The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

[Pneuma]

Yep age itself isn’t a problem, take a look at the history of that Real Madrid stadium, it’s 76 years old and has been expanded, reconfigured and had cover added over the years. Stadiums should have lifespans of 50+ years if they’re designed properly in the first place.
Accor’s problem is that it’s just fundamentally the wrong shape for the rectangular football codes. It’s too big and has a pretty shallow rake, and no amount of tinkering can fix that.

Well according to they idiot Shepherd it should be reconfigured for the fumblers because you know the Gnats draw such big crowds! What a wanker.

 

[Vee]

Well according to they idiot Shepherd it should be reconfigured for the fumblers because you know the Gnats draw such big crowds! What a wanker.

And it still wouldn't surprise me if it happens. It's about influence, right got nothing to do with it.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Well in that case, they in the past would have dropped the Warriors, Tigers,Titans and yes the Sharks.
Performance is based on many factors, competitiveness, crowds, facilities, ownership of said facilities, Tv ratings in the cap city they occupy and Tv ratings generally , merchandise sales , business sponsorship, social impact in their area, juniors. And that melad would encompass any new club.

Well that was pretty much what the criteria post superleague were supposed to take account of- the Warriors and Titans would likely survive because of factors beyond on-field performance, crowds and profitability, Tigers and Sharks probably not so much being in Sydney

 

[Pneuma]

And it still wouldn't surprise me if it happens. It's about influence, right got nothing to do with it.

I’d suggest that would wind up Australian soccer and rugby league to the point of no return.

 

[Wb1234]

I wonder if a certain person had any criticism of the money wasted on GWS when they entered the AFL.First they were going to set up a base at Blacktown and do wonders for the community, they got NSW Govt largesse.Then they reneged and moved to Homebush area, got further dosh toward their stadium .Then one looks at their impact in the community with bigger crowds I've seen at BBQs, even when they are competitive the reaction in Sydney is "meh".
And no doubt the same gent will be expecting State Govt financial stadium assistance should his team be admitted.
What he seems to forget, NRL fans tend to be tax payers, unless we all live in Nimbin smoking the funny stuff and are committed vegans.They are consumers of products where the same State & Fed extract taxes.

He calls that gws and investment

 

[Wb1234]

That is why you don't play club games at National stadiums. Wembley doesn't have a club team.

Tbf premier league does have some massive stadium that do get sold out every week

but stadia over 30k aren’t fit for club rugby league games

the reality is there are too many games in time slots that are bad for crowds so 30k is big enough for 90 percent of nrl games

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Well according to they idiot Shepherd it should be reconfigured for the fumblers because you know the Gnats draw such big crowds! What a wanker.

Honestly… might as well let them have it, build a proper rectangle somewhere else and save on the demolition costs.

 

[taipan]

Well that was pretty much what the criteria post superleague were supposed to take account of- the Warriors and Titans would likely survive because of factors beyond on-field performance, crowds and profitability, Tigers and Sharks probably not so much being in Sydney

The Sharks were in the firing line of Arko prior to the SL war breaking out.The fact the Sharks went to SL saved them and their future.IMO the only thing the News/Murdoch organisation has done I would give them thumbs up.
And it was not in the goodness of their hearts, they were desperate for teams to go to SL
The Sharks have lived the death of a thousand cuts many times, but like Rambo they can't be knocked off.

 

[Wb1234]

Honestly… might as well let them have it, build a proper rectangle somewhere else and save on the demolition costs.

Nooo

gws will take it and become as big as the swans

The Sharks were in the firing line of Arko prior to the SL war breaking out.The fact the Sharks went to SL saved them and their future.IMO the only thing the News/Murdoch organisation has done I would give them thumbs up.
And it was not in the goodness of their hearts, they were desperate for teams to go to SL
The Sharks have lived the death of a thousand cuts many times, but like Rambo they can't be knocked off.

Establishing the storm

they could’ve kept the 100 million they took out of the game but they put it back into the storm

 

[taipan]

Nooo

gws will take it and become as big as the swans

Establishing the storm

they could’ve kept the 100 million they took out of the game but they put it back into the storm

That's the thing that gave me the tom tits.They owned half the NRL for so many years and received half the profits plus got the benefit of Pay TV.The game as a whole particularly the grassroots gained SFA benefit .
No one really knows the full financial impact from 1995 when SL noises started appearing until they left the game in the hands of the game itself.
But I will say this we had in 1995 prior to the cluster.ck, I understand at least $25M + in the kitty.Double money every 10 years by 2015 technically we could have had $100m in the bank.We could have still saved tottering clubs ,spent money on grassroots that never happened and wait for it bought into infrastructure/assets.

