Have the Tigers convinced Moltzen to stay? Release sought from his Saints contract

[MacDougall]

Lol@Dragons

I wish there was a world in which the Tigers renegged on the deal just to play Moltzen at centre for State Cup. Dragons pfft. Piss ants.

 

[saint_marto88]

Someone's still hurting

 

[Vic Mackey]

Well done on making the finals for the 3rd time in 12 years.

well done in winning 2 of your last 8 games or whatever it was

2010 counts as much as 2005, 1979, 1935 and 1908 premierships now mate

 

[Fordy20]

Don't understand why Saints fans are so butthurt. If this rumour has legs, you guys have dodged a massive bullet, whilst the Tigers are saddled with a prima donna at halfback that the coach, the administration and half the fans didn't even want at the club, going as far as holding onto a known wife beater just to keep him out of the halves.

 

[Vic Mackey]

Agree fordy, however sheens thinks he is a fullback. I'm confident we'll see 1. Moltzen 7. Miller next year. Saints may end up with Mitch brown out of it, who while not as flashy, is a much better fullback them moltzen.

 

[Fordy20]

We really haven't seen what Mitch Brown can do if given a decent crack at fullback. Standing in stark contrast with this is three years of Moltzen at fullback and the best I've heard is that he's finally starting to find his feet. If Moltzen is the Tigers fullback next year, that will be his fourth year at fullback. FFS, John Morris only played three years in the halves...

 

[Deacon]

Agree fordy, however sheens thinks he is a fullback. I'm confident we'll see 1. Moltzen 7. Miller next year. Saints may end up with Mitch brown out of it, who while not as flashy, is a much better fullback them moltzen.

:lol::lol::lol:

It'll be Moltzen or no one, Mitch Brown doesn't offer the same attributes as Tim.

 

[M2D2]

Im shocked that sheens thinks that utai is a better center than brown.

 

[Mong]

Humphries blew up about it as they announced it on the day of the Tigers/Eels game, and he said he had no knowledge of the news, however I think it was Liam Fulton (maybe a few other players too), said they knew Tim was leaving for St George a few days before the announcement was made.

I meant did they say anything about him still being contracted tothem and that he couldn't sign for anyone else anyway?

All of a sudden that seems to be an issue for them. Lets hope this doesn't end up in the courts.

 

[Evenflow]

Really looking forward to seeing how this one plays out


http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...llawarra-dragons/story-e6frexnr-1226159682162

SYDNEY powerhouses Wests Tigers and St George Illawarra are at war over Tim Moltzen because the star utility has signed official NRL contracts to play for both clubs next season.

The Tigers say Moltzen wasn't granted a mid-season release and should not have signed with the Dragons.The NRL is preparing to step in to resolve the dispute through a contract appeals committee. Moltzen still had a Tigers contract for next year when he signed a rich three-year deal with Saints in July.

At the time, it appeared he was unwanted by Tim Sheens, whose Tigers were facing enormous salary cap pressure. But it seems Moltzen was never officially released and his Tigers contract for next year has been registered with the NRL. St George Illawarra also have a contract signed by Moltzen and want him at pre-season training next month.

The fullback and centre was signed by Saints to cover for departing stars Darius Boyd and Mark Gasnier.It is understood Moltzen's manager, Martin Tauber, met with Wests Tigers recruitment manager Warren McDonnell yesterday. Tigers sources deny money suddenly became available for Moltzen due to the probable sacking of halfback Robert Lui, who yesterday was linked with Souths and North Queensland.The Tigers were last night trying to find out why Tauber took his client to the Dragons.

A friend of Moltzen said: "He doesn't want to go to the Dragons. He never did." Superstar Benji Marshall - who lives with Moltzen in Sydney's northwest - was known to be filthy that his mate was being squeezed out of the Tigers. One source close to the Tigers said: "The NRL will have to get everyone in a room and sort this out."

Wests Tigers chief executive Steve Humphreys was unavailable for comment yesterday but Dragons CEO Peter Doust issued this statement on the club's website last night: "Tim Moltzen and his manager have signed a three-year deal with the Dragons. We have not had any conversations or received any other information from Tim or his manager that would suggest he would not be at the Dragons in 2012."

It is believed Saints won't meekly allow Moltzen to stay with the Tigers. Tauber did not return calls last night but told AAP early yesterday: "I only got back from New York yesterday afternoon and I have no idea what it is all about."I've got a meeting with the Tigers today and that's when I will know exactly what is going on. He has definitely signed with the Dragons, but now there is talk of a release, so I am now off to find out more."

