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Greg Bird charged with violent attack

If charges are dropped against Bird, should he return immediately?

  • Yes

    Votes: 85 50.9%
  • No

    Votes: 77 46.1%
  • I don't know/maybe/depends, ie. I'm too weak to have an opinion

    Votes: 5 3.0%

  • Total voters
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Dave Q

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Bird should read this:



Crime

There is a high incidence of petty crime, especially bag snatching and pickpocketing, throughout France particularly on the streets of larger cities such as Paris, Marseilles and Nice. Airports, public transport, tourist areas, hotel lobbies, restaurants and cafes, and beaches are prime targets for thieves who frequently work in gangs using a variety of methods to distract potential victims. Increasingly, such crime is being accompanied by acts or threats of violence. There are frequent reports of crime, including robbery and muggings, on the train system servicing Roissy-Charles-de-Gaulle and Orly Airports. Travellers are advised to consider other means of transport from the airports to Paris, such as bus or taxi, particularly late at night and early in the morning.
There is a growing incidence of violent attacks against tourists by groups of young people, usually occurring late at night around major tourist attractions such as the Champs-Elysees, the Les Halles district, the Latin Quarter in central Paris and the environs of the Gare du Nord train station, or in the vicinity of main train stations in the provinces.
There have been increasing reports of crimes targeting vehicles, such as purse snatching from cars stopped in traffic, particularly in the south of France between the cities of Perpignan (near the Spanish border) and Menton (near the Italian border). You should be particularly vigilant at isolated automated service stations and avoid sleeping in rest areas beside autoroutes (motorways) and major roads, or in makeshift or unauthorised camp grounds on the outskirts of cities.
Credit card and ATM fraud involving 'skimming' machines which can store card data is rising, particularly at automated service stations and in tourist areas.
You should be wary of strangers that invite you for a complimentary drink or show at a private club. Some foreigners who have accepted such offers have had large sums debited from their credit cards before they have been permitted to leave the venue.

courstesy: smarttraveller.gov.au

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Bird gets sent off for kneeing South's Shane Martene in 2004.

pic; news ltd.

And the little issue of Birdy's visa to play in the Republic:-

Visa refusal

The main grounds for a visa refusal are : security, character, risk of illegal migration, insufficient financial resources, category of visa inconsistent with purposes and/or circumstances of the applicant. However, by law, reasons for denying a visa may not be disclosed. The exceptions to this rule concern foreign nationals who have statutory residency rights such as dependents of French nationals or European Union citizens living in France.
A refusal of a visa for France may be reviewed by a statutory review board :
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Commission de recours contre les décisions de refus de visa d’entrée en France,
BP 83609 - 44036 Nantes Cedex 1 (France).
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The Consulate-General of France does not provide advice on appeals.

Perhaps Birdy can join the Foriegn Legion, they dont ask questions do they?
 
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coolumsharkie

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Bird should read this:



Crime

There is a high incidence of petty crime, especially bag snatching and pickpocketing, throughout France particularly on the streets of larger cities such as Paris, Marseilles and Nice. Airports, public transport, tourist areas, hotel lobbies, restaurants and cafes, and beaches are prime targets for thieves who frequently work in gangs using a variety of methods to distract potential victims. Increasingly, such crime is being accompanied by acts or threats of violence. There are frequent reports of crime, including robbery and muggings, on the train system servicing Roissy-Charles-de-Gaulle and Orly Airports. Travellers are advised to consider other means of transport from the airports to Paris, such as bus or taxi, particularly late at night and early in the morning.
There is a growing incidence of violent attacks against tourists by groups of young people, usually occurring late at night around major tourist attractions such as the Champs-Elysees, the Les Halles district, the Latin Quarter in central Paris and the environs of the Gare du Nord train station, or in the vicinity of main train stations in the provinces.
There have been increasing reports of crimes targeting vehicles, such as purse snatching from cars stopped in traffic, particularly in the south of France between the cities of Perpignan (near the Spanish border) and Menton (near the Italian border). You should be particularly vigilant at isolated automated service stations and avoid sleeping in rest areas beside autoroutes (motorways) and major roads, or in makeshift or unauthorised camp grounds on the outskirts of cities.
Credit card and ATM fraud involving 'skimming' machines which can store card data is rising, particularly at automated service stations and in tourist areas.
You should be wary of strangers that invite you for a complimentary drink or show at a private club. Some foreigners who have accepted such offers have had large sums debited from their credit cards before they have been permitted to leave the venue.

courstesy: smarttraveller.gov.au

0,,6218072,00.jpg

Bird gets sent off for kneeing South's Shane Martene in 2004.

pic; news ltd.

And the little issue of Birdy's visa to play in the Republic:-

Visa refusal

The main grounds for a visa refusal are : security, character, risk of illegal migration, insufficient financial resources, category of visa inconsistent with purposes and/or circumstances of the applicant. However, by law, reasons for denying a visa may not be disclosed. The exceptions to this rule concern foreign nationals who have statutory residency rights such as dependents of French nationals or European Union citizens living in France.
A refusal of a visa for France may be reviewed by a statutory review board :
puce-68c92.gif
Commission de recours contre les décisions de refus de visa d’entrée en France,
BP 83609 - 44036 Nantes Cedex 1 (France).
puce-68c92.gif
The Consulate-General of France does not provide advice on appeals.

Perhaps Birdy can join the Foriegn Legion, they dont ask questions do they?


