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Eels team vs. Manly

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Parramatta forward Joseph Paulo believes Sunday's clash against Manly will prove whether last year's wooden spooners have learnt anything from 2013.
Having been pilloried for their 56-4 second-half no-show against defending premiers the Roosters last Saturday, Paulo says the team's response against the Sea Eagles will say a lot more about the Eels than what they served up last Saturday night.
"We've definitely moved on from last year, we're not even thinking about it," Paulo told NRL.com. "Last year was last year, but this year is this year and [last week] was a bad loss for it. But I reckon it'll either make us or break us."
The 26-year-old said that rookie coach Brad Arthur was surprisingly positive after the game, despite his side getting caned 11-5 in the penalty count and conceding 700m more to their opposition than the Eels made.
"He just said to keep our heads up. He said he wanted to see more commitment out of all of us and told us to never let it happen again," Paulo said.
"He told us just to flush it out and move on to the next week. It's hard to come here and the Roosters in the form they were in. They towelled us up. It's not a good result for the team, especially confidence-wise, but like I said, it can make or break us.
"We need to come to Manly strong otherwise it's just going to be like last year again."
Parramatta were defeated 28-24 by Manly in a trial at Brookvale Oval back in February, but not before the Eels raced out to a 24-4 halftime lead. Paulo said that while his side lost, there were some positive signs they could take into Sunday's game.
"They're the grand finalists. We played them in the trial. They're really strong and fast," Paulo said.
"I'm glad we got to play against them in the trial so we know what they're like. Hopefully we just prepare different to the way this week. And hopefully get a better result."
Hooker Nathan Peats returns from his club-imposed one-game suspension, while forward Darcy Lussick yesterday accepted an early guilty plea for his swinging arm on Jared Waerea-Hargreaves and will miss the next five weeks.
The Sea Eagles welcome back off-contract lock Glenn Stewart, which means utility Jamie Buhrer returns to an extended bench that includes 18th man Jesse Sene-Lefao.
http://www.nrl.com/manly-clash-can-make-or-break-eels/tabid/10874/newsid/76944/default.aspx
 

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Sea Eagles v Eels
Brookvale Oval
Sunday 3pm

Two fierce rivals come together at Brookvale Oval this Sunday and while on paper it has a bit of a David-and-Goliath look about it, the NRL so far this season has been anything but predictable.
Both the Sea Eagles and the Eels entered the competition together in 1947 and Manly-Warringah were comfortably the first to a title, beating Easts in the 1972 decider.
The maroon and whites extended their bragging rights over their western Sydney rivals in 1976 when they downed the Eels 13-10 in Parramatta's first grand final appearance. However the Eels extracted their revenge, beating Manly in consecutive deciders in 1982 and 1983, and it's been a bitter rivalry ever since.
Manly have chalked up a further four premierships since Parramatta's halcyon years in the 1980s and now lead the premiership race between the two clubs 8-4.
They extended their bragging rights further last year, with a combined 90-16 thrashing in the space of five weeks at Brookvale (50-10 in Round 17) and Parramatta (40-6 in Round 21). The first was a particularly fiery encounter, which saw Eels prop Mitch Allgood sent off for throwing a flurry of punches at the head of Manly centre Steve Matai.
Both those players will be in action again this week; Allgood rejoined Parramatta's 17 in Round 2 following the suspension to Nathan Peats. With Peats back this week Kenny Edwards goes from hooker to lock but Allgood holds his spot due to the suspension to Darcy Lussick, whose swinging arm on Rooster Jared Waerea-Hargreaves has earned him a four-week holiday.
It is the lone change to an Eels side humbled to the tune of 56-4 by the Roosters last week, with coach Brad Arthur giving the players a chance to make amends for that dismal performance.
It's a shame former Sea Eagle Lussick won't get to line up against his old club but keep an eye out for the return of former Manly prodigal son, Will Hopoate, in his first ever game at Brookvale in away team colours.
The Sea Eagles welcome back Glenn Stewart who starts at lock, pushing Jamie Buhrer – who deputised brilliantly in that role last week – to the pine and Jesse Sene-Lefao to 18th man.

