Crowd Watch 2014 part 2

[POPEYE]

So it seems the writing is on the wall at campbelltown for games. Although they could have given the ground a stronger allocation if this season was a litmus test for future allocations. Cowboys, storm, Broncos and raiders is really not going to result many more than 15k at Any sydney ground, so I'm that respect its a bit unfair of Mayer.

Would anyone hazard a guess where the bulk of the franchise's fans live? Perhaps anz and leichardt only as grounds would suit the majority of the fanbase.

Imo the 6k at Campbelltown is disastrous when you consider the huge expanding area the Tigers fan base encompasses. The fact that most supporters would expect their team to beat the Cowboys and perpetuate the roll-on is even more reason to be in attendance.

The only saving grace is the fact that atop most roofs in this satellite area is a Foxtell satellite disc, a barbecue in the backyard and no police radar. Smart having Leichhardt on Sunday arvo with Gus

 

[BuffaloRules]

So it seems the writing is on the wall at campbelltown for games. Although they could have given the ground a stronger allocation if this season was a litmus test for future allocations. Cowboys, storm, Broncos and raiders is really not going to result many more than 15k at Any sydney ground, so I'm that respect its a bit unfair of Mayer.

Would anyone hazard a guess where the bulk of the franchise's fans live? Perhaps anz and leichardt only as grounds would suit the majority of the fanbase.

As a Tigers fan, I want to see them persevere with Campbelltown. The long term future of the club relies on them engaging the area.

It is a bit of a furphy though to blame the opponents. Over the past 4 seasons they have had 8 Sydney rivals compared to Leichhardt 5, and Dogs, Parra and Penrith have all played there in front of small crowds recently.

 

[BunniesMan]

How does the future of the Tigers rely on them "engaging" the area? They have a first shot at all the juniors from there, they're doing a good job at finding that talent with so many players from the area making it to first grade, what more do they need from that area specifically? Their crowds at ANZ and Leichhardt prove they have a good fanbase in greater Sydney, they don't need anything from Campbelltown besides juniors.

 

[BuffaloRules]

How does the future of the Tigers rely on them "engaging" the area? They have a first shot at all the juniors from there, they're doing a good job at finding that talent with so many players from the area making it to first grade, what more do they need from that area specifically? Their crowds at ANZ and Leichhardt prove they have a good fanbase in greater Sydney, they don't need anything from Campbelltown besides juniors.

For now you dope.

What about 20-30 years time?

The South West of Sydney is a large rapidly going area with no other team based there.
Why can't there be expectations of them getting 20k crowds there eventually.

What else are the locals going to do, watch Soccer or AFL instead?

 

[georgesnmith]

very poor crowd

nice ground,with a train station basically adjoining the ground and the leagues club right behind it

nice set up.

tigers are a very good side, their forwards are brilliant, though their backs were poor last night

 

[BunniesMan]

The Panthers are in the other rapidly developing area of Sydney, they also get among the worst crowds in the comp.

The era of distant suburban stadiums is coming to a close. Campbelltown will never have anything but the worst fixtures, and as the Tigers CEO said they might not even have that for long.

The problem with these "rapidly growing" areas is they're growing because of people moving from other parts of Sydney. In the south west and in Penrith there are plenty of Souths and Dragons and Eels fans. The era of clubs getting by only on the fans that live closest to them is over. The successful clubs appeal to fans in every corner of Sydney.

 

[BuffaloRules]

They have got 20K there in the past to watch the Tigers.

The Wests Tigers best crowd there was against the Cowboys in 2005.

I can't see why they can't again, particularly with the exciting young team they will have to follow over the next couple of years.

 

[Cumberland Throw]

That crowd at Campbelltown is not acceptable for a serious professional competition

 

[georgesnmith]

#houstonwehaveaproblem

 

[DC_fan]

So why have people stopped attending NRL games?

Let me tell you of my experience in the two most recent games I have attended. While they may only appear to be minor, if they happen often it can be enough to turn some fans off from attending games.

Two weeks ago I was at ANZ to see Souths play Canberra. I got there about 12.15pm. The Holden Cup game had been going for about 30 mins. I was feeling thirsty/hungry, so I went to buy something. To my surprise I found no food/drink outlet open for business. I was told they would not open till 1.45. Which is an hour after the kick off to the U-20's. I can only imagine what it would have been like for a dad arriving there at the same time I did with a few young kids screaming for something to eat or drink. Towards the end of the game, actually with 20 minutes to go I went looking for a drink. So what do I find, all the drink outlets closed. If you wanted a drink you had to go to the toilets, cup your hands under the tap and get a drink that way.

On Friday night I was at Penrith for the Souths game. When you queue to buy your food and drink their is a board that gives you the prices of each item. So what happens when you go to pay, they charge you more then you expect. The person behind the counter tells you they haven't updated their sign from last season. Penrith have had four home games and they haven't updated such a simple thing as the food price board.

As I said they are only minor, but they are both problems that can be easily corrected. The NRL is a multi million dollar business and they should be able to fix the minor problems. Little problems like these make them look amateurish.

Another thing I and most other fans who attend games find irritating is that 40 minute break we have between the Holden Cup and the NRL game. Come one NRL get rid of it, its flat out boring sitting there with nothing to do.

Yes we get to see the teams warm up. But after a few games of watching that it gets boring and we switch off.

An NRL game is supposed to go about 90 minutes when you take in to account halftime. Yet we have had games this season go over 2 hours. Understandably injuries can create stoppages and delay games. But most delays in games are not caused by injury, but are so by the referees stopping game for either cautions or referring decisions up stairs to the video ref.

