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The Game Future NRL Stadiums part II

taipan

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Pity they couldn’t smuggle a full set of decent teeth into the game....

I've been trying to figure out, how uncomfortable it would be to suck a hot dog from a thermos, when teeth are lacking.
 

ACTPanthers

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I've been trying to figure out, how uncomfortable it would be to suck a hot dog from a thermos, when teeth are lacking.

Also, it'd make every one else in the area uncomfortable watching it... It'd be worse than walking in on your parents...
 

beave

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So back to actual stadium news......

https://www.townsvillebulletin.com....p/news-story/18c8be5d448205cc8db4a884ef0a160e

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800 pylons driven into ground as works on new $250 million Townsville stadium ramp up

EIGHT hundred pylons have been driven into the ground as work on the new $250 million Townsville stadium ramp up.

On a typical day during early works, up to 35 workers may be on site near the banks of Ross Creek.

“This number will increase when the main stadium build commences,” a spokesman for the Department of Infrastructure, Local Government and Planning said, which is the authority on the project.

The bulk of construction is focused on the installation of pile cap foundations, placement of reinforced steel, formwork and concrete pouring activities.

“Construction of the North Queensland Stadium is in the early works phase,” the Government spokesman said. “Current activities are focused on preparing the site for the commencement of the main stadium build early this year.

“These early works activities have included site survey, environmental control establishment and maintenance, demolition of existing structures, civil earthworks, piling and foundations and workforce site amenities establishment.”

The North Queensland Stadium is due to be completed before the start of the 2020 NRL season and the Stage 1 civil works are 80 per cent complete.

It’s a hive of activity on site with teams of workers finishing the building platforms for the eastern promenade, and northern and southern plaza areas. Two piling rigs together are driving up to 30 pylons a day to a maximum depth of 22m.

Four double B trailers, carrying about 35 tonnes at a time, have been delivering the 90,000cu m of fill required to establish the building platforms. Two 30-tonne excavators and a 20-tonne excavator are involved with Stage 1 pile de-heading and substructure foundation excavations and two 14cu m rigid trucks are working on substructure works. The North Queensland Stadium project is expected to support up to 750 jobs during design and construction.

Watpac is the managing contractor and has had a Townsville office for 20 years.

The business is implementing a plan that targets 80 per cent of hours spent building the stadium to be by locals and at least 80 per cent of project value to be spent on local subcontractors and suppliers.
 
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https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/s...d/news-story/0274bdfe4cab90073e69c747f2fafb31

NSW Government should be upgrading the SCG, writes shitfaced journo

Phil Rothfield, The Daily Telegraph
an hour ago

THE debate continues over the NSW Government’s $2.3 billion spend on Sydney stadiums.

Most agree ANZ should be a 75,000-seat world-class rectangular venue for grand finals, Origin, Ed Sheeran and Adele concerts, the Socceroos, Man U, Liverpool and major events that would otherwise go interstate.

Moore Park needs an upgrade, too.

But the government has chosen the wrong venue.

It should be the SCG instead of Allianz. The old SCG might be the most nostalgic sporting arena in the country but is now the No. 4 AFL/cricket venue behind Perth, Adelaide and the MCG as far as fan facilities go.

It caters for the Sydney Swans, cricket and far bigger crowds than next door at Allianz.

Simple research on the major tenants and their crowds at Allianz shows the Roosters have averaged just 13,474 over the past three years, the Waratahs 18,611 and Sydney FC 15,817.

So why has Premier Gladys Berejiklian agreed to a 45,000-seat venue at a cost of $650 million? That’s $650 million for 31,526 empty seats on average when the Roosters play. Or 26,389 empty seats for the Waratahs and 29,183 for Sydney FC.

And remember, no other NRL club wants to play there. This is a gigantic waste of taxpayers’ money.

A boutique 30,000-seater similar to AAMI Park in Melbourne would have been sufficient and hundreds of millions cheaper. Surely bringing the SCG up to the magnificent standards of Perth, Adelaide and Melbourne would be a far better plan for ALL sports fans.

Sydney would then have the best rectangular venue in Australia and a cricket/AFL ground to match any other in the country. And isn’t that what we all want?

He isn’t wrong about the SFS only needing a 30,000 seat venue.

But that wouldn’t save enough money to do the SCG properly. SCG master plan wants 2 more stands built, one to replace the Messnger & O’reilly and another to replace the Churchill/Brewongle stands. That’d need $400-500m minimum going off the $200m cost of upgrading the Noble/Bradman stand.
 