Watch Out Sea Eagles: The Eels weren't scaring anyone last week but of their several glaring issues, one was a lack of direction out of dummy-half. Nathan Peats slotted into the side beautifully in their Round 1 triumph over the Warriors at Pirtek Stadium and his inclusion here could be massive. He made a team-high 46 tackles and an Issac Luke-esque 101 metres from 11 runs – 10 of which were darts from dummy half. We're not prepared to say the Eels fell apart in Round 2 solely due to his absence – the increased quality of opposition was no doubt a factor – but if he is indeed the glue that holds this side together they could be a lot more cohesive this week.
Watch Out Eels: Any side that can hold out the competition frontrunners while missing two of their most important players is not a side to take lightly. And two of Manly's best last week were the two players filling the shoes of Brett and Glenn Stewart. Peta Hiku made a team-high 147 metres at the back last week and has already notched seven tackle breaks in two games, while Buhrer's late line break sent Daly Cherry-Evans over for the scoreboard-levelling try (having already made more than 30 of his 39 tackles). Back at Fortress Brookvale and with Glenn Stewart back the Sea Eagles only get more dangerous.
Plays To Watch: The Eels have favoured their left edge in attack so far, with Semi Radradra notching four tries in two games running off danger man Manu Ma'u and also getting good service from Corey Norman and Willie Tonga, with Hayne slotting into several left-side shifts. For Manly it's been a lot of left edge so far, but with Glenn Stewart back look for the Cherry-Evans to Stewart to Lyon right side shift, with a Lyon flick pass to send David Williams over in the corner for at least one try.
Where It Will Be Won: The edges. Although the Eels got steamrollered through the middle last week it's their fringes they'll have to watch most intently. Parramatta's edges have had more holes than a block of Swiss cheese in a cage full of hungry mice in recent years and Manly have arguably the best left- and right-edge attack in the game. What's more, Manly's sliding defence is working a lot more smoothly, which could shut down try scoring sensation Radradra.
The History: Played 141; Sea Eagles 88, Eels 49, Drawn 4. Manly have well and truly had the wood over the Eels historically, and at Brookvale Oval the numbers get truly ugly: just 19 wins from 63 visits for the blue-and-golds. The Eels have won none of their past three and just three of their past 13 matches against Manly.
What Are The Odds: Sportsbet has received more bets on this game than any other in Round 3, with money six to one for Manly, who are into the skinny quote of $1.22. The Eels' price is slithering backwards and they’re out to $4.00 already.
Match Officials: Referees – Jared Maxwell & Grant Atkins; Sideline Officials – Paul Holland & Dan Eastwood; Video Referees – Chris Ward & Paul Mellor.
Televised: Channel Nine – Delayed 4pm.
The Way We See It: A week is a long time in rugby league, and tipping anything has been near impossible so far this year – but both the recent and historical form lines point in exactly the same direction, and that's a big win for the boys from the northern beaches. Manly by a lot. :crazy:
http://www.nrl.com/sea-eagles-v-eels-preview/tabid/10874/newsid/76935/default.aspx
 

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Parramatta's capitulation to NRL premiers Sydney Roosters is all part of the Eels' journey of self-discovery, according to back-rower Joseph Paulo.
With a new coach in Brad Arthur and a swag of new players, the once-mighty blue and gold were a unknown entity heading into the 2014 season.
They kicked off their campaign with an impressive 36-16 win over the Warriors, only to be shot down 56-4 by the Roosters a week later.
"We didn't make it easy for ourselves," Paulo told AAP.
"We were really disappointed because we know there's so much more we can offer."
As much as Paulo and his teammates would like to put last year and the Eels' two successive wooden spoons behind them, it's hard not to draw comparisons to seasons past.
The Eels started 2013 in similar fashion - beating the Warriors 40-10 at home before dropping their next three matches, including a 50-0 drubbing by the Roosters. They went on to lose 13 of their remaining 16 games.
"We've definitely put last year behind us. This is a new year, new coach, new players and we're just all trying to fit into the same system," Paulo said.
"We're still trying to find what kind of team we want to be.
"Games like that (against the Roosters) can either help us define who we want to be or, otherwise, we can just be the same as we've been in the past.
"When you see a glimpse like we did against the Warriors, I know there's definitely the passion and the attitude there.
"But you can't be good one week and off the other week. So we'll definitely look to turn it around this week."
Veteran forward Ben Smith admitted seeing Saturday's scoreline was a bitter pill to swallow.
"At the end of the game, when you think about that sort of stuff, it is frustrating," Smith said.
"It's frustrating that the tries scored were soft - especially at the level of competition that we're at, they shouldn't be allowed.
"The best thing about it is they're things that can be fixed.
"We've just got to stick together, stay confident in each other and believe in each other."
Things won't get any easier on Sunday, when the Eels face last year's grand finalists Manly at Brookvale Oval.
http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8816446
 