NRL officials are not commenting but will be hoping the two clubs can settle the drama. St George Illawarra caused a stir when they issued a media statement announcing Moltzen's signing just hours before the Tigers' vital round-18 match against Parramatta on July 8.

At the time, Humphreys accused Saints of being arrogant and disrespectful, claiming the Dragons announced Moltzen's signing without the Tigers' knowledge. Doust claimed he was bemused by Humphreys' comments and signed Moltzen in "good faith". If Lui is axed, Moltzen could play halfback for the Tigers next season. Losing Moltzen would be a devastating blow for Saints, who will be without Boyd, Gasnier and coach Wayne Bennett.

The Dragons statement on July 8 read: "The St George Illawarra Dragons on Friday announced that Tim Moltzen has agreed to a three-year contract that will see him join the club from next season until at least the end of 2014. "The Terrigal Sharks junior is currently contracted with Wests Tigers and made his NRL debut against the Dragons in Round 1 of the 2008 season.

"Moltzen is a utility player who can play as either a centre, fullback or in the halves and has made a career total of 52 NRL appearances to date. He will join the Dragons in November."

 

[Goddo]

The dick head signed a contract. Thats binding.

The Tigers had a player they kept melt down, and are now trying to backtrack. I can understand why Moltzen wants to stay, but Wests have been cluster f***s in managing all this.

If he signs with St George then leaves, its screws with the Dragons player recruiting/management. Why should St George take that hurt on to be nice to the Tigers?

I recon let him go back to Wests, but Wests should pay some sort of compensation to St George.

 

[nrlnrl]

Agree fordy, however sheens thinks he is a fullback. I'm confident we'll see 1. Moltzen 7. Miller next year. Saints may end up with Mitch brown out of it, who while not as flashy, is a much better fullback them moltzen.

maybe let the Dragons have Jacob Miller instead, Tigers can keep Moltzen & Brown

 

[hybrid_tiger]

I can't believe all the fuss over such an average player.

He is not worth it. Let him f**king go. It's not as if we are losing an elite rep player: we already have our guns wrapped up.

 

[saint_marto88]

This quote from an SMH article this morning should put to bed any thoughts that Molzten himself is behind staying at the Tigers:

"The Tigers are standing firm in their belief that they can force Moltzen to stay with the club next year, and are willing to fight the Dragons to ensure that he does."

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...ns-services-20111005-1l9qf.html#ixzz1ZwX9auHr

This is all a result of the Tigers, their coaching staff and their management. Humphries is an inept unprofessional f**k.

At least it's something extra to talk about throughout the off-season

 

[DJShaksta]

If he is still actually contracted to the tigers for next year, and doesn't have an official release from the last year of that contract then his manager might be in a world of shite for letting sign a contract with the dragons in the first place

 

[Bobby DIGital]

LOL @ the Tigers and Dragons fighting over such a sh*t player.

 

[Western Saint]

It makes sense that he wouldnt wanna join, hes benjis bum chum so as far as im concerned they can keep him, but we better receive some sort of compensation from someone! We didn't pursue other backs due to this "deal" being signed and are disadvantaged if he leaves. I would rather have both Stanleys in my starting side anyway.

On the subject of the player manager there is no way hed have allowed Moltzen to sign unless this verbal agreement was iron clad and with someone that does the hiring and firing. Doust might be a crownie loving nuffie but ill bet he knows who his coach intends on cutting before it happens.

 

[Western Saint]

"SYDNEY powerhouses Wests Tigers and St George Illawarra are at war over Tim Moltzen because the star utility has signed official NRL contracts to play for both clubs next season."

Star utility? Fair dinkum lol

 

[Mr Angry]

The arguement is valid regardless of player talent.

Seems very Turner like.

 

[Goddo]

It makes sense that he wouldnt wanna join, hes benjis bum chum so as far as im concerned they can keep him, but we better receive some sort of compensation from someone! We didn't pursue other backs due to this "deal" being signed and are disadvantaged if he leaves. I would rather have both Stanleys in my starting side anyway.

On the subject of the player manager there is no way hed have allowed Moltzen to sign unless this verbal agreement was iron clad and with someone that does the hiring and firing. Doust might be a crownie loving nuffie but ill bet he knows who his coach intends on cutting before it happens.

This.

This is all a result of the Tigers, their coaching staff and their management. Humphries is an inept unprofessional f**k.

and this.

If Lui hadn't been arrested for assault, would the Tigers now be fighting for Moltzen? Why should St George wear the disruption to the squad because of the Tigers internal problems?