#-o

Hope you didn't burn the chips.
 
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New evidence clears Greg Bird in Fusions assault case - lawyer


AAP
March 13, 2009 11:18am

FRESH evidence from security guards at a Sydney nightclub may mean assault charges against former NRL star Greg Bird are dropped, a court has heard.

Bird faces five charges of common assault after allegedly attacking a woman at Fusions nightclub in Cronulla on June 19 last year.
The one-time NSW and Australian representative five-eighth was due to face the first day of a hearing at Sutherland Local Court today, but the matter has now been adjourned.

Bird's lawyer Patrick Conaghan said statements from three security guards and the security video, which he received as late as this morning, proved his client's innocence.

"Three security officers are able not only to give evidence, but to give evidence to the effect that he was the victim in this matter," Mr Conaghan told the court.

"... (The complainant and her sister's) behaviour (in the video) is totally inconsistent with their statements.
"It's just entirely unfair for Mr Bird - the documents before me point to him being innocent."

Prosecutors said the security officers had only begun to co-operate with police in the past week. They supported Mr Conaghan's application to adjourn the matter.

The magistrate, Jayeanne Carney, ordered the brief of evidence be served in four weeks' time, with the next court date yet to be decided.




Bird, who plays for French team Catalans, flew into Sydney yesterday for the court appearance.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25180729-29277,00.html
 

Surely

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"... (The complainant and her sister's) behaviour (in the video) is totally inconsistent with their statements.
"It's just entirely unfair for Mr Bird - the documents before me point to him being innocent."

Obviously why there were no charges laid at the time

Prosecutors said the security officers had only begun to co-operate with police in the past week. They supported Mr Conaghan's application to adjourn the matter.

Well why is that, he was never charged at the time and when they looked like having egg on their face over the alleged milligan attack they dragged this one out.

It smacks of not wanting to look like idiots, ironically now they look like bigger idiots.
 

gunnamatta bay

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*shrug* you're probably right though gunna.....
Maybe a tad harsh Gregos but when he was charged with the Milligan matter and went to court they added the Fusions assault, though if I recall correctly, it was six months old. Why had they sat on it for so long was speculated upon here on this thread at the time. No one could offer a plausible reason other than no one had bothered to do anything about the woman's complaint though Bird was not hard to find. He hadn't gone missing overseas or interstate or anything!

Now we are told startling new evidence has emerged there is cctv footage that proves he is innocent. Further to that bouncers now 'want to co-operate' and provide statements supporting Bird's innocence.

I find this all very curious. The police have enormous powers which enable them to put pressure on licensed clubs to co-operate. To withhold vital evidence would just be about enough to close the joint down.

So mate forgive me if I find this 2nd 'assault' charge a bit dodgy at best.
 

Quigs

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OT.. Gunna, the postman knocked twice. The parcel has arrived, the eagle has landed.

Thanks mate.

Cheers
Declared Idiot #88
Quigs
 

blacktip-reefy

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First case about to be thrown out. Now for the second one .

You look up wikipedia the phrase "loading up" & you have the Greg Bird File.

I wonder if he will end up being charged for anything more than "not reporting a broken glass"?
 

gunnamatta bay

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Came across this story yesterday. This story keeps getting weirder:

(an excerpt)

The alleged assault occurred between 12.20am and 12.43am at Fusion nightclub on January 19 last year, but Bird was not charged by police until August 20.
Prosecutor Karryn Vanzino told the court "security were not initially co-operative with police - co-operation has only been in the last week . . . further investigation was necessary".
Mr Conaghan argued the hearing could not go ahead until he had more time to look over fresh police statements.
He also won a claim for the prosecution to pay for Bird's court costs because of the delay in proceedings. Magistrate Jayeanne Carney ordered the prosecution to pay $2000 in costs


http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/sport/nrl/story/0,26799,25183757-5006066,00.html

14 months after the alleged incident they are claiming more inquiries need to be done allegedly because the club was not co-operating. As previously stated I reckon this is bullsh*t.
This episode cost the taxpayer 2 grand in costs. Probably to compensate Bird for his airfare back from France. What a joke.
 

samshark

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Yep you're right Gunna.... the bloke running that investigation should be hammered.

Embarrassing.

What if it is a female.

You are rught Gunna. It is bullsh*t. I know for a fact that the reason he was charged with the Fusion matter was to show a previous history of violence/conflict with women. That is why he wasnt charged for 7 months but then suddenly is when he is in the dock for another female involved incident.

Its embarrassing. I hope he gets costs awarded for this one.
 

gunnamatta bay

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What if it is a female.

You are rught Gunna. It is bullsh*t. I know for a fact that the reason he was charged with the Fusion matter was to show a previous history of violence/conflict with women. That is why he wasnt charged for 7 months but then suddenly is when he is in the dock for another female involved incident.

Its embarrassing. I hope he gets costs awarded for this one.
so sam you are saying they had no intention of following up the woman's assault allegation until the Milligan episode cropped up? What a can of worms!
 

gunnamatta bay

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no its not a can of worms. Government departments can do whatever they want & get away with it.
At best (it could get more intriguing who knows with this lot) there seems to be a question mark hovering over the Fushions episode concerning ethical behaviour although in the grand scheme of things it's pretty minor so any complaint would be handled locally I'd imagine so you are probably right Reefy.

Doesn't stop a good old fashioned tongue lashing from the presiding Magistrate though which will no doubt receive enthusiastic publicity via the Sydney media.
 
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