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Crowd Watch 2014 part 3

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WaznTheGreat

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Kick State of Origin out of the comp,kick channel 9 out of the comp,kick 26 rounds out of the comp,kick refs out of the comp,kick wrestling out of the comp.
 

Valheru

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The Panthers having to play 4 Monday home games is a joke, from memory manly had a raw deal last year as well.

If they must persist with Monday I like the idea of every team hosting 1 for a total of 16 throughout the season. Of the other 10 rounds 6 are ‘bye’ rounds so absolutely no need for Monday night and a further two rounds don’t have Monday night (Week before rep round and Round 26) so that leaves 2 full rounds with no Monday night, Sunday night on fox would be the compromise.
 

franklin2323

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The Panthers having to play 4 Monday home games is a joke, from memory manly had a raw deal last year as well.

If they must persist with Monday I like the idea of every team hosting 1 for a total of 16 throughout the season. Of the other 10 rounds 6 are ?bye? rounds so absolutely no need for Monday night and a further two rounds don?t have Monday night (Week before rep round and Round 26) so that leaves 2 full rounds with no Monday night, Sunday night on fox would be the compromise.

Great idea. I am not anti-Monday night footy but should be shared around the clubs.
 

wungads

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In order to fix crowds, the NRL needs to take a quick lesson in supply & demand economics. They need to put UNDESIRABLE games in DESIRABLE time slots to ensure that crowds are boosted. The NRL should place DESIRABLE games in UNDESIRABLE time slots, as they will draw a crowd regardless of the conditions because of the exorbitant supply. The game of the round should be on a Monday & the worst games should be on a Friday night & Sunday afternoon. This method, coupled with reducing beer & food prices will have the fans coming in droves and ensuring the success of NRL for years to come.

For example:

Friday: Canberra vs Cowboys in Canberra (Put this undesirable game at a friendly time slot to ensure the entirety of Canberra gets out to the fixture).

Monday: Roosters vs Rabbitohs (Put this desirable game at a poor time slot, as it will draw a crowd regardless).
 

Canard

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In order to fix crowds, the NRL needs to take a quick lesson in supply & demand economics. They need to put UNDESIRABLE games in DESIRABLE time slots to ensure that crowds are boosted. The NRL should place DESIRABLE games in UNDESIRABLE time slots, as they will draw a crowd regardless of the conditions because of the exorbitant supply. The game of the round should be on a Monday & the worst games should be on a Friday night & Sunday afternoon. This method, coupled with reducing beer & food prices will have the fans coming in droves and ensuring the success of NRL for years to come.

For example:

Friday: Canberra vs Cowboys in Canberra (Put this undesirable game at a friendly time slot to ensure the entirety of Canberra gets out to the fixture).

Monday: Roosters vs Rabbitohs (Put this desirable game at a poor time slot, as it will draw a crowd regardless).

AFL troll is obvious.
 

papabear

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In order to fix crowds, the NRL needs to take a quick lesson in supply & demand economics. They need to put UNDESIRABLE games in DESIRABLE time slots to ensure that crowds are boosted. The NRL should place DESIRABLE games in UNDESIRABLE time slots, as they will draw a crowd regardless of the conditions because of the exorbitant supply. The game of the round should be on a Monday & the worst games should be on a Friday night & Sunday afternoon. This method, coupled with reducing beer & food prices will have the fans coming in droves and ensuring the success of NRL for years to come.

For example:

Friday: Canberra vs Cowboys in Canberra (Put this undesirable game at a friendly time slot to ensure the entirety of Canberra gets out to the fixture).


Monday: Roosters vs Rabbitohs (Put this desirable game at a poor time slot, as it will draw a crowd regardless).

you are kidding, big crowds don't come regardless. The AFL canned mnf or Thursday night because a carlton Collingwood match drew crap which is normally their big game.

The key is canning undesirable time slots.

If anything big matches should have the most desirable time slots until the stadium is selling out.
 

Perth Red

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Yep big Sydney derbies every Friday and Sunday at Sfs and anz accordingly.
Bring in Perth and have Perth and warriors alternating at home each week so Sunday has three games, either NZ at 12 est or Perth 6pm est. no Monday nights.
 

Timmah

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you are kidding, big crowds don't come regardless. The AFL canned mnf or Thursday night because a carlton Collingwood match drew crap which is normally their big game.

The key is canning undesirable time slots.

