Greg Bird charged and released by Sharks

[sting]

I disagree. He is trying to confuse the issue by pretending that a slap is nothing so he can pretend Watmough is a good guy. I dont' know if Watmough is guilty of not. It is trying to trivialise a slap.

ffs this is getting frustrating to read. he never said a slap is nothing and he isn't trying to trivialize it. in fact i believe he said slapping is unacceptable. all he is saying that a punch is worse than a slap. which in the eyes of the law would be right.

slap = very bad
punch = worse

what is hard to understand about that?

 

[TITAN1]

You lot need a good slap on the wrist.

 

[bazza]

My gf, fled her marriage because her husband slapped her around.

I'm 6ft4 and 105kg. My gf is 5ft2 and about 55kg. If I slapped her I could kill her.

I am gay and I play rugby league. What is your point.

http://forums.leagueunlimited.com/showpost.php?p=4420576&postcount=22

 

[sting]

http://forums.leagueunlimited.com/showpost.php?p=4420576&postcount=22

hahaha busted

unless STC is a woman :sarcasm:

 

[The Gambler]

I wonder if he was gentlemen enough to replace the glass.

 

[SaveTheChildren]

http://forums.leagueunlimited.com/showpost.php?p=4420576&postcount=22

Winding up Souths fans for entertainment is fine (pretending to be a gay souths fan). Domestic violence is a serious issue. Shame some of you didn't catch Australian Story tonight.

 

[SaveTheChildren]

ffs this is getting frustrating to read. he never said a slap is nothing and he isn't trying to trivialize it. in fact i believe he said slapping is unacceptable. all he is saying that a punch is worse than a slap. which in the eyes of the law would be right.

slap = very bad
punch = worse

what is hard to understand about that?

A slap is not necessarily lesser than a punch. You can kill a man with an open hand no problem.

The law would frown upon a slap to the temple causing death more so than a punch to the stomach causing winding!

Slapping is the classic excuse for domestic violence. "I'd never punch a woman I only gave her a slap". That is the excuse to go ahead. It is the abuse of the use of "slap" that allows men to do enormous damage with their erroneously innocuous slap.

 

[sting]

yeh fair point i see where your coming from with your last point regarding slapping being an excuse.

for the record i think its disgusting

but i've just never heard of anyone being slapped to death, punching seems to do far more damage. ie you wouldn't see two blokes slapping on in the pub or on the footy field. i'd imagine one would need to have some kind of training or know where to hit in order to kill someone with a slap

 

[SaveTheChildren]

yeh fair point i see where your coming from with your last point regarding slapping being an excuse.

for the record i think its disgusting

but i've just never heard of anyone being slapped to death, punching seems to do far more damage. ie you wouldn't see two blokes slapping on in the pub or on the footy field. i'd imagine one would need to have some kind of training or know where to hit in order to kill someone with a slap

My girlfriend was married for 13 years. There was an initial violence over the first year or so over the marriage, then a dormant period for about 8 years. After this the violence reached new levels. I have heard many descriptions of her attacks, and I assure you in this situation, the slap was the justification, and she lived for several years in fear of her life, before she had the courage to leave.

Blokes punch blokes. Blokes slap woman. The results are the same.

 

[SaveTheChildren]

yeh fair point i see where your coming from with your last point regarding slapping being an excuse.

for the record i think its disgusting

but i've just never heard of anyone being slapped to death, punching seems to do far more damage. ie you wouldn't see two blokes slapping on in the pub or on the footy field. i'd imagine one would need to have some kind of training or know where to hit in order to kill someone with a slap

A slap across the side of the head - right on the temple.

Look at it this way. The slap is the trigger and the justification. The perpertrator can deliver 8 slaps and but one punch, and can say to himself I only really slapped her. The slap is just a mask.

 

[ozbash]

I could slap you and put you into a coma.

You should stop slapping your wife around, it isn't nice! Stop trying to justify your behaviour on here.

Are you Anthony Watmough?

funny you should mention that STC, same thought went through my mind..

 

[MSIH]

I'm a wife beater because you two gronks can't get a grasp of the English language?

Please don't have children.