The Souths/Canberra game went for an 1 hour 50 min. That extra 15 to 20 minutes was not caused by player injury. Just about every time a try was scored it was referred. We had the video ref watching replay after replay after replay while the fans were sitting there screaming for him to hurry up.

They want to speed up the game and make it more exciting. Well they can do so by getting rid of a lot of that dead time that fans have to put up with.

 

[SLRBRONCOS]

That is crap, I think Suncorp is similar, but since I live within a km of Suncorp I never arrive more than half an hour before kickoff.

I once got so desperate that I ate a hotdog at ANZ and it was still cold in the middle. Fear.

We are lucky up here, at half time my mates and I sometimes will grab a leave pass from the Stadium and then walk up Caxton St to get some decent food.

 

[bottle]

That is crap, I think Suncorp is similar, but since I live within a km of Suncorp I never arrive more than half an hour before kickoff.

I once got so desperate that I ate a hotdog at ANZ and it was still cold in the middle. Fear.

We are lucky up here, at half time my mates and I sometimes will grab a leave pass from the Stadium and then walk up Caxton St to get some decent food.

I don't think you can get a leave pass from ANZ. It's a bit like Berlin when the wall was still up.
They're afraid that once you leave you may never come back. Understandable. Captive audience and all that.

 

[SLRBRONCOS]

I don't think you can get a leave pass from ANZ. It's a bit like Berlin when the wall was still up.
They're afraid that once you leave you may never come back. Understandable. Captive audience and all that.

Haha! And when you walk in and realise the view from your seat is pretty poor, you would prefer watch it at the pub.

 

[BunniesMan]

ANZ stadium is the future of rugby league in Sydney and absolutely essentially to meeting crowd growth targets.

 

[bottle]

ANZ could have been markedly improved if MH370 had headed South East rather than South West.

 

[SLRBRONCOS]

ANZ stadium is the future of rugby league in Sydney and absolutely essentially to meeting crowd growth targets.

It is, unfortunately the viewing and eating experiences are not great there.

Traveling from the city to there even on origin nights is crap.

 

[SLRBRONCOS]

ANZ could have been markedly improved if MH370 had headed South East rather than South West.

The four beloved Queenslanders on that flight deserve a better resting place than ANZ stadium.

Even the 777 itself would prefer not.

 

[RedVee]

Shit crowd at tOrana Park but to be fair it was raining on and off all afternoon down here. I laugh at the threat to reduce the Campbelltown to a token presence... That is what it is now and has been for some time.

The other thing to note is that a large proportion of the population do not support the WTs, they still support the clubs they had before relocating out here for economic (or other) reasons. Penrith went through the same thing for years until success and a consistent presence in the area started converting the children or grandchildren of those that relocated into Panthers.

Playing games against non-Sydney teams will negatively affect crowds, sure that may be from poor to very poor .

I moved out here in 1990, I have only had a seemingly very few games available at tOrana against St George or St George Illawarra in all that time.

 

[georgesnmith]

So why have people stopped attending NRL games?

Let me tell you of my experience in the two most recent games I have attended. While they may only appear to be minor, if they happen often it can be enough to turn some fans off from attending games.

Two weeks ago I was at ANZ to see Souths play Canberra. I got there about 12.15pm. The Holden Cup game had been going for about 30 mins. I was feeling thirsty/hungry, so I went to buy something. To my surprise I found no food/drink outlet open for business. I was told they would not open till 1.45. Which is an hour after the kick off to the U-20's. I can only imagine what it would have been like for a dad arriving there at the same time I did with a few young kids screaming for something to eat or drink. Towards the end of the game, actually with 20 minutes to go I went looking for a drink. So what do I find, all the drink outlets closed. If you wanted a drink you had to go to the toilets, cup your hands under the tap and get a drink that way.

On Friday night I was at Penrith for the Souths game. When you queue to buy your food and drink their is a board that gives you the prices of each item. So what happens when you go to pay, they charge you more then you expect. The person behind the counter tells you they haven't updated their sign from last season. Penrith have had four home games and they haven't updated such a simple thing as the food price board.

As I said they are only minor, but they are both problems that can be easily corrected. The NRL is a multi million dollar business and they should be able to fix the minor problems. Little problems like these make them look amateurish.

Another thing I and most other fans who attend games find irritating is that 40 minute break we have between the Holden Cup and the NRL game. Come one NRL get rid of it, its flat out boring sitting there with nothing to do.

Yes we get to see the teams warm up. But after a few games of watching that it gets boring and we switch off.

An NRL game is supposed to go about 90 minutes when you take in to account halftime. Yet we have had games this season go over 2 hours. Understandably injuries can create stoppages and delay games. But most delays in games are not caused by injury, but are so by the referees stopping game for either cautions or referring decisions up stairs to the video ref.

The Souths/Canberra game went for an 1 hour 50 min. That extra 15 to 20 minutes was not caused by player injury. Just about every time a try was scored it was referred. We had the video ref watching replay after replay after replay while the fans were sitting there screaming for him to hurry up.

They want to speed up the game and make it more exciting. Well they can do so by getting rid of a lot of that dead time that fans have to put up with.

right outside the ground theres a subway,mcdonalds and you can bring the food in with you

ribs and rumps across the road.

have a feed before going inside

 

[Burns]

Anyone know how Eden Park is shaping up? Expect 20,000 or ?