First coach sacked 2024

[Canard]

dolphins will be the same under woolfe

They finished 13th.

Its hardly some high bar to reach.

 

[Jackie Treehorn]

It's not his responsibility to set a club up for the future.

Debatable. Depends on the circumstances. I’m sure the Dolphins would hope he’s putting some thought into setting them up for the future, for example.

 

[Wb1234]

Bennett's contracted job at a club is to perform while he is there.

It's not his responsibility to set a club up for the future.

Until 2023 the Broncos, Knights, Souths and Dragons had not had a better year end finish since Bennett coached them.

A coach seeing out his contract and leaving on their own terms is incredibly rare since most are fired. It's not a job you can succession plan.

Bennett wanted a five year deal

doust the dope told him I’m only willing to do 3 given your age. When doust started begging him to stay it was too late

south’s made exactly the same mistake as have the dolphins

and results have shown the broncos were wrong sacking him both times

 

[Sphagnum]

JD is gone. No way he can save himself now.

FWIW, I don't think there is anything sinister with JD. I really think he is doing the absolute best he can.

He had the perfect credentials for a young coach to step up to NRL. Some people just aren't up to it, and that's fine.

We move on, do our due diligence, and get the best man for the job.

Imagine being latrell’s coach. He is lazy enough on the field. Im guessing he turns up to training once or twice a week to sit around eating kfc and sinking piss and takes the rest of the week off.

 

[Chimp]

JD is a good coach, he’s had success in every coaching position he’s held.
He doesn’t become a poor coach overnight - but the mistake he’s made here (and it’s an easy mistake for someone in his position) is that in the interest of keeping his star player (and his mates) happy and therefore performing well, he’s allowed that star player (who’s a bit of a diva), who’s got a bigger/better reputation than JD in the public eye, to rule the roost, and its bitten him on the arse.
JD doesn’t have the automatic respect from the players like Wayne would. Wayne can afford to give players plenty of slack, because he knows they’ll not take advantage, as they know Wayne wouldn’t accept that, and if they do take the piss, Wayne will come down on them and will have the full support of the club, as the club would look stupid to back a player over Wayne (with his proven track record).
Whereas, JD has given an inch (to try and manage personalities like Wayne did), but they’ve taken a mile, and likely know there’ll be no consequence, as they’re bigger and more important to the club than JD.
JD has been badly let down by certain players and the club - somebody within the club should have been telling JD long ago that he has their full support to pull certain players into line. JD is walking on eggshells around Latrell and Cody, and if everyone externally can see that, someone within Souths should have seen it and told JD to get all over them and nip it in the bud.

 

[Reflector]

He followed Bennett and failed. Can’t be a coincidence that keeps happening.

Bennett could recommend me for a 3way with Danika and Sydney Sweeney + a guest appearance from the newly single Isla Fischer and I'd knock it back

 

[King hit]

Record of coaches following Bennett in the NRL:

Ivan Henjak, Broncos:
2009 6th
2010 10th, sacked

Steve Price, Dragons
2012 9th
2013 14th
2014 11th, sacked mid season

Rick Stone, Knights
2015 16th, sacked mid season

Seibold, Broncos
2019 8th
2020 16th, sacked mid season

Demetriou, Souths
2022 6th
2023 9th
2024 Position currently “under review”.

And people still outright deny this

 

[Reflector]

JD is a good coach, he’s had success in every coaching position he’s held.
He doesn’t become a poor coach overnight - but the mistake he’s made here (and it’s an easy mistake for someone in his position) is that in the interest of keeping his star player (and his mates) happy and therefore performing well, he’s allowed that star player (who’s a bit of a diva), who’s got a bigger/better reputation than JD in the public eye, to rule the roost, and its bitten him on the arse.
JD doesn’t have the automatic respect from the players like Wayne would. Wayne can afford to give players plenty of slack, because he knows they’ll not take advantage, as they know Wayne wouldn’t accept that, and if they do take the piss, Wayne will come down on them and will have the full support of the club, as the club would look stupid to back a player over Wayne (with his proven track record).
Whereas, JD has given an inch (to try and manage personalities like Wayne did), but they’ve taken a mile, and likely know there’ll be no consequence, as they’re bigger and more important to the club than JD.
JD has been badly let down by certain players and the club - somebody within the club should have been telling JD long ago that he has their full support to pull certain players into line. JD is walking on eggshells around Latrell and Cody, and if everyone externally can see that, someone within Souths should have seen it and told JD to get all over them and nip it in the bud.

Freddy and Joey still talk about the times Gus put them on blast, decades after it happened.

In Freddy's case it was during the 1991 pre-season when he went AWOL up to the Gold Coast then rocked up to training in thongs riding a moped like he was Bart Simpson. Gus hauled him into an office, locked the door and blasted him. Told him to get stuffed and that if he saw the moped again, he'd shove it up Freddy's arse. Freddy was apparently in tears, went home, came back to training half an hour later in his mum's Ford Laser with his proper footy gear on and asked Gus how he looked? Gus said he looked like a footballer, told him to go warm up with the other blokes and that was it. The rest of Freddy's career speaks for itself...

In Joey's case it was during a NSW pre-series get together in Coogee in 2003. In front of the entire team during lunch Gus called out Joey for being overweight and unmotivated (who does this sound like?) and said Joey was using his Telegraph column to push for his Knights team-mates to get selected in the team and made Joey agree that this stopped now. Then after the lunch Joey was having a sook for being called out and "disrespected like that" (imagine my shock) and Gus took him down the street and basically told Joey he was "acting like a f**king big-head". Told Joey to go away, go surfing, get in shape and then come back in the right frame of mind and they could have a big series. Joey went on to captain NSW to a series win despite Qld hosting Game 1 and Game 3...

