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Eels deliver ultimatum to Daniel Anderson: Step Down or be Sacked & accused of racism

Should Anderson get the sack?


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HevyDevy

Coach
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Yes I can.

If you desert the Parramatta Eels at possibly one of our lowest ebbs, then I would never call you a true fan. Actually this a time when the true fans should be rising up and letting their voices be heard.

The Parramatta Eels are more than the board. They are the players, the fans, Parramatta Stadium, the jersey, the emblem, Parramatta, the Eels.

Deserting the club over the boards decision is freaking ridiculous and stupid and not true fan like.

So if you desert the club and we go on a good run next year, will you suddenly become a supporter again? Well guess what, you have just become a bandwagon fan. And bandwagon fans are not true fans.

:lol: at you talking about my fandom.
 

Djay

Juniors
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for those that want to jump ship, I think you should hang around and make your vote count, in other words if you aint happy, then do something about it, make your voice heard or send them an email

as for the poll, I really think there is alot of stuff that has happened that we dont know about, I think its hard to make an informed decision on what has been leaked to us so far

what we need is all the facts and the truth and we dont have all that atm
Exactly right, We don't know what's true and what's false so I suggest we just wait and see. Because the things that are being said about Ando not having structure could be a lie and could be the board lying to cover their asses for all we know. Time will tell.
 

CrazyEel

Bench
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I used to get all emotional over club decisions I thought were deplorably wrong and ranted something fierce at many a football club meeting. But the last time was 20 years ago when I finally realised like every thing else shoved down our throats "it too will pass".

Geez I even remember being upset about the then board punting Ian Walshe as coach before his contract ran out one year after taking us from wooden spoon to the semis in the early 70's.

It may be new to you and while I don't condone it fact remains I haven't seen anything from this board that I haven't seen from past boards, including sacking coaches and the big admin clean out Fitzy embarked on in the mid 80's LOL. It's just history repeating itself.
 
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Sure I can.

True fans never desert their team. Never.

Do you beg to differ?

That depends,

I have heard from a good friend of mine that he supported the eels because he saw the type of club his local club became and found solace in the type of club the eels were, not withstanding his constant following of them from afar.

Is this club, the club many fell in love with? That is the question many need to ask themselves and if it is not, then do you hang around to change it? Can you change it, is the task to hard that instead of years of sufferance (which we have all already suffered) do we see it through, that is up to the individual. But I would not call those people untrue to this club. Maybe it is the club that has been and continues to be untrue to them.

Just another perspective.
 

HevyDevy

Coach
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Quite well put MITS.

From my perspective - when I say I can no longer support the club I mean that I can't support the club while this board rides roughshod over all that I have loved.

I'm yet to figure out exactly what it means for me to no longer support Parramatta. Do I still love the Eels? Absolutely. I just can't throw my weight behind this farce. I consider it to be stepping aside and waiting for the opportunity to follow them properly again. That won't happen while this board is in place.

I can't explain to you how disgusted I am by the actions of this board, but of course many of you feel the same so you do understand how I feel.
 

spartan2153

Juniors
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sorry but the board is showing complete lack of respect for us supporters. If you notice the theme there using here its not about the club sticking solid at all. Its ahbout them getting voted back in. If we vote with our feet & do not turn up to any games or spend a dollar that is the best way to hurt the board.

I would love to know why john lang is not gonna get the sack. kevin moore, Ivan henjack, Neil henry, Craig bellamy who must have surely known something was wroing. Tim sheens the last 5 years, david furner last year.

It starts at the top & our board have a coach who has a proven track record. The lies that are coming out are just ludicres about coach da. Players turning up to training late. No coaching structure or long term plan. This is a coach who lets look at his record. So the board is trying to tell us that all of a sudden his career has been a fluke.

Dont make me sick. You can only deal with stuff being swept under the carpet for so long. I choose to act how I want. Its the people who are trying to justify what the board is doing to DA that is tragic.

If they sack DA & appoinjt any other coach. I pray the wooden spoon follows them. This will teach the board & all you supporters that believe the garbage about DA a lesson.

I will love the club but sometimes short term pain is better for long term gain.

We had hagan who set us back 5 years with his recruiting. DA was brought in to fix his mess & way way over achoieved his first year. This year was not as bad as people make out. The boys put in for most of the games. Our defence has improved 200% since he came on board. We do not have a f*cken half back & i dont care what you all think. Mortimer has been shoved down DA's throat. Give hoim the team he wants not that fat f*cks osbournes team who l ast year claimed all the praises for what we achieved but this year has distanced himself from any negative press.