 

[docbrown]

That's the thing that gave me the tom tits.They owned half the NRL for so many years and received half the profits plus got the benefit of Pay TV.The game as a whole particularly the grassroots gained SFA benefit .
No one really knows the full financial impact from 1995 when SL noises started appearing until they left the game in the hands of the game itself.
But I will say this we had in 1995 prior to the cluster.ck, I understand at least $25M + in the kitty.Double money every 10 years by 2015 technically we could have had $100m in the bank.We could have still saved tottering clubs ,spent money on grassroots that never happened and wait for it bought into infrastructure/assets.

If memory serves me, weren't the Sharks brought in because the CRL didn't want Illawarra in the Sydney comp and the NSWRL wanted another team when Penrith came in? Also they wanted another club in the south to depower St George? Seems like the Sharks owe a lot to quirks of history.

 

[docbrown]

The Sharks were in the firing line of Arko prior to the SL war breaking out.The fact the Sharks went to SL saved them and their future.IMO the only thing the News/Murdoch organisation has done I would give them thumbs up.
And it was not in the goodness of their hearts, they were desperate for teams to go to SL
The Sharks have lived the death of a thousand cuts many times, but like Rambo they can't be knocked off.

If Super League never happened, Sydney teams would still have merged, relocated or been booted from the comp. It's just that Super League forced things in a much more disorganised way.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

I don’t buy that GAwd will b come as big as the Swans if they get to use Accor. An extra 20K+ aren’t going to start showing up just because they move. We should concentrate 100% on what’s good for OUR game. Other codes arent even part of the equation

 

[Wb1234]

If Super League never happened, Sydney teams would still have merged, relocated or been booted from the comp. It's just that Super League forced things in a much more disorganised way.

Maybe one or two maybe none

south’s and manly are testimony to the failed peace deal in 97

 

[Wb1234]

That's the thing that gave me the tom tits.They owned half the NRL for so many years and received half the profits plus got the benefit of Pay TV.The game as a whole particularly the grassroots gained SFA benefit .
No one really knows the full financial impact from 1995 when SL noises started appearing until they left the game in the hands of the game itself.
But I will say this we had in 1995 prior to the cluster.ck, I understand at least $25M + in the kitty.Double money every 10 years by 2015 technically we could have had $100m in the bank.We could have still saved tottering clubs ,spent money on grassroots that never happened and wait for it bought into infrastructure/assets.

Well I was only mentioning the positives which were few

if I wanted to talk about the negatives it would be paragraphs

they still exert undue influence today and pay us unders so they can pay afl more

the game needs to be free of both nine and fox but it also needs a lot more money

it’ll take a decade of the current growth where league will be in a position to dictate to broadcasters like the afl do

 

[MugaB]

The Sharks were in the firing line of Arko prior to the SL war breaking out.The fact the Sharks went to SL saved them and their future.IMO the only thing the News/Murdoch organisation has done I would give them thumbs up.
And it was not in the goodness of their hearts, they were desperate for teams to go to SL
The Sharks have lived the death of a thousand cuts many times, but like Rambo they can't be knocked off.

Whatever possessed god in heaven to make a man like Rambo
God didn't make Rambo.
I made him.
'Nothing is over nothing',you just don't turn it off,it wasn't my war!!

 

[taipan]

If memory serves me, weren't the Sharks brought in because the CRL didn't want Illawarra in the Sydney comp and the NSWRL wanted another team when Penrith came in? Also they wanted another club in the south to depower St George? Seems like the Sharks owe a lot to quirks of history.

Can't help you on that one.All I know the club then known as Cronulla Caringbah were involved in an inter district comp, from 1963.-1966 which involved the likes of Wentworthville, Sydney Uni, Penrith.
Then invited in for 1967 with the Penrith mob.
Certainly the Dragons were so dominant, they needed to be cut down to size.My wife was a Dragon's fanatic.
So yeah history played its part as it does with most things in life. But I will give them this they ended up owning their ground a rarity in these times and nearly went down the tube on at least 4-5 occasions.Being down in the financial basement at times, tends to make you stronger and wiser in the long run.

 

[MugaB]

Being down in the financial basement at times, tends to make you stronger and wiser in the long run.

Up Up!

 

[taipan]

Well I was only mentioning the positives which were few

if I wanted to talk about the negatives it would be paragraphs

they still exert undue influence today and pay us unders so they can pay afl more

the game needs to be free of both nine and fox but it also needs a lot more money

it’ll take a decade of the current growth where league will be in a position to dictate to broadcasters like the afl do

The harsh reality is we have a small population less than California, 3 FTA stations and one Pay TV.
We dislike the Murdoch control via their cable network, but they are the ones with the ability to pay the lions share of any TV deals. We want the money we have to get into bed with them like a whore.
The other motley FTA outlets ,have 10 whose ratings are lower than a wombat's a*se, 9 who cries poor mouth and couldn't promote ice cream to a Bedouin and 7 who have the bread but are so entwined with AFL I can't see them taking NRL except by the cherry pick method, SOO and possibly 1 weeknight( I hope I'm wrong BTW)

 

[taipan]

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Up Up!

That reminds me of my bucks night.