Bellamy is that sort of coach, but aside from that I don't know who Souths could get in that you could count on to risk hurting Latrell's feelings like that. What I do know is that as long as Latrell keeps acting like a 14 y/o, he's selling himself short as an athlete and we're being sold short as RL fans...

 

[Reflector]

Bennett wanted a five year deal

doust the dope told him I’m only willing to do 3 given your age. When doust started begging him to stay it was too late

south’s made exactly the same mistake as have the dolphins

and results have shown the broncos were wrong sacking him both times

Not that it matters now, but back in 2008 I thought Brisbane should've gone for John Lang as Wayne's successor. His time at Cronulla and Penrith showed he encouraged an open, up-tempo attacking style that would've suited the Broncos (still) rep-heavy roster. On top of that he's QRL/ Brisbane through and through, and the players he coached were all fond of him.

Some of the decisions the Broncos board have made since then have made me wonder if they're run by somebody who actually hates them?

 

[yobbo84]

I'd happily take Madge back. Even knowing full well it'd only last a couple of seasons. He wouldn't be scared of anyone.

 

[blue bags]

EELS have massive issues next 5 rounds
Not looking to good

 

[Canard]

JD is a good coach, he’s had success in every coaching position he’s held.
He doesn’t become a poor coach overnight - but the mistake he’s made here (and it’s an easy mistake for someone in his position) is that in the interest of keeping his star player (and his mates) happy and therefore performing well, he’s allowed that star player (who’s a bit of a diva), who’s got a bigger/better reputation than JD in the public eye, to rule the roost, and its bitten him on the arse.
JD doesn’t have the automatic respect from the players like Wayne would. Wayne can afford to give players plenty of slack, because he knows they’ll not take advantage, as they know Wayne wouldn’t accept that, and if they do take the piss, Wayne will come down on them and will have the full support of the club, as the club would look stupid to back a player over Wayne (with his proven track record).
Whereas, JD has given an inch (to try and manage personalities like Wayne did), but they’ve taken a mile, and likely know there’ll be no consequence, as they’re bigger and more important to the club than JD.
JD has been badly let down by certain players and the club - somebody within the club should have been telling JD long ago that he has their full support to pull certain players into line. JD is walking on eggshells around Latrell and Cody, and if everyone externally can see that, someone within Souths should have seen it and told JD to get all over them and nip it in the bud.

That doesn't sound like a good coach at all.

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

Bennett's contracted job at a club is to perform while he is there.

It's not his responsibility to set a club up for the future.

Until 2023 the Broncos, Knights, Souths and Dragons had not had a better year end finish since Bennett coached them.

A coach seeing out his contract and leaving on their own terms is incredibly rare since most are fired. It's not a job you can succession plan.

I’m not sure I agree. The coach is part of a club’s administration and just like the GM or CEO, setting up a legacy should be part of your charter. Future-building means you’re more likely to remain in your job.

 

[Munky]

I’m not sure I agree. The coach is part of a club’s administration and just like the GM or CEO, setting up a legacy should be part of your charter. Future-building means you’re more likely to remain in your job.

Except an NRL coach who leaves a club and wants to continue their career is moving to a direct competitor.

Why strengthen your competition?

If you want an employee to care about about a previous employer then add some milestone based deferred compensation.

The Broncos (x2), Souths and Dragons all had decent squads when Bennett left them. Management f**king up the succession plan is on them.

 

[Jackie Treehorn]

Except an NRL coach who leaves a club and wants to continue their career is moving to a direct competitor.

Why strengthen your competition?

If you want an employee to care about about a previous employer then add some milestone based deferred compensation.

The Broncos (x2), Souths and Dragons all had decent squads when Bennett left them. Management f**king up the succession plan is on them.

The way the NRL is though you need to be putting some thought into long term planning and cap management. For any prospective coach that would be part of the conversation in an interview. Any coach who goes into an interview and says I’ll give you two or three good years but then I don’t care what happens after that, not my problem, he won’t get the job. So I imagine in some cases, assurances are made about long term planning and success in interviews but then it doesn’t happen. The wheels fall off. Seems to happen repeatedly in some cases.

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

Except an NRL coach who leaves a club and wants to continue their career is moving to a direct competitor.

Why strengthen your competition?

If you want an employee to care about about a previous employer then add some milestone based deferred compensation.

The Broncos (x2), Souths and Dragons all had decent squads when Bennett left them. Management f**king up the succession plan is on them.

Coaches don’t leave voluntarily, do they? Except Gibson maybe. I’m not sure you should have a situation where a coach ignores his responsibilities in setting up player development and recruitment systems/strategies just in case he gets fired or even leaves voluntarily because another coach gets the benefits of his hard work.

 

[Scott]

First coach sacked 2024 - Is there a chance that Parramatta could pull the trigger on Brad Arthur relatively quickly with the aim being to get Wayne Bennett before Souths do?

 

[Wb1234]

Bennett told south’s to keep Reynolds

their collapse is solely on Blake solly and Nick pappas

Newcastle post bennett collapse was because the club went broke

the dragons players either left or retired because price was a dud

 

[yobbo84]

Bennett told south’s to keep Reynolds

While simultaneously telling Reynolds how good Brisbane is, how much he'd love it up there, and how good it'd be for his family....

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

While simultaneously telling Reynolds how good Brisbane is, how much he'd love it up there, and how good it'd be for his family....

I’m sure that was offered as an alternative in the likely event he didn’t get the deal he wanted from Souths