The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[MugaB]

Lets hope this a reality, not just a threat!

You just know this is some sort of play for the tigers faithful to riot against the govt decision...
They won't move from there

 

[Perth Red]

Maybe the solution for the Tigers is to play half the games at Campbelltown, and half the games either at Allianz or Commbank.

Tigers could get corporate support at either Allianz or Commbank, and has a better chance of getting funding at Campbelltown with MacArthur FC as co tenants.

I dont think they can justify moving more games to Campbelltown until there is a clear commitment for an upgrade. Crowds are terrible and corporate facilities are sorely lacking. It wouldn't be a sound financial decision until the stadium is significantly upgraded. 8+4 at commbank or Allianz & Campbelltown is the go for now imo. That could be reversed if Campbelltown ever got rebuilt.

 

[Perth Red]

Why wait until 2023? Contractual obligations?

Because its a threat and gives them a year to use that threat to change the NSW govt mind! Id love to know how they think that spending $50mill on LO is going to do anything to make it like a decent stadium!

 

[Iamback]

If only they had someone better than Pascoe in charge.

Build the Coe into Leichardt or Campbelltown Stadium and get the upgrades needed aswell

 

[Colk]

If only they had someone better than Pascoe in charge.

Build the Coe into Leichardt or Campbelltown Stadium and get the upgrades needed aswell

Leichhardt is so behind the times just leave it at as a local community ground or for second tier competitions

 

[Captain Apollo]

Leichhardt is so behind the times just leave it at as a local community ground or for second tier competitions

That's what has become the problem, many of these stadiums (e.g. Leichhardt Oval, Kogarah) are owned by the relevant local council, and NSW local councils have not spent too much money on them for quite a while. Some it is relative neglect, but also because they don't have the finances to spend on them.

That's why some of them have become so dilapidated and without State or Federal money are unlikely to get much spent on them.

 

[Colk]

That's what has become the problem, many of these stadiums (e.g. Leichhardt Oval, Kogarah) are owned by the relevant local council, and NSW local councils have not spent too much money on them for quite a while. Some it is relative neglect, but also because they don't have the finances to spend on them.

That's why some of them have become so dilapidated and without State or Federal money are unlikely to get much spent on them.

In those examples, those grounds are probably a chain around those clubs’ necks. It is definitely the case for the Tigers as they could play at multiple better stadiums due to their geography.

Even forgetting about Jubilee might push the Dragons to become more of a Gong side and play their big games at the SFS

The only grounds which could be argued to be upgraded are Brookie, Shark Park and Penrith.

 

[Iamback]

Leichhardt is so behind the times just leave it at as a local community ground or for second tier competitions

If they had a decent front office they would do that

 

[It's Been Done]

Hindmarsh Stadium upgrade

Something like this at Hindmarsh in Adelaide is what Redcliffe should aim for at Moreton Daily, in fact, the current design of their ground looks to be partially inspired by Hindmarsh which is more designed for Soccer than Rugby League

 

[jim_57]

I dont think they can justify moving more games to Campbelltown until there is a clear commitment for an upgrade. Crowds are terrible and corporate facilities are sorely lacking. It wouldn't be a sound financial decision until the stadium is significantly upgraded. 8+4 at commbank or Allianz & Campbelltown is the go for now imo. That could be reversed if Campbelltown ever got rebuilt.

Chicken & egg. Campbelltown won’t get an upgrade or rebuild while Tigers only play a few there each year. I believe they have made noise about playing more there from next year onwards.

If the Tigers commited to a minimum 10 games there a season plus finals (lol) pending a rebuild along with Macarthur FC they’d have a decent case.

 

[Cumberland Throw]

Accor sucks nearly as much as suburban dumps!
allianz is exactly same distance from Canterbury as Accor, maybe they should really annoy the roosters and move there as well lol

It is Canterbury Bankstown mate..with a lot more fans in Bankstown ..

Which is 10km west of Canterbury and one of the biggest culturally diverse 10km in Australia

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

It is Canterbury Bankstown mate..with a lot more fans in Bankstown ..

Which is 10km west of Canterbury and one of the biggest culturally diverse 10km in Australia

Hey, PR has been to Sydney. He knows stuff

 

[Perth Red]

Chicken & egg. Campbelltown won’t get an upgrade or rebuild while Tigers only play a few there each year. I believe they have made noise about playing more there from next year onwards.

If the Tigers commited to a minimum 10 games there a season plus finals (lol) pending a rebuild along with Macarthur FC they’d have a decent case.

They could commit to that IF a proper stadium is funded. Until that commitment they should play as few as possible there.

 

[Perth Red]

Hindmarsh Stadium upgrade

Something like this at Hindmarsh in Adelaide is what Redcliffe should aim for at Moreton Daily, in fact, the current design of their ground looks to be partially inspired by Hindmarsh which is more designed for Soccer than Rugby League

THE Dolphins should be at suncorp, you know being Brisbanes second club and all that

 

[Perth Red]

ACT Sport Minister Yvette Berry backed the decision to shift the focus away from Civic and on to the AIS plans.

"We need to have these conversations with the sports commission and with the new federal Labor government about what that could look like, but I reckon there's some great possibilities for that area as a sports precinct, in hospitality and accommodation," Berry said.
"There's opportunities. Everybody in Canberra wants a new stadium, we all agree. When and where is the thing everybody wants to know. Both Andrew and I have written to Kieren, the new [commission] chief executive."

