charges fall into the latter category.

As you say proper tackles can be brilliant. And we won't lose them.

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BunniesMan

Immortal
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33,700
This is the biggest thing:


If anyone has their head around American sports there is a real possibility that the NFL may cease to exist within 10-15yrs. CTE as a result of head trauma is killing players, causing depression, suicide, early onset alzheiers and reducing intelligence and cognitive function.

Over 3000 lawsuits (and growing by the day) are already in front of the courts and could bring the largest sporting competition in the world to it's knees. The ARLC can not be seen to neglect the safety of its employees.
Exactly. I agree with every word of this but the blood thirsty morons that make up the majority of LU imagine this is the 70s. They don't care about the long term. They just love being turned on by some poor bloke who has no idea where he is rolling around on the ground.
 

Springs

First Grade
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5,682
Noone goes in with the intention of deliberately doing an illegal shoulder charge. 100% of the illegal shoulder charges i've seen in the NRL came as a result of attempted legal shoulder charges.

The whole thing must go. It has gone. The ARLC should be applauded.

You could walk outside, slip, hit your head, and die. There is danger in everything we do. There will always be danger in rugby league. But some of it is necessary danger. And some of it is unnecessary danger. Shoulder charges fall into the latter category.

As you say proper tackles can be brilliant. And we won't lose them.

99.99% of the illegal tackles I've seen came as a result of attempted legal tackles. The whole thing must go :roll:

Tell me, if someone goes in for a legal tackle, hits shoulder first and the ball runner bounces away on impact before the tackler can wrap his arms around, should that be a penalty?
 

joshreading

Moderator
Staff member
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1,720
Surely there is a way that can challenge this decision?

Why has one investigation been taken without any formal
survey of players and fans?

This is actually a significant change in RL. One of the key factors that
sets Rugby League apart from Union is the shoulder charge.

The reason RL is directly compared with NFL on Youtube is the shoulder
charge. It is one of the key distinctions we have.

The NFL has the spirally forward pass and the big Hit
The AFL has the big mark
Soccer has the bending goals or scissor kicks.

What does Rugby League have that set it DISTINCTIVELY apart from
Rugby Union? We have the play the ball - seriously is that it? We have
a Ten metre, which gives some more room but little that distinguishes us
as tougher or more spectacular.
 
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