Forward passes

[butchmcdick]

Eliminate the risk.

Ban passing altogether.

Just a bit of seppo bullshit the West Indies have introduced to the game

 

[butchmcdick]

Eliminate the risk.

Ban passing altogether.

It works for Tariq Sims and Martin Lang

 

[POPEYE]

Wow. Fine I'll simplify it for you. The passer must compensate so that the ball is caught by the receiver behind or in line with where the ball is thrown from

Just watched a documentary where the best Spitfire pilot in the fight for Malta was so unique that his 'kills' weren't caught on his gun camera because he fired way in front of the enemy plane. No other pilot could come close to matching him . . . the horseshit you're suggesting sounds good, horseshit nevertheless

 

[T-Boon]

the horseshit you're suggesting sounds good, horseshit nevertheless

Go look at film from the 80s. It is possible to not throw forward passes. Don't play so flat. The game was intended to be played the way it was played back then.

 

[T-Boon]

and I'm not even going to waste time with a removing players argument.

Thats because you know it makes sense to go to 11 men. There is no argument against it.

 

[POPEYE]

Go look at film from the 80s. It is possible to not throw forward passes. Don't play so flat. The game should be called flat wrestle ball.

Passes haven't changed since the 60's, I was there . . . when a bloke passes a ball most of the time the bloke he passes it to is travelling at the same speed but behind him, by the time he catches it GPS is irrelevant . . . I'm only here to practice my crayon, don't think I'm interested in anything you say

 

[johnny plath]

No. The words were 'players have to compensate...... so the ball is CAUGHT behind...' that would indicate the catcher must compensate. How is that possible?? Again is the catcher to stop & wait or does he need to turn and twist so his hands are behind him?? This all played out against the backdrop of physics. And if you want to bring up the 80's let's go back to feeding the scrum in the middle and leather balls. My point is forward passes will happen, you can't stop them. It's up to the refs to police it better.

stand deeper and run onto the ball behind where its passed from. not that tricky, but its become a hard concept since chris anderson introduced really flat attacking systems when he was at melbourne, and they became a thing. I know its different era, different footy, but I remember attacking backlines that fanned back maybe 30 meters if not more. Still managed to score somehow.

 

[Life's Good]

Wow. Fine I'll simplify it for you. The passer must compensate so that the ball is caught by the receiver behind or in line with where the ball is thrown from

Ok so give an example of this so called compensation.

 

[Life's Good]

stand deeper and run onto the ball behind where its passed from. not that tricky, but its become a hard concept since chris anderson introduced really flat attacking systems when he was at melbourne, and they became a thing. I know its different era, different footy, but I remember attacking backlines that fanned back maybe 30 meters if not more. Still managed to score somehow.

I get that but forward passes still occurred though.

 

[beave]

I didn't think it could happen, but I am actually more stupid after reading this thread.

Burn the f**king thing.

 

[POPEYE]

Ok so give an example of this so called compensation.

The fighter pilots I mentioned also called it 'compensation' but it was in the too-hard basket, the best most could do was aim and pull the trigger . . . not that hard for a RL player to aim at a player running beside or behind, direction out of the hands is the only criteria

 

[AlwaysGreen]

Seriously can this one track wonder T goon be confined to the cave.

Prick derails every thread with his bullshit.

 

[Amin Yashed]

Seriously can this one track wonder T goon be confined to the cave.

Prick derails every thread with his bullshit.

He does tend to ramble on a lot. Same crap over & over pretty much.

 

[KeepingTheFaith]

Thats because you know it makes sense to go to 11 men. There is no argument against it.

When you go back and cherry pick something from a post you already quoted previously when the convo has since gone well passed, it's obvious you're just trolling.

 

[POPEYE]

In the 'old days' of standing very deep the idea was to give the receiver time to build up enough speed to break the line, over the years its been found the more effective way is to run into gaps that are created because the defence isn't sure where the ball's going, hence flat passing . . . no rocket science in RL but there has been some improvements

 

[KeepingTheFaith]

In the 'old days' of standing very deep the idea was to give the receiver time to build up enough speed to break the line, over the years its been found the more effective way is to run into gaps that are created because the defence isn't sure where the ball's going, hence flat passing . . . no rocket science in RL but there has been some improvements

Spot on, and these days players are too fit, athletic, and organised for the old way to be consistently effective.

 

[wibble]

If we throw t-boon off the back of a truck at 60kmph will he travel forwards or backwards ?

Only one way to find out...

Seriously, do all you mathematically challenged people who want players to come to a near stop before passing actually remotely understand physics?

On a line break, running near full speed, with a player in support, if a player was running at about 7 metres/second (not unreasonable, 14 seconds for 100 metres- we know many players can run much faster than that in ideal conditions), THERE IS NO WAY they can pass the ball so it does not also travel forward at about 7 metres per second, except by slowing their pace.

Think about that. 7 metres per second. Over 2 seconds, a not unreasonable flight time for a passed ball, the ball passed flat at this speed would travel close to 14 metres forward.

If you pass it at 30 degrees behind you (which is quite a deep angle behind you) at faster than sprinting speed (say 10 metres per second) the ball will still travel 2 metres per second forward, so 4 metres for a 2 second pass.

The game would become a farce if passing to support players on a line break could only happen if the players slow right up.

Ironically, at the moment the most common time a forward pass gets called when it wasn't forward (on our regular definition, not the made up one some on this forum want) is when a player slows up just before the pass...

So even if we did make that a rule the slow folk in these parts would still be blowing up that those passes are forward, meaning we might as well make it netball and have no one running with the ball.

 

[T-Boon]

Spot on, and these days players are too fit, athletic, and organised for the old way to be consistently effective.

Thats a good argument for 11 men. Not flat and forward passes and multiple decoy runners running into offside positions every play.

 

[POPEYE]

How'd you get 432 Boony . . . how many accounts do you have

 

[thorson1987]

Ok so give an example of this so called compensation.

He can't because it's f**king stupid.

Passes are judged in relation to the player passing the ball.