Pocock said the government needed an "ambitious vision" for Canberra.
"This is about more than just Brumbies or Raiders games, it's about attracting new teams, creating a space for major music concerts and also investing in a new convention space for business events," he said.
"I appreciate there are pressures on the budget but I also know there are plenty of private sector investors who will pitch in to help fund this if we get the setting right.
"We've seen new venues in places like Townsville and Geelong totally revitalise the town and local economy. That's what I want for Canberra."
Barr, who was at the federal government's jobs summit on Thursday, said the ACT would declare the AIS project an "urban renewal precinct and undertake the same sort of activity as the Kingston Foreshore and West Basin."
"There are concepts we developed 13 years ago ... it's not as if there's been no thinking [about Bruce].
"Bruce was always the least encumbered, it's already there and there's a lot of land. It's weaknesses at the moment are there's nothing else out there.
"Unfortunately, the cost of the perfect outcome [in Civic] is just too high. So we go with a very good outcome."

AIS meeting set to start precinct redevelopment talks

"One thing is abundantly clear: there's a massive amount of surplus land there ... We are interested in...

www.canberratimes.com.au

 

[Perth Red]

Maybe a reason they bailed on other upgrades?

The Allianz Stadium rebuild came in 20 per cent over its original budget, costing every man, woman and child in NSW $106 each.
Infrastructure NSW and Venues NSW have confirmed the construction of Sydney's premier rectangular stadium cost $874 million.
The stadium - which will host its first matches on Friday, a NRLW-NRL double-header - was initially allocated $729 million by the NSW government ahead of the 2019 election.
That later ballooned to $828 million.
While Infrastructure NSW told a budget estimates hearing on Thursday it expected a final bill of $820 million, falling under the revised budget, an additional $53.7 million is also attributable to the reconstruction of Venues NSW facilities.

Allianz rebuild $145m over original budget

The Allianz Stadium rebuild came in 20 per cent over its original budget, costing every man, woman and...

www.canberratimes.com.au

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

Maybe a reason they bailed on other upgrades?

The Allianz Stadium rebuild came in 20 per cent over its original budget, costing every man, woman and child in NSW $106 each.
Infrastructure NSW and Venues NSW have confirmed the construction of Sydney's premier rectangular stadium cost $874 million.
The stadium - which will host its first matches on Friday, a NRLW-NRL double-header - was initially allocated $729 million by the NSW government ahead of the 2019 election.
That later ballooned to $828 million.
While Infrastructure NSW told a budget estimates hearing on Thursday it expected a final bill of $820 million, falling under the revised budget, an additional $53.7 million is also attributable to the reconstruction of Venues NSW facilities.

Allianz rebuild $145m over original budget

The Allianz Stadium rebuild came in 20 per cent over its original budget, costing every man, woman and...

www.canberratimes.com.au

Wouldn’t surprise but the government‘s also lost the will given how toxic the debate has become. Listening to talk-back, people still think they’re building stadia instead of schools and hospitals. Fitzy did a good job there.

 

[Captain Apollo]

Wouldn’t surprise but the government‘s also lost the will given how toxic the debate has become. Listening to talk-back, people still think they’re building stadia instead of schools and hospitals. Fitzy did a good job there.

It doesn't help when even Perrottet says they almost lost the last election over the stadium issue. Talk about re-writing history, especially when it didn't give the Opposition much traction at the time. Right now it is not the cause of his Government's woes. I'd suggest stuff centred around John Barilaro have had a greater influence.

 

[big hit!]

In those examples, those grounds are probably a chain around those clubs’ necks. It is definitely the case for the Tigers as they could play at multiple better stadiums due to their geography.

Even forgetting about Jubilee might push the Dragons to become more of a Gong side and play their big games at the SFS

The only grounds which could be argued to be upgraded are Brookie, Shark Park and Penrith.

They are a gong side. They're based down there. Even their flegg side is, and they play their games at various venues in the Illawarra.

Dragons pathways don't even get to play on Jubilee much (apart from a semi tomorrow but that's because it aligns with NRL for once). There are never stand alone pathways matches at Jubilee like you would have with Manly or Cronulla or Balmain at Brookie, Woolooware and Leichhardt respectively. The St George Ball and Matts sides (not affiliated with Illawarra who have their own teams at that level) use Mascot Oval as their home ground for games.

 

[Steel Saints]

They could commit to that IF a proper stadium is funded. Until that commitment they should play as few as possible there.

Like jim said, it's chicken or the egg. If the Tigers play as "few as possible" at Campbelltown, then funding for that venue would be a little bit harder forthcoming.

And as a club, throughout their entire existence since the Western Suburbs Magpies and Balmain Tigers merged, they've had too many home grounds. This year, the Tigers allocation of home games were:

Commbank (4)- Storm, Souths, Panthers, Dragons
Leichhardt (3)- Eels, Raiders, Bulldogs
Campbelltown (3)- Warriors, Sea Eagles, Knights.
Suncorp (1)- Cowboys
Tamworth (1)- Sharks

So yeah, only 3 games at Campbelltown this year, while at Commbank, it had the bigger drawing matches. The Tigers used 5 home grounds and are spreading themselves too thin.

If there is some sort of disconnect between themselves and Campbelltown, then it's no surprise. There is a lack of presence in the south west corridor, an area the Tigers should be focusing more, not negligenting.

From an outsider looking in, the Wests Tigers look like a club without an identity both on and off the field. By the end of this season, they will get the wooden spoon.

If the Tigers want to rise, not only does it need to get the recruitment and coaching right, but also use the right home grounds (Campbelltown, Commbank) with fairer and equal allocation of matches. That would appease both sides of the merger (Balmain, Wests). A tricky balancing act.

However, IMO, Wests Tigers future is the south west corridor- Campbelltown. They should embrace the area, not negligent it.