Football manager is not the coach's responsibily its the boards & ceo. Osbourne was hand picked for a reason to be the ceo. We had grant mayer applying for the job a guy who helped turn manly around to premiership contenders but the board advised osbourne to aplly for the job.

If you all cant see what there plan was from the start its terrible you cannot take off the blue & gold glasses & actually see what there up to.
 
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Avenger

Immortal
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I have a theory about this board. All I can say is that these types would destroy heaven. Just look at some of the other clubs particularly soccer clubs and society in general that these types have destroyed when allowed to run the show. NSW Labor also comes to mind.

It makes me even more sick seeing that I am from a similar background.
 

Casper The Ghost

First Grade
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9,924
Wow.

So he gets handed a rabble, gets them to a GF without a halfback. Has them play disciplined footy with consistent defence - but without a halfback can't score enough points to win games.

And then gets punted without being given a fair crack at recruitment for next year...

This is so different to the axing of Hagan it's not even funny. Hagan was given the team he wanted when he arrived, crapped up the recruitment of juniors in those 2 years, flicked all the young halfbacks in the joint and then "left on his own terms".
Anderson inherits the mess, starts fixing it by bringing a more disciplined structure - and is punted for not having a halfback (who flicked Maloney and Hodkinson again?)

I'll support the club over any individual - but this isn't the coaches fault.

:clap::clap::clap::thumb
 

parra pete

Referee
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I used to get all emotional over club decisions I thought were deplorably wrong and ranted something fierce at many a football club meeting. But the last time was 20 years ago when I finally realised like every thing else shoved down our throats "it too will pass".

Geez I even remember being upset about the then board punting Ian Walshe as coach before his contract ran out one year after taking us from wooden spoon to the semis in the early 70's.

It may be new to you and while I don't condone it fact remains I haven't seen anything from this board that I haven't seen from past boards, including sacking coaches and the big admin clean out Fitzy embarked on in the mid 80's LOL. It's just history repeating itself.

Ian Walsh getting the side into the semi final co-incided with the return of the Mayor in 1971..
 

Casper The Ghost

First Grade
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the plans he is talking about, are they Leagues club or football club ?

how can Anderson implement a plan if he gets sacked mid contract



totally agree

our board make a knee jerk decision and they seem to have very short memories about Ando's achievements last year, yet look at their performance over the last few months

perhaps its time the club looked at the over sized egos of a few of the players.Anderson was good enough last year to guide them to the finals.This year a few of the standout players from last year where missing in action.
As for Kearney would be a huge mistake.Steve Folkes would be a far better option a proven coach

Thanks for the correction . . . Reading the post through blurry Sunday morning eyes.

Going by your info, then that could spell a rift within the playing group, with the statesman like Hindmarsh backing Anderson?

I hope the problem they have is not due to being afraid of discipline.

Loook at the Dragons success when the players embrace a renown disciplanarian and his plans.

Irrespective of all, the club has been in the media for issues of disharmony at a board level for much of the season. Not a great report card for effectively their first full year.

A serious "cultural" problem in the club will take a few years to change. It requires a year or so to assess (feel your way through) everything so you can fully comprehend where all the "cultural" issues stem from and then begin the arduous process of implementing a gradual change that eventually gets rid of this "cultural" problem from the ground-floor/juniors up.. You can't just immediately sack players under contract left, right and center. It has to be done in stages. This also provides the time & space for DA to assess the attitudes of the players and if they are willing to go where the coach is going... meaning they have a positive supportive attitude and are not negative, disruptive and backstabbing whingers and therefore are revealing themselves as part of the "cultural" problem in the club. If the new board and the new ceo stood 100% behind Daniel Anderson from day one, worked with him in helping him rout out the "cultural" problem, DA might have come close to implementing a 3 year plan to completely turn the club around by now or at least by early next year. As it stands DA has found the "cultural" problem is also rampant amongst 3P so his job just got that much harder.
 

Casper The Ghost

First Grade
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a scenario for you:
mid-season a story emerges that pirtek want anderson out. a story which pirtek say is false.
the board, who allegedely want da out call for an end of season review. two members of the board vote in favour of da. one of those being the pirtek dude to make it look like he will be impartial so he gets put on the review panel.
then from the review he comes out with claims that da has no plan to make da look incompetent. then that way the spinning of no pressure from pirtek and an neutral review can be bandied about. show support while working against your allie. destroy from within etc. sun tzu would be proud.

maybe a conspiracy theory but it seems to fit.

i would very much like to hear from geoff gerard about this.