I particularly like how you keep adding new dimensions to my original One slap statement. You've changed it to constant slapping to the temple over an 8 year period.

Good to see Ozbash getting back involved, took him 12 hours to read 7 posts and he still has nfi what's going on.

 

[sting]

On a totally different note, these google ads things on top of each thread are getting strange.....

 

[ozbash]

Good to see Ozbash getting back involved, took him 12 hours to read 7 posts and he still has nfi what's going on.

haha, good stuff champ, never knew you had the clues to count to 7, let alone 12.

somebody help you ?

 

[El Diablo]

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,24276868-5001021,00.html

Bird case continues with or without girlfriend's help
Article from: The Daily Telegraph

By Kara Lawrence and Paul Kent

September 02, 2008 12:00am

POLICE have vowed to continue their prosecution of NRL star Greg Bird for allegedly glassing his girlfriend Katie Milligan, despite her public declaration she will stand by him.
Detectives who have charged Bird with maliciously inflicting grievous bodily harm say they intend to proceed with the case, even if it relied on other evidence.

This included statements by Bird's neighbours about events of the morning of Sunday, August 24, when he allegedly led his girlfriend, bleeding from glass wounds to her left eye, from his Cronulla apartment and drove her to hospital.

Detective Inspector Greg Bamford told The Daily Telegraph yesterday that police intended to pursue the prosecution of Bird "at this stage", despite Ms Milligan not giving a formal statement.

Ms Milligan, 24, told The Daily Telegraph in an exclusive interview that she was still "very much in love" with Bird and that they would reunite when "this all blows over". Still sporting a large cut near her eye, she said she would be supporting him in his not guilty plea.

When asked if she would give a statement to police about events, she replied: "That is yet to be determined".

Bird, 24, has been suspended indefinitely from the Sharks and will not return before the season is over.

Insp Bamford said Ms Milligan was well aware that police wanted a formal statement from her, but they were no longer pursuing it after more than a week of doing so. "Ms Milligan knows where we are, our doors are open and we'd like her to come and talk to us," he said.

More than 85 per cent of 2000 readers who voted in a Daily Telegraph website poll yesterday said they would not stand by Bird if they were in Milligan's shoes.

However, NSW Domestic Violence Coalition convenor Betty Green said it was wrong to blame the alleged victim.

 

[God-King Dean]

However, NSW Domestic Violence Coalition convenor Betty Green said it was wrong to blame the alleged victim.

Does she mean wrong to blame her for getting glassed, or wrong to blame her for standing by her man ?

If it's the latter... is that really the kind of message for a convener of domestic violence to send to beaten girlfriends/wives ?

 

[*Sandy*]

However, NSW Domestic Violence Coalition convenor Betty Green said it was wrong to blame the alleged victim.

Does she mean wrong to blame her for getting glassed, or wrong to blame her for standing by her man ?

If it's the latter... is that really the kind of message for a convener of domestic violence to send to beaten girlfriends/wives ?

I interpret it being the latter.

And I interpret that as protection of the alleged victim by the covener of domestic voilence.

It's a difficult situation for an alleged victim and it is very hard to determine her mental state at this time.

 

[God-King Dean]

Hmm. While I can understand that, I believe more personal responsibility should be taken by victims of abuse. That statement seems just gives me the impression that women have no power in this.

That's just me anyway...

 

[*Sandy*]

Hmm. While I can understand that, I believe more personal responsibility should be taken by victims of abuse. That statement seems just gives me the impression that women have no power in this.

That's just me anyway...

But that's the way we have to help a victim, give her the impression she has power outside the abuser.

Don't blame her, don't pity her, don't feel sorry for her.
Just feel her heartache...

 

[Pierced Soul]

Hmm. While I can understand that, I believe more personal responsibility should be taken by victims of abuse. That statement seems just gives me the impression that women have no power in this.

That's just me anyway...

unfortunaetly a lot of victims feel they ahve no power either. DV is essentially a major power imbalance where the perpetrator abuses and controls the victim.

it's not unsuual for the vicitm to blame themselves, nor for the vicitm to keep going back believeing it will get 'better'.