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[Sime_11]

Westfund Injury Update: Round 12

Panthers physio Pete Green has all the latest injury news regarding Spencer Leniu, Izack Tago, Taylan May and the rest of the rehab crew.

www.penrithpanthers.com.au

Tiny to be running in a months time? - would he be any chance for the end of the season or he's definetely no chance for 2023?

 

[MugaB]

Westfund Injury Update: Round 12

Panthers physio Pete Green has all the latest injury news regarding Spencer Leniu, Izack Tago, Taylan May and the rest of the rehab crew.

www.penrithpanthers.com.au

Tiny to be running in a months time? - would he be any chance for the end of the season or he's definetely no chance for 2023?

Great news ... any on Tago, feel like he got bored not playing without tiny, that he purposely injured himself, then kicked spenser in the balls for fun

 

[Goonji]

It's behind a paywall. Can someone print it out......

Thanks.

Domestic violence allegations are not a ‘soap opera’, Mr Kent

Jordan Baker​

Chief Reporter

Back in 2010, rugby league commentator Paul Kent penned a strident column about an actor who attacked his girlfriend, and was then rushed to rehab. “Beating up a woman is not the action of an addict,” he wrote. “It is a sign of poor character. The action of a weak man. A dog.”

Kent was right to condemn domestic violence in strong terms, underlining the seriousness of a crime that was once dismissed as a behind-closed-doors, “personal” issue but is now, finally, treated with the gravity it deserves (in that column, Kent’s message was undermined by his solution, which was to say the actor needed a “smack in the mouth”).

But that’s typical of the man widely known as “Kenty”; a journalist-turned-commentator who has built a career on judging players’ performances and failings in sport and life, and drawing emphatic conclusions, such as “we live in a world of snowflakes”, or “rewarding losers is a weakness on society”.

Until last weekend, when he was stood down to deal with what was described on air as a “personal matter”, Kent could be seen delivering his uncompromising opinions twice a week in The Daily Telegraph, and three times a week on one of Fox Sport’s flagship shows, NRL 360, on which he acted at times as a contrarian, at times as a pantomime villain and at times as a moral arbiter.

Yet on Wednesday, when Kent himself faced court on charges of assaulting and choking his 33-year-old ex-girlfriend (they’d broken up the night before), his position on the seriousness of domestic violence was less strident.

Kent said he would fight the charges. Outside the court, he said he was embarrassed, looked forward to the full story coming out and had the support of his employers. “I don’t think [my career] is over.”

But when asked whether he stood by his previous anti-domestic violence views – an invitation to reiterate his strong stance on the issue itself, even while stating his innocence in this particular case – Kent took a different approach.

“It’s the rugby league soap opera, that’s the way it rolls,” he said. “So it’s my day being the storyline right now. That’s fine, people are entitled to their opinions. We’ll get to the end of it. It’ll be OK.”

Rugby league does have its fair share of theatre. “Soap opera,” an AFL chief once informed the Herald’s veteran sports writer Roy Masters, “is about the only thing rugby league does better than us.” But soap opera is melodrama; it’s coach feuds and pay fights and salary cap scandals and rainbow jersey debacles.

Domestic violence allegations fall into an entirely different category. Domestic violence is a pervasive scourge in the community; more than 33,000 incidents were recorded across the state last year, and that number has grown. On average, 60 per cent of police time in each command is devoted to helping victims and dealing with offenders.

The laundry list of players who’d been on the receiving end of Kent’s sharp tongue have lined up against him. One said a journalist who “never shone away” from questioning players’ morals if they messed up “needs to be held account for his, also”.

Another, commenting on The Daily Telegraph’s failure to cover the story when it broke, said, “If that was a player there would be 15 stories with very little facts [and] cameras at their house.”

Few, however, gave thought to the welfare of the woman at the centre of the case. For her, this is no rugby league “soap opera”. The court process is a deeply traumatic experience, in which her decisions will be questioned, her relationship raked over and her word interrogated. For the many months until the case is heard, and perhaps for many more afterwards, her life will be clouded in anxiety and stress.

One wonders what Kent would have said about all this if he wasn’t the one accused of the crime.

 

[Aliceinwonderland]

Thanks so much for sharing this. I appreciate it.