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BY the time the Parramatta Eels play Manly at Brookvale Oval on Sunday it will be 638 days since the blue and gold won an away game in NSW. :shock:
On that occasion Nathan Hindmarsh inspired a come from behind 19-18 win against Penrith at the foot of the mountains in June 2012.
Since then the Eels haven't won on the road in their home state in 91 weeks.
Even the long-awaited return of the gold away jersey couldn't break the streak as the Sydney Roosters ran riot in the second half to win 56-4 on Saturday night.
It's the second time in three meetings the reigning premiers have racked up 50 points against the Eels.
It also firmly maintains the Roosters as the blue and gold's number one bogey team.
The tri-colours have won six of their last seven head-to-head matches for a combined score of 251-94.
Eels coach Brad Arthur said defence would be priority number one this week as they take on the other grand finalists from last year, Manly. Arthur was the assistant coach for the Sea Eagles in 2013.
"We need to be better with our defence, that's all there is to it: you can't give a good team like that back-to-back sets and good field position," Arthur said
"That brought us back to earth pretty quick."
Arthur will be hoping his team can bounce back pretty quickly and break an alarming trend of slow starts.
In the past five years the Eels have won only six from 20 games during rounds two-to-five.
The Eels will be bolstered by the return of round one man of the match Nathan Peats from suspension.
http://www.fairfieldchampion.com.au...a-eels-facing-sea-eagles-without-a-win/?cs=12
 

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It's going to be really tough this week against manly.

The first 6 weeks was always going to be tough with playing roosters twice , manly, Penrith (big improvers) and broncos away - it really doesn't give us any time to develop combinations against less ruthless sides (eg sides from around 5 to 16).

I was always of the opinion if we could get two wins from the first 6 it would be an ok start and 3 wins would be perfect. I am not to concern of our form in the first 6 weeks ( need to time to adapt to Arthur's structures). The last twenty rounds is where I want to see some serious improvement.
 

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"We (have) got this."

Specifically that the speaker is quite confident that his or her group either has a stressful situation under control, or that they have a marked advantage in a particular competitive endeavour.


Okay, that sounds good enough for me. I'm going to start using it.
 

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I like the cut of Paulo's jib. (Gib?) Especially the bit where he says: "Last year was last year, and this year is this year". Shows a great deal of insight.
 

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If he's still wondering whether this week will make or break us, then chances are we haven't learnt enough from last week (or last year) and going behind in this game will probably break us :(.
 

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I like the cut of Paulo's jib. (Gib?) Especially the bit where he says: "Last year was last year, and this year is this year". Shows a great deal of insight.

Or the bit where he says the team isn't dwelling on last year, it hasn't even come up..... But if we get belted this week it will be just like last year.
 

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Puddin' Hindy & Gaz picked the Eels over Manly on Sterlo last night.
 

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This is a HUGE game for the team and the fans. A win or a competitive loss will show the fans and team they can compete.

Another thrashing like last week and most of us will loose all faith and expect another tragic year. This is one of the biggest games in a long time as a test of character for the boys.
After the warriors game I forgot how good it felt to win. But after last week I remember how its been following the eels of late.
 
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This is a HUGE game for the team and the fans. A win or a competitive loss will show the fans and team they can compete.

Another thrashing like last week and most of us will loose all faith and expect another tragic year. This is one of the biggest games in a long time as a test of character for the boys.
After the warriors game I forgot how good it felt to win. But after last week I remember how its been following the eels of late.

Nothing but a win in every game is acceptable. If we don't think this way we will be getting the spoon every year. It's not good enough to accept losing, that's why we have a losing culture now. I'm sick of saying "but we tried hard"
 

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The objective every week should be to win and every season to win the premiership. I e never been a believer in the "let's just improve" or "five year plan" chestnut.
 

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The objective every week should be to win and every season to win the premiership. I e never been a believer in the "let's just improve" or "five year plan" chestnut.
agree that the players and coaching staff should have the mindset to win each week but when the team set their personal and group goals they need to be realistic in what they can achieve. if the golden ring is too far from their reach it could set the team back mentally when they miss their goals by heaps.
 

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agree that the players and coaching staff should have the mindset to win each week but when the team set their personal and group goals they need to be realistic in what they can achieve. if the golden ring is too far from their reach it could set the team back mentally when they miss their goals by heaps.

Exactly why athletes set their goals to beat their PB, rather than being the best in the world.

Even in a marathon, many runners chose to set 10km goals, rather than worrying about the Everest total of 42.195km.
 

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Exactly why athletes set their goals to beat their PB, rather than being the best in the world.

Even in a marathon, many runners chose to set 10km goals, rather than worrying about the Everest total of 42.195km.

That's soft. They should go in a 10k race if they're not serious about the marathon. Pea hearts.

Aiming for a PB is for losers. Should aim to be number 1.
 

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That's soft. They should go in a 10k race if they're not serious about the marathon. Pea hearts.

Aiming for a PB is for losers. Should aim to be number 1.
hahaa geez you crack me up.

this forum would be very boring if you and a few others stopped posting.
 

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Well it's like if you enter your horse in the Melbourne Cup (3200m). No point aiming for 1200m. That's not going to get you anywhere.
 
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