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Eels Salary Cap Mk V

strider

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Im genuinely not sure who jake believes needs to be convinced these merkins are done at the club .... there is no one - and there is no way forward for them

Im seriously starting to think jake is several sandwiches short of a picnic
 

hineyrulz

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How the f**k can a transcript of an interview between the NRL and our coach end up in the media.

How the f**k ?
Not sure what's worse the Article summing up how disgracefully we have been run or how in the hell Jerkaoff gets a hold of this info???

The NRL are happy to leak shit when it suits them, there is no doubt that the NRL is the worst run sport in Australia and if the product wasn't as good as it is it would have been dead long ago.
 

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Not sure what's worse the Article summing up how disgracefully we have been run or how in the hell Jerkaoff gets a hold of this info???

The NRL are happy to leak shit when it suits them, there is no doubt that the NRL is the worst run sport in Australia and if the product wasn't as good as it is it would have been dead long ago.

Toddy says last Sat that it's now time to move forward into a new era for the club and they will help us with it.

Going great so far Todd. I think we're good from here mate.

The NRL "Integrity Commission" has become an oxymoron.
 

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Todd Greenberg rejects Eels’ claim of bias

NRL chief executive Todd Greenberg has dismissed concerns over his objectivity in the Parramatta salary cap scandal and conceded that the evidence of former Eels chief Scott Seward and ex-football manager Jason Irvine should be approached with caution.

Greenberg yesterday forwarded the reasons for his decision to dock the Eels 12 premiership points and fine them $1 million for salary cap breaches to the club, making reference to claims a prior relationship with Seward at the Canterbury Bulldogs might colour his judgment.

The NRL chief provided a reference for Seward when he joined Parramatta and Eels officials were concerned Greenberg’s judgment might be affected given their previous working relationship. Seward was Canterbury’s membership manager at the time Greenberg was CEO of the Bulldogs.

Parramatta have since called for Greenberg to remove himself from the decision-making process.

“The club appears to be suggesting that I am not capable of bringing an independent mind to this determination given what is suggested to be some relationship that exists between me and Seward,” Greenberg wrote.

“I do not wish to respond to this other than to say that I have no such difficulties.”

The Australian can reveal Seward, now working in Melbourne after resigning from Parramatta in June last year, has met with lawyers and is seeking legal action against the Eels.

It’s understood that while Seward takes full responsibility for his actions, he believes many accusations and claims made against him over his time as CEO are false.

Parramatta have raised concerns over the evidence of Seward and Irvine, whose interviews with the NRL played a key role in sanctions being brought against the Eels.

Greenberg conceded their evidence should raise alarm bells.

“The club says that because the evidence of Mr Seward discloses conduct on his part that might be regarded as dishonest, it should be given no real weight,” Greenberg said. “I agree that his evidence should be approached with caution. That said, I do not think that it is correct that it can carry little weight in all circumstances.

“There are statements he makes that are plainly against interest and where that is so, his evidence has some plausibility. The same considerations in my view apply to the evidence of Mr Irvine.

“His evidence is to be approached with caution except where it is against his interests or corroborated by others it carries some weight.”

In his interview with NRL investigators Eels coach Brad Arthur pleaded with them not to strip the club of premiership points, warning it would do more harm than good to players who had put their bodies on the line each week.

Arthur also provided a snapshot into the struggles he encountered at the Eels during the lengthy interview with head of integrity Nick Weeks and lead investigator Karyn Murphy.

Arthur, whose interview was included in more than 700 pages of interviews and statements obtained by The Australian in relation to the scandal, has been praised for the way he has held the club together during a tumultuous few months.

While he agreed the club needed to find some leadership, he insisted there were a lot of people at the Eels who cared about the place.

“In terms of management, it hasn’t been where it needed to be since I’ve been there ...” Arthur said. “I really feel that we’ve a lot of people who have worked hard to try and put this team that we’ve got on the paddock right now together and ... to lose points for this team I think is ... greatly unfair.

“For those players, you know, they put their bodies on the line every week, they bust their arses.

“We’ve had some tough times at that club over the last couple of years and they haven’t shirked it.”

Arthur spoke about how hard he had to work to convince Kieran Foran to join the Eels. Foran has since walked out on his $4.8 million deal after less than a year, requesting a release so he can focus on personal issues.

“A lot of them have been there since, you know, 2014 with me or before and the new boys that have come in have put a bit of trust and faith and, you know, I had to beg him to get Kieran to the club and told him that it wasn’t that bad a joint and then I’m trying to tidy it up ...,” Arthur said. “(You) got to do what you’ve got to do but punishing the playing group for ’16 with points, you know, would be more detrimental to being good.

“We need some people at our club that are leaders. We need a leader that stands up to the head coach ... I just coach the team. You’ve got other people in positions that if they were doing their job properly we’d be right.”

Arthur acknowledged the players were constantly asking for more money. Seward complained he was receiving ongoing requests for unpaid money from player managers.

In his statement to the NRL, Seward said twice he told chairman Steve Sharp and deputy chairman Tom Issa they should go to the NRL “and get some advice on what we should do”.

Sharp and Issa replied to Seward in December 2013: “We’re not going to the NRL. You’re the CEO, if you can’t sort it out we’ll find someone who can.”