If anything big matches should have the most desirable time slots until the stadium is selling out.

That Carlton/Collingwood game was a Sunday night, but the point stands - it was a ginormous failure. Big games need ample scheduling - Easter weekend blockbusters are evidence of that.
 

HHH

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dunno if this might work but if every team plays a monday night game in the country we'd be killing two birds with one stone

Im sure country folk would turn up to a monday night game if promoted as a big occasion

we are only averaging 10000 for our monday night games anyway so rooster vs titans at mudgee on a monday would probably attract more than the recent 6000 at the SFS
 

RWB

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dunno if this might work but if every team plays a monday night game in the country we'd be killing two birds with one stone

Im sure country folk would turn up to a monday night game if promoted as a big occasion

we are only averaging 10000 for our monday night games anyway so rooster vs titans at mudgee on a monday would probably attract more than the recent 6000 at the SFS

Just make it so every team gets 1 Monday night game per year. That's 16 rounds, the other 8-10 rounds can be Thursday nights. It's the best compromise for clubs & TV execs.

Getting good crowds is great but if it's just compromising TV viewership by excluding bad crowd drawing time slots & in the end putting the games revenue at a net loss then it's really not worth it, I think lots of people lose track of this fact when talking about crowd improvement.

If each club gets 1 Monday night game per year then they can make it into an event, drop the prices & really try to turn it into a big deal. The NRL can add some incentives like prize money for the 3 biggest crowds & disincentives like reduction of grant money for the low performers.

The NRL should look at implementing something like "Tightass Tuesdays" for Monday night games across the board. It's been a huge success for cinemas and could just as easily do the same for our game. $10 for an Adult, $5 for Students & $2 for kids. The clubs might not make a great deal on it, in fact they probably wont make any money directly from the night but the game & by affiliation the clubs will be much better off financially for being able to offer Monday nights as part of our TV deal.
 

Cumberland Throw

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Just make it so every team gets 1 Monday night game per year. That's 16 rounds, the other 8-10 rounds can be Thursday nights. It's the best compromise for clubs & TV execs.

Getting good crowds is great but if it's just compromising TV viewership by excluding bad crowd drawing time slots & in the end putting the games revenue at a net loss then it's really not worth it, I think lots of people lose track of this fact when talking about crowd improvement.

If each club gets 1 Monday night game per year then they can make it into an event, drop the prices & really try to turn it into a big deal. The NRL can add some incentives like prize money for the 3 biggest crowds & disincentives like reduction of grant money for the low performers.

The NRL should look at implementing something like "Tightass Tuesdays" for Monday night games across the board. It's been a huge success for cinemas and could just as easily do the same for our game. $10 for an Adult, $5 for Students & $2 for kids. The clubs might not make a great deal on it, in fact they probably wont make any money directly from the night but the game & by affiliation the clubs will be much better off financially for being able to offer Monday nights as part of our TV deal.


sorry mate this is way to sensible...

Would be interested to see the ratings for different monday night games...

I'm not sure the audience changes, regardless of the team...

I reckon there is basically 200k fox viewers who watch every week regardless of the actual percieved "TV Quality" of the game ...
 

Cumberland Throw

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I think the 5.30 sat game rates the best most weeks on fox

The weird thing is that fox always put their first pick on Monday night

So their second pick is more popular on TV than their first ??

Even fox must of thought it was stupid to pick Penrith 4 times on a Monday ?

But they did it
 

lockyno1

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Is there much difference between the fox Sunday TV audience and the Monday might game?

Yes and one is live and one is delayed. Have said this for years...the Sunday game should be live to start at 3:30pm. Will allow 9 to have a 30min preview and have their normal ads at halftime.
 

oikee

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RWB, YES, two for Tuesday. Throw in a free pizza as well.

I was reading a interesting story from Dave Smith yesterday.
He mentioned we sat in a good spot because the TV networks wanted Monday night and even Thursday night footy. So next deal they will pay more to keep them.
He also mentioned breaking the slots up, Thursday nights at the beginning of the year, Monday nights towards the end. So the cold period around origin time wont have any night footy, which is good because Origin is on Wednesday nights.
I have never made sense of playing Monday night games during origin week anyhow. That is the worst planning i have ever seen.

Ratings for a Thursday night game hit 1 million viewers. That is rich pickings.
Monday night games on Fox are popular. I dont think i have missed a game yet for 3 years.
 
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