Exactly......... It's great to see others are USING their brains. The Hegelian Dialectic is at play here BIG-TIME. Is Pirtek becoming part of the "cultural" problem? No doubt 3P has!
 

hineyrulz

Post Whore
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I am totally against the decision of DA getting the punt, pissed of in fact. But nothing will ever make me not stop cheering for the mighy Blue and Golds, Nothing.

I cannot believe some people are hoping we get the spoon next year :crazy: Because of the board FFS!! The last CEO couldn't guarantee our future, rightly or wrongly the Board is taking action over a dismal season.
At least it shows that what was dished up this season was not good enough for the Parramatta Eels.
 

Casper The Ghost

First Grade
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you know what I find starnge Hev?

in the past five years we've had people here continue to be fans despite..

* calling for Cayless's axing as captain.

* a board that was voted out.

* a 30 year CEO leaving the club.

* people calling for Luke Burt's axing from first grade

* a coach walking out on the club in his 10th year because of a decision not renew his contract.

* several retrenchments of football club staff orchestrated by the current and former board.

the list is endless...

how is such a decision on the back of an apparent review effect so many supporters?..

Because most people are good people with good hearts who have only good intentions and they FEEL the vibe from 3P is wrong. Intuition, gut instincts, perception, etc, is a tool of truth and many of us Eels fans KNOW there is a terrible bunch of dead rats in this 3P group and they have to go. It doesn't matter what the spin doctors say good people can see through all the bullsh*t. Just as creatures can tell when an earthquake is coming or when it will rain, most Eels fans KNOW SOMETHING IS TERRIBLY WRONG with 3P.
 

Stagger eel

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Because most people are good people with good hearts who have only good intentions and they FEEL the vibe from 3P is wrong. Intuition, gut instincts, perception, etc, is a tool of truth and many of us Eels fans KNOW there is a terrible bunch of dead rats in this 3P group and they have to go. It doesn't matter what the spin doctors say good people can see through all the bullsh*t. Just as creatures can tell when an earthquake is coming or when it will rain, most Eels fans KNOW SOMETHING IS TERRIBLY WRONG with 3P.

f**k..you're full of it! :lol:
 

IFR33K

Coach
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I am totally against the decision of DA getting the punt, pissed of in fact. But nothing will ever make me not stop cheering for the mighy Blue and Golds, Nothing.

I cannot believe some people are hoping we get the spoon next year :crazy: Because of the board FFS!! The last CEO couldn't guarantee our future, rightly or wrongly the Board is taking action over a dismal season.
At least it shows that what was dished up this season was not good enough for the Parramatta Eels.


Mate if they punt DA and bring in a rookie, and keep chopping and changing, do you really think there would be an increase in numbers in terms of memberships, or a decrease??????

DF was a knob, but the current board make him look like a god sent.

If our beloved club is driven into the dirt, and fans treated like sh*t, would I still pay for a membership???? Maybe, maybe not.
 

Stagger eel

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Mate if they punt DA and bring in a rookie, and keep chopping and changing, do you really think there would be an increase in numbers in terms of memberships, or a decrease??????

DF was a knob, but the current board make him look like a god sent.

If our beloved club is driven into the dirt, and fans treated like sh*t, would I still pay for a membership???? Maybe, maybe not.

that would be the choice of each individual member, but would cease following them?

that and turning up at the next AGM to voice your disaproval would be the more effective measure of protest.
 

IFR33K

Coach
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that would be the choice of each individual member, but would cease following them?

that and turning up at the next AGM to voice your disaproval would be the more effective measure of protest.

Just a yes or no answer is sufficient.

I wouldnt stop following them, but I wont be turning over my hard earned money to them either.
 

TheParraboy

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Its a bit puzzling if DA goes

2011 would most likely be a squad that resembled one he would have preferred to work with from the start if he could have, instead of inheriting players he didnt want or knew wouldnt perform his style of coaching from super coach Hagan. Regardless of what happened in 2009 and this year, he deserved to coach us in 2011. Mid 2011 and we are playing like busteds, then sure Ozzie have your melbourne trips. There is a right way and a pathetic way to do things, unfortunatley we chose the later
 
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