 

[Goonji]

Thanks so much for sharing this. I appreciate it.

You're welcome.

 

[Kilkenny]

Westfund Injury Update: Round 12

Panthers physio Pete Green has all the latest injury news regarding Spencer Leniu, Izack Tago, Taylan May and the rest of the rehab crew.

www.penrithpanthers.com.au

Tiny to be running in a months time? - would he be any chance for the end of the season or he's definetely no chance for 2023?

He’ll be back late in the regular season.

 

[John Hamblin]

He’ll be back late in the regular season.

A fit and fresh Tiny will be a big boost for us late in the season

 

[Kilkenny]

A fit and fresh Tiny will be a big boost for us late in the season

Definitely. ACL injuries are massive, some overcome them, but many don’t and are never quite the same. We will find out in time.

 

[Fangs]

That would be a big call to shaft Turuva late in the season. He is doing alright and would rather back him through to the finals.

 

[Aliceinwonderland]

That would be a big call to shaft Turuva late in the season. He is doing alright and would rather back him through to the finals.

I would be shocked if Tiny was back for the finals.

 

[BxTom]

Parra are done for the next few years . Moses extends until end of 2026 with an option of two more years. I think they also extended their coach earlier on as well. No wonder they never win anything - they never learn! https://www.nrl.com/news/2023/01/01...ings-news-details-contracts-signings-updates/

 

[Kilkenny]

I would be shocked if Tiny was back for the finals.

He’ll be back 100%. Rehab around ACL injury has improved significantly whether he finds his way into the NRL team is another issue altogether. A lot can happen between now and the back end of this season.

 

[Chins get the wins]

Turuva is a better player than May but probably not on the wing in our side. We don't give Turuva a chance to do anything with his talent really

 

[John Hamblin]

Turuva is a better player than May but probably not on the wing in our side. We don't give Turuva a chance to do anything with his talent really

Sorry buddy Tiny is a beast scores a tun of tries that very few wingers can score.

 

[mxlegend99]

I don't see any realistic way for Taylan May to play again this year. If by some miracle he's fit. It's too big of a gamble to drop anyone who has played the majority of the season for him anyway.

Tyrone was never the same after his ACL. Neither was Mansour or Whare. Taylan is young enough to bounce back so I do think we will eventually see him at his best. But I just wouldn't expect it to happen so soon (as in immediately upon being fit to play).

Give him some NSW Cup games if he's 100%. Let him get a few games in before another offseason. Get confidence in his leg too.

 

[betcats]

Definitely would not be rushing or risking taylan. Let him reheb and build up strength and come back strong next year. I think with these serious injuries there are two big factors that count how well a player comes back, first and foremost is the effort they put into rehabing it, i dont just mean how long they are out on restricted training etc but the actual rehab movements they are doing with the physio, doing them properly and consistently with the right progressions is very important. Age is also a big factor imo. Plenty of young guys have busted their knee more then once and gone on to have great careers.

 

[MugaB]

I don't see any realistic way for Taylan May to play again this year. If by some miracle he's fit. It's too big of a gamble to drop anyone who has played the majority of the season for him anyway.

Tyrone was never the same after his ACL. Neither was Mansour or Whare. Taylan is young enough to bounce back so I do think we will eventually see him at his best. But I just wouldn't expect it to happen so soon (as in immediately upon being fit to play).

Give him some NSW Cup games if he's 100%. Let him get a few games in before another offseason. Get confidence in his leg too.

Drop Turuva, problem solved...

...Cheers, Thanks, ill be in the lunchroom if there's any more questions

 

[jane the pain]

Drop Turuva, problem solved...

...Cheers, Thanks, ill be in the lunchroom if there's any more questions

Turuva deserves his spot.

 

[MugaB]

Turuva deserves his spot.

Not in front of taylan may... he had it first, and was one of our top try scorers...you remember when we scored freakishly good and OFTEN tries... that was taylan... YES!!!... now all we seem to do is bomb tries and make it harder for ourselves

 

[Fangs]

If they were both fit today you'd pick May.

Tylan is more dangerous with the ball in hand and looks a better finisher as well.

Dylan Edwards and Brian To'o are both 1st and 2nd for run metres in 2023. Turuva does however sit 7th for run metres...so he is doing a good job keeping up with the best.