Again in September 2014, Seward suggested going to the NRL to “bare our souls” but was told by Sharp and Issa: “No, no, no. We can sort it out. we’ve got plenty of third parties we can get.”

Seward’s recollection is at odds with Sharp, who said in his interview he tried to raise concerns with former NRL chief executive Dave Smith, who responded “we won’t get involved, you need to clean up your own backyard.”
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...s/news-story/ecb4fea09fd49a6e765b857553f4a02f
 

Gary Gutful

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Im genuinely not sure who jake believes needs to be convinced these merkins are done at the club .... there is no one - and there is no way forward for them

Im seriously starting to think jake is several sandwiches short of a picnic

He's got a napkin though.
 

El Diablo

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How the f**k can a transcript of an interview between the NRL and our coach end up in the media.

How the f**k ?
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“The club appears to be suggesting that I am not capable of bringing an independent mind to this determination given what is suggested to be some relationship that exists between me and Seward,” Greenberg wrote.

“I do not wish to respond to this other than to say that I have no such difficulties.”

I said before that he should have excused himself. Now he is looking like a Dyson Hayden @ Trade Union Royal Commission.

The facts may not change nor the findings. The difference is credibility Todd.
 

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Im genuinely not sure who jake believes needs to be convinced these merkins are done at the club .... there is no one - and there is no way forward for them

Im seriously starting to think jake is several sandwiches short of a picnic
Well he liked a post where someone suggest he is a few sandwiches short of a picnic, I think that's confirmation for you strider
 

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More shit!! Who is leaking this stuff!!

Here is an article leaking BA's statement:

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/su...72843ca06fab4977722cf3dcc7c&memtype=anonymous


It's behind a paywall so can't post it. But it's a good read (Filthy_Spammers has a copy of it)

I really don't think this stuff should be leaked, hope the NRL isn't behind it

If ever there was a ringing endorsement for cleaning out top to bottom it is with what Arthur has said in his statement.

What the f**k is the matter with this club? How do we attract such f**king morons?????

I think the members of this forum could do a better job at running the football operations and supporting the coach better than the paid employees of the club!

How f**king hard is it to not be a f**king honest person and not run around sabotaging everyone else just to make yourself look good?????
 

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If ever there was a ringing endorsement for cleaning out top to bottom it is with what Arthur has said in his statement.

What the f**k is the matter with this club? How do we attract such f**king morons?????

I think the members of this forum could do a better job at running the football operations and supporting the coach better than the paid employees of the club!

How f**king hard is it to not be a f**king honest person and not run around sabotaging everyone else just to make yourself look good?????

Unfortunately it is probably a product of the process .... only merkins think they are capable of winning the popular vote - and once they do it feeds their ego - then they employ like minded merkins

Having said that, i also dont believe that success in NRL comes from having honest people involved .... no long standing success comes from clubs that are not "pushing the limits"
 

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Unfortunately it is probably a product of the process .... only merkins think they are capable of winning the popular vote - and once they do it feeds their ego - then they employ like minded merkins

Having said that, i also dont believe that success in NRL comes from having honest people involved .... no long standing success comes from clubs that are not "pushing the limits"

I mean honest internally. If you are honest internally then you are all on the same page. Doesn't matter if that page is slightly dodgy and pushes the boundaries (like the Storm or Broncs) it just matters that you are all working towards the same goal.

I work for the government and he sounds like he's talking about where I work. The difference for me is that in my part (IT, we are a relative new group that doesn't have any affiliation with the business) we are all on the same page and it is us against our "customers" because they are like the way BA describes the Eels. it is a challenge but the united front and keeping out of their bullshit politics has helped us immensely.

BA needs support and he certainly isn't getting it, so f**k them all off! They are running a footy team, not the LC, surely it can't be that hard to be heading in the same direction as the coach you employed?????
 
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how the hell can greenberg say the evidence of seward and irvine "should be approached with caution" when he used it in a case against us??

as for seward threatening legal action i say bring it on we can put his dealings with todd front & centre and grill him about that on the stand

i bet there are plenty of other dodgy skeletons in his closet we can use against him too
 
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Arthur's statement is more damning than any others in my opinion.
Let's he he gets the people on the board and front office i deserves, he is a great coach and has this team playing the type of football we had all hoped to see them play for many years.
The grit in this team is similar to the team in the 80's/
 

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how the hell can greenberg say the evidence of seward and irvine "should be approached with caution" when he used it in a case against us??

as for seward threatening legal action i say bring it on we can put his dealings with todd front & centre and grill him about that on the stand

i bet there are plenty of other dodgy skeletons in his closet we can use against him too

Agreed. Greenberg has conflicts left and right. Add to that he has zero experience in assessing evidence and adjudicating on these types of matters. Thank f**k we have a retired silk in the appeals process who will be able to take stock of the evidence and the asses the reliability of witnesses.

Sadly, whilst we should be entitled every opportunity to seek natural justice before an independent arbitrator, the media will collectively roll their eyes and claim that it's the GO5 clinging on and spending members cash, when they should have walked.
 

eel01s

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Whoever leaked the BA transcripts is a disgrace. Obviously they have an axe to grind with him. Semi now good as gone you would think. Could you blame BA for leaving?

FFS we need to sort the club and it's boards out asap.
 
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