Hello, I'm The Doctor

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Peter FitzSimons: Stadium rebuilds still have a stink around them and will until I see a business case

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http://www.smh.com.au/sport/the-fitz-files/peter-fitzsimons-stadium-rebuilds-still-have-a-stink-around-them-and-will-until-i-see-a-business-case-20180207-h0vk6t.html

I didnt pick it at the time, but I have to say taht the Libs were clever to announce the stadiums when they did before Xmas...

All the fire has gone out of the protest and you can see from this article that it will be hard to get back. I think the rebuilds will be pretty safe.
 

Stormwarrior82

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Interesting;

https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2018/02/07/brisbane-pushing-boutique-stadium

A federal commitment to the women’s World Cup would help in a number of ways. Reinforce to the Sydney fans that world class rectangle stadiums aren’t so bad and that any new brisbane team needs to get on to this new brisbane stadium proposal. Kinda hope that the decision isn’t made until the stadiums get started and then they lose it.
 
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The stadiums are happening. Rugby World Cup & women’s fifa World Cup bids have ensured it.

Ccsncelling them now would sabotage those bids.

Obviously the threat of the NRL taking action would’ve loomed large too.
 
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Interesting;

https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2018/02/07/brisbane-pushing-boutique-stadium

A federal commitment to the women’s World Cup would help in a number of ways. Reinforce to the Sydney fans that world class rectangle stadiums aren’t so bad and that any new brisbane team needs to get on to this new brisbane stadium proposal. Kinda hope that the decision isn’t made until the stadiums get started and then they lose it.

To me any second Brisbane NRL team should be playing out of Suncorp. Unless I suppose a botique stadium of 30k was built. Seems more likely it would be smaller though.
 

Stormwarrior82

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To me any second Brisbane NRL team should be playing out of Suncorp. Unless I suppose a botique stadium of 30k was built. Seems more likely it would be smaller though.

I agree. I kinda hope that the state/local gov say no but settles and agrees to help build a smaller boutique stadium out in western Brisbane/Ipswich (aka western Brisbane brothers jets)

Other option would be to turn current qcup club grounds into small stadiums.
Bulldoz ballymore because it’s old and in a sh!t spot and turn into units etc. use that money to finance stadium upgrades across the city.
 

Canard

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Interesting;

https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/article/2018/02/07/brisbane-pushing-boutique-stadium

A federal commitment to the women’s World Cup would help in a number of ways. Reinforce to the Sydney fans that world class rectangle stadiums aren’t so bad and that any new brisbane team needs to get on to this new brisbane stadium proposal. Kinda hope that the decision isn’t made until the stadiums get started and then they lose it.

Whilst it will help our games stadium strategy, surely were not getting involved in anything to do with FIFA again are we?

I'd rather use the millions on stadiums then lining the pockets of some foreign powerbroker.
 
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Whilst it will help our games stadium strategy, surely were not getting involved in anything to do with FIFA again are we?

I'd rather use the millions on stadiums then lining the pockets of some foreign powerbroker.

We shouldn’t be bidding for a FIFA tournament again, but we are. The govt are all in.
 

beave

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I agree. I kinda hope that the state/local gov say no but settles and agrees to help build a smaller boutique stadium out in western Brisbane/Ipswich (aka western Brisbane brothers jets)

Other option would be to turn current qcup club grounds into small stadiums.
Bulldoz ballymore because it’s old and in a sh!t spot and turn into units etc. use that money to finance stadium upgrades across the city.

Springfield is my choice. That area has boomed over the last 10 years and the Ripley Valley is the next big growth area. The train line goes to Springfield as well. Play the big games at Suncorp.

You just have to market it correctly with the naming/logo

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jim_57

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To me any second Brisbane NRL team should be playing out of Suncorp. Unless I suppose a botique stadium of 30k was built. Seems more likely it would be smaller though.

If there is weight to this, the NRL should at the very least be throwing some support behind the scenes hinting that a South West Brisbane NRL team could offer more use to the stadium. Also look at offering test matches, all stars etc to sweeten the deal.

Going to be a hard sell without much content so you'd imagine Roar, Reds and potential new NRL and A-League teams would have to play some games there to make it worthwhile.

Best case scenario:
  1. 25k stadium built in SW Brisbane in 5-10 years.
  2. Suncorp is developed in to a 60k stadium with intimate mode enabled in 10-15 years.
That ties up Brisbane and QLD for stadiums, hopefully with Sydney sorted as well by then. What's left? Canberra definitely, Auckland? Other than little touch ups the NRL should be set.
 
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