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Dylan Brown - charged sexual touching

Angry_eel

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It has an effect. Obviously if a woman is scantily clad it can provoke sexual feelings, compared to if she was wearing a long dress. The very reason why the bible advises woman to dress modestly.

Maybe you need to live in a developing country like Egypt or India to understand that the more you put pressure on Women to dress conservatively, the more it encourages sexual harassment, touching and assault by Men.

It wasn't that long ago this was the case in the Western world as well, its the laws and judiciary which protect Women not the advice from the Bible, Quran, Gita, Dhammapada or Little red book by Mao.
 

Pumpkin

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Maybe you need to live in a developing country like Egypt or India to understand that the more you put pressure on Women to dress conservatively, the more it encourages sexual harassment, touching and assault by Men.

It wasn't that long ago this was the case in the Western world as well, its the laws and judiciary which protect Women not the advice from the Bible, Quran, Gita, Dhammapada or Little red book by Mao.
Please refer to post #710 for proper context before shooting your mouth off with blasphemous rhetoric like an imbecile.
 

Pumpkin

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Did you edit out your reference to the bible from post #710?

** Edit - no problem, I found it in an earlier post:
"The very reason why the bible advises woman to dress modestly."
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1 Timothy 2:9

likewise also that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire,
 
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So those are the words of Timothy, not JC... but Timothy wasn't one of the apostles.

Who was Timothy, and why should the lady sexually touched by Dylan Brown at The Sheaf listen to what he has to say?
 

Poupou Escobar

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Maybe you need to live in a developing country like Egypt or India to understand that the more you put pressure on Women to dress conservatively, the more it encourages sexual harassment, touching and assault by Men.

It wasn't that long ago this was the case in the Western world as well, its the laws and judiciary which protect Women not the advice from the Bible, Quran, Gita, Dhammapada or Little red book by Mao.
Actually what protects Western women is the feminisation of Western men. Testosterone levels are in heavy decline and so few men are threatening these days that women feel safe enough to display their secondary sexual characteristics. In Egypt/India/etc, very few men have undergone the same level of feminisation, so their libidos are high and sexual harassment is rampant. These ancient religious/legal codes all say that sex outside of marriage is wrong (which includes raping strangers) so that isn't the cause. The fact is humans are animals and respond to animal urges. The reason men get less aggressive as they age is because their testosterone levels drop away. For the same reason, young men with less testosterone are less aggressive than young men with more. I'm sure NRL players would have far more testosterone than the average man. They are outliers.
 

Pumpkin

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So those are the words of Timothy, not JC... but Timothy wasn't one of the apostles.

Who was Timothy, and why should the lady sexually touched by Dylan Brown at The Sheaf listen to what he has to say?
2 Timothy 3: 16-17

All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.
 

Poupou Escobar

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So those are the words of Timothy, not JC... but Timothy wasn't one of the apostles.

Who was Timothy, and why should the lady sexually touched by Dylan Brown at The Sheaf listen to what he has to say?
I doubt the words of Timothy fit her lifestyle. She has other mentors competing for her attention.
 

Poupou Escobar

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I don't think that my suggestion was specfic to attracting only members of the opposite sex, but rather for whichever sex they care to raise the desire of.
Well heterosexuals seem to have cornered the market for misunderstandings around consent. We never hear that gay men or lesbians (or straight women) need to learn that no means no, for example.
 

Pumpkin

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Actually what protects Western women is the feminisation of Western men. Testosterone levels are in heavy decline and so few men are threatening these days that women feel safe enough to display their secondary sexual characteristics. In Egypt/India/etc, very few men have undergone the same level of feminisation, so their libidos are high and sexual harassment is rampant. These ancient religious/legal codes all say that sex outside of marriage is wrong (which includes raping strangers) so that isn't the cause. The fact is humans are animals and respond to animal urges. The reason men get less aggressive as they age is because their testosterone levels drop away. For the same reason, young men with less testosterone are less aggressive than young men with more. I'm sure NRL players would have far more testosterone than the average man. They are outliers.
You make some good points but I disagree that humans are animals. Humans have the ability to control their desires, whilst animals dont. There's no doubt Dylan Brown has done something wrong but I don't think he should be crucified for it. God himself would not be condemning Brown. He's done something silly under the influence of alcohol. He no doubt realises that himself. Just learn, take measures to avoid it in future, and get back on the field so he can help the loser parramatta eels.
 
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2 Timothy 3: 16-17

All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.
So this mysterious Timothy again, bigging up his own scripture/gospel as somehow being just as valuable as the actual words of JC when he had (previously, assuming the chronologies) walked the earth?
 

Bandwagon

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1 Timothy 2:9

likewise also that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire,

Yeah, but Timothy was a raving drama queen, and very much a homosexual.

John 3:8

Yay verily, he who hasn't analed Timothy has not known the pleasures of our lord.
 

Pumpkin

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So this mysterious Timothy again, bigging up his own scripture/gospel as somehow being just as valuable as the actual words of JC when he had (previously, assuming the chronologies) walked the earth?
You are trying to discredit a bible writer. Do you think the whole bible is the words of Jesus? Timothy is advising women to be modest. Is that wrong? Do you want them walking down the street wearing high heeled shoes and a bikini? And if you say hello to them they sneer at you like you are dirt and if you touch them you go to jail? That's your gospel, don't worry about Timothy.
 
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You are trying to discredit a bible writer. Do you think the whole bible is the words of Jesus? Timothy is advising women to be modest. Is that wrong? Do you want them walking down the street wearing high heeled shoes and a bikini? And if you say hello to them they sneer at you like you are dirt and if you touch them you go to jail? That's your gospel, don't worry about Timothy.
But my question was who is Timothy in the scheme of things, if he wasn't one of the 12 apostles. Did he even meet JC? Why should his (translated) words matter to a young lady who should be able to attend The Sheaf wearing whatever she wants - for whatever reasons she has for wearing them - but without being sexually touched without consent?
 

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