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Four Broncos cleared of sex assault allegations

~knights~

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Yeah it's really disappointing that a police minister would uphold the law of presuming innocence until proven guilty. How shocking. Maybe people should actually read her quotes rather than the fluff the journo has put around them trying to twist her comments. She's basically stating that she is not going to pre-judge the players until the conclusion of the investigation.

what twisted comments

I saw her say them on the tele

I just found it odd for her to urge people to go the game as it's an important game

strange reaction
 

Surely

Post Whore
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And your comeback regarding the issue of whether the club suspects Bird lied to them, and the issue of the Police's statement that they suspect Bird lied to them? And the discussion about Bird possibly being on the last chance of a three stirkes your out Club policy?

Or you can ignore these points and just keep feeling hard done by...


He wouldn't be the first player to lie about an incedent in the heat of the moment, he was probably even advised by someone to deny he was involved.

As for the 3 strikes what would that be maestro ?

The bogus qld police arrest ?

The lara bingle txt message ?

He sure has a history of assaulting people doesn't he ?
 

Fathead

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couple of questions
1. why form a crime scene if the only offence was filming a sexual act without consent?
2. why all the headlines about sexual assualt at the beginning? wasn't the girl in question straight up with police about what happened from the beginning?

1. Perhaps there are more than the 3 persons involved ??;-)
2. Yes - refer to answer for question 1.
 

bartman

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He wouldn't be the first player to lie about an incedent in the heat of the moment, he was probably even advised by someone to deny he was involved.
And hence he shouldn't feel cheesed off at being stood down pending outcome of the trial. Simple.

As for the 3 strikes what would that be maestro ?
Just speculating, but if Bird had breeched the club code of conduct previously (not necessarily violence - and there have been reports of him being more wayward in his younger days and the club taking him under their wing) then that puts the club in a position to quite rightly stand the player down if they so choose.

Either way they did choose, and Bird is stood down. End of story, and nothing at all to do with the Bronco's situation. Build a bridge...
 

Brownie.Kougari

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Does anyone else think there's a good chance there won't be any charges laid and the media will look like c**ks? :lol:

Innocent until proven guilty. If guilty of something serious (I don't even know what they may or may not be charged of anymore) then sack them.
 

Mut

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In the wake of the allegations and accusations of the petulant Broncos players in the Valley earlier in the week. I wonder if anyone besides Mut took notice of the fact that Lockyer had asked his players to invoke an alcohol ban.

This obviously fell on deaf ears for the new breed of star players in the camp who are accused, and makes Mut wonder if he has the sides respect?

Radiers fans would attest that Tounge wishes would be adhered too, same with Fitzgibbon at the Roosters, or Buderus at the Knights...

That aside... Who is running the Broncos? A ban is a ban. The players have broken the rules but are still selected in the finals this week. What did Ian Lacey and Seymour do to be released form the club?

Nothing!

It was nearly identical situation that saw Seymour be banished to 'punish' him. If 'punish' means help salary cap pressure than you are spot on...

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It seems when the stakes are at their highest, the Broncos are at their most contradictory... Mut does not want to hear anymore about this club being the tightest and strictess in the league. Its just bollocks that suits their own agenda, to play themselves up as being matyrs for the league, the jewel in the crown...

Mut hope the Storm destroy them, and Saab can than watch the finals with muts side still running around safe in the knowledge that 2008 is over, and with the poo going on at the place so is the next 25 years...

Wooooo!
 
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Razor

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Mut does not want to hear anymore about this club being the tightest and strictess in the league. Its just bollocks that suits their own agenda, to play themselves up as being matyrs for the league, the jewel in the crown...

That is the most important part of this incident. Not what they did, but the Broncos very public stance on player behaviour. They must take action that matches what they constantly claim their policy to be.

In the wake of the allegations and accusations of the petulant Broncos players in the Valley earlier in the week. I wonder if anyone besides Mut took notice of the fact that Lockyer had asked his players to invoke an alcohol ban.

There was an article in this mornings paper about that. On Lockyer's poor leadership and that this wouldn't have happened to past captains at the Broncos. Nothing against him, some players just aren't made to be captain. The best player shouldn't necessarily be the captain of the club.
 

perverse

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always a fan of your work mut. yes, the broncos actions thus far stink of hypocrisy. i couldn't agree more, and i too thought it was quite odd that lockyers suggestion of an alcohol ban wasn't actioned or adhered too. i find a lack of respect unlikely though... i mean even i respect the bloke, and i f**king hate him. unless you're insinuating that an off field incident has caused this?

i hope both teams cripple each other and the winner can't field a team next week.
 

Ghoulies

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In the wake of the allegations and accusations of the petulant Broncos players in the Valley earlier in the week. I wonder if anyone besides Mut took notice of the fact that Lockyer had asked his players to invoke an alcohol ban.

This obviously fell on deaf ears for the new breed of star players in the camp who are accused, and makes Mut wonder if he has the sides respect?

Radiers fans would attest that Tounge wishes would be adhered too, same with Fitzgibbon at the Roosters, or Buderus at the Knights...

That aside... Who is running the Broncos? A ban is a ban. The players have broken the rules but are still selected in the finals this week. What did Ian Lacey and Seymour do to be released form the club?

Nothing!

It was nearly identical situation that saw Seymour be banished to 'punish' him. If 'punish' means help salary cap pressure than you are spot on...

*edit*
It seems when the stakes are at their highest, the Broncos are at their most contradictory... Mut does not want to hear anymore about this club being the tightest and strictess in the league. Its just bollocks that suits their own agenda, to play themselves up as being matyrs for the league, the jewel in the crown...

Mut hope the Storm destroy them, and Saab can than watch the finals with muts side still running around safe in the knowledge that 2008 is over, and with the poo going on at the place so is the next 25 years...

Wooooo!
The Mut is a bit late. We can only really tolerate the one forum idiot per subject and Razor got first crack. Sorry!

But because I'm in a good mood I'll humour you for a bit. Seymour was sacked after an internal investigation was held and he was found to be in breach of the clubs code of conduct (not for the first time, mind you).

As for the captaincy issue, while it's lovely that you think that "Raiders fans would attest that Tongues wishes would be adhered to etc.", it means f**k all. The majority of club fans have no idea about the dynamics of their teams relationships. Plus, Fitzy isn't the Rooster's captain anymore (oops!).

At least give it a bit of time before you start crying hypocrisy. There's still time for the Broncos to do the right thing if necessary.
 
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what twisted comments

I saw her say them on the tele

I just found it odd for her to urge people to go the game as it's an important game

strange reaction

I think its fair enough to say lets not prejudge - but I think she went too far in serving as the Broncos' cheer squad.
 

twopac

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There is no alcohol ban on the Broncos players. Lockyer addressed the playing group that they shouldn't consume too much as it may only lead to trouble.
 

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