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Crowd Watch Mk 3

H.H

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Selective memory? It is AFL grand final DAY and the NRL ran a promotion that you could get half price tickets to the Ethihad game if you showed your AFL GF ticket when you got NRL tickets at the gate.

I would prefer to get people to AAMI and show AFL fans how good RL looks in a world class stadium than an oval with a low gradient. Even if it means 8k less.
The other facts missing here is that the prelim final that was played the night of the AFL GF was in 2009 and it drew 28k (which was still very good imo).

The 2007 prelim was against the Eels and yes is drew 33k, but it was a Sunday afternoon and I believe it was the week after the AFL GF (could be wrong on that last point).
 

1 Eyed TEZZA

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The 2007 prelim was against the Eels and yes is drew 33k, but it was a Sunday afternoon and I believe it was the week after the AFL GF (could be wrong on that last point).

I read somewhere, at the time of the game, that there was a surprisingly large amount of Eels fans there. We don't travel very much so I was a bit surprised myself.
 

Leica Tiger

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Hello? What planet are you living on. They play the game at AAMI Park which for a Preliminary Final has a tiny capacity of 30,000 and yet there was still empty seats.

Well done to the Storm fans that went, but that crowd figure is not good enough for a self-proclaimed 'sporting capital of Australia' with a team as dominant as the Storm have been should't have a single empty seat in such a small stadium.

BUT - the Melbourne fans are not totally at fault here: I also blame the NRL. The lesson learnt here is that the NRL has erred in not playing this game at Etihad. Playing the match at such a small stadium does not give the match a 'special event' type feel that this match demanded. In 2007 the Storm played Parramatta on AFL grand final night and got 33,000 - 8,000 more than last night. How much more do you think they might have got at Etihad last night with no AFL competition? The NRL has gone backwards since 2007 and has no faith in it's own product. You aim low and you get a low result. Had of they had the balls and played it at Etihad they might have enouraged more casual sports fans to go for the 'big event' ticket and they might have got 35,000. Whilst this is nowhere near capacity I would rather play in a bigger stadium and two thirds capacity for a larger crowd than at a small stadium which encourages no-one other than core Storm fans and gets 4,500 empty seats.

The only thing going for AAMI Park over Etihad is that it is a rectangular stadium. Last night's match should have been at Eithad for the same reason that they played State Of Origin 1 there instead of at AAMI Park. Or for the same reason the Warriors would play a Preliminary Final at Eden Park instead of Mount Smart.

OK what we need here is a dose of perspective.

1. The game in 2007 against Parra that got 33.4K at Etihad was on a Sunday arvo (23/9/07) one week before the AFL GF (not on AFL GF night). The AFL had a final on the Friday night (21/9) at the MCG, and one the night before in Adelaide. So there was no AFL game that day in Melbourne. It was when the NRL PFs were on Sat night and Sun arvo. There were also heaps of Parra fans at that game for some reason, possibly because quite a few traveled down or there are plenty who have relocated to Melb.

2. Last night's crowd at AAMI (25.5K) was the second largest for a Storm game at AAMI. The largest was last year's PF against the Warriors that got 28.5K, only 3K more. Not bad considering a decent proportion of the crowd that night were going for the Warriors. Could have been as many as 10-12K Warriors fans. There were less than 3K Manly fans there last night, so at least 22.5K were following the Storm, compared with at most 18K at the game last year.

3. It was the fourth largest crowd ever for a Storm game in Melbourne.
1. 33.4K v Eels 2007 @Etihad,
2. 28.5K v Warriors 2011 @AAMI
3. 27.7K v Broncos 2009 @Etihad (on the night following the AFL GF)
4. 25.5K v Manly 2012 @AAMI
The higher crowds than last night's crowd were against teams with plenty more away supporters than Manly can muster.

4. Also remember one little thing that occurred that may have affected crowds in Melbourne a wee bit since 2007 - THE SALARY CAP SCANDAL. The Cap Scandal decimated support in Melbourne and a lot of the work they had done previously was eroded away. They have basically had to start again from their core supporters and build up since 2010 and try to regain the trust of the Melbourne public (the ones that actually care that they exist anyway).
 

STORM.99/07

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Leica you are wrong in point 3.. In 2009 we played the donkeys on GF night as I watched the GF at Crown Casino then went over to Etihad stadium to watch Storm demolish donkeys.Geelong beat St Kilda in the afl GF
 

BunniesMan

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4. Also remember one little thing that occurred that may have affected crowds in Melbourne a wee bit since 2007 - THE SALARY CAP SCANDAL. The Cap Scandal decimated support in Melbourne and a lot of the work they had done previously was eroded away. They have basically had to start again from their core supporters and build up since 2010 and try to regain the trust of the Melbourne public (the ones that actually care that they exist anyway).
Lets not overstate things. This is their average crowds in recent years:

2009: 11, 978
2010: 14, 670
2011: 14, 246
2012: 12, 685

Yes they've had a bit of a dip in 2012 but in the 18 months following the scandal in 2010 and 2011 they had their best ever crowds.

Victorians don't care if the Storm cheated. They just get a kick out of "beating the northerners at their own game".
 

Cumberland Throw

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What happens it Melbourne when Bellamy and the big 3 leave ??

Their really need to convert 25000 regular devoted fans over the next 2 years while they are good.
 
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Crowd is building nicely at ANZ, there are people wayyy up in the top bleaches and in the corners. Will easily surpass 70k.
 

Perth Red

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What happens it Melbourne when Bellamy and the big 3 leave ??

Their really need to convert 25000 regular devoted fans over the next 2 years while they are good.

Depends who they replace them with?

If they drop form then their crowds will drop just like every other teams in the comp. In some ways probably less as the 12-14k they have got are pretty much their hardcore, they don't have the advantage of a lot of glory seeking fans that just come out when the sniff of a GF is in the air like alot of other teams.
 

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