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Is Cleary a dud?

martielang

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The fact we’re extremely light on edge back rowers & he picks our last fit backrower at centre, says it all really.
 

Fangs

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Huge tactical error from Ivan. Fuiamaono is causing issues on both edges.

DWZ should have played centre, Edwards wing.

And Yeo v Xerri against the Sharks. Poor coaching.
 

Fangs

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Another one, picking Luai on the bench and giving him >20 minutes on field.

Dave's Mate needs to check the scoreboard.
 

mxlegend99

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Yes he is a dud. He has left the worst player to wear a Panthers jersey on the field 70 minutes atleast.

He just made an error as i write this. Fuimaono is a f**king disgrace to our jersey and Ivan is a f**king idiot for not hooking him.

If Fuimaono pulls our jersey on again I am done.
 

Fangs

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I blame Dave's Mate a lot more than Fui though.

Not his fault he was picked at centre. And it's not his fault he wasn't hooked after the the score went to 16-0 after the second try on his edge.

Then two more examples of the left edge when he moved him. One a try and another denied in the second half. Its really appalling coaching.
 

Fangs

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Another comforting presser.

'Ivan, how do you explain tonight's loss?'

Dave's Mate: 'I can't mate...more questions than answers'.

*5 minutes later*

'Ivan, would you reach out to Phil Gould for help?'

Dave's Mate: 'Oh yeah I guess, I mean I've got a pretty good idea about what we can do'.


Sigh.
 

franklin2323

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I blame Dave's Mate a lot more than Fui though.

Not his fault he was picked at centre. And it's not his fault he wasn't hooked after the the score went to 16-0 after the second try on his edge.

Then two more examples of the left edge when he moved him. One a try and another denied in the second half. Its really appalling coaching.

Yeah not Fui's fault he was played out of position
 

franklin2323

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I am getting concerned with Cleary's coaching skills. Elliott had a decent record before coming here. Like Elliott we don't have a plan b, c & d if we get injuries or struggle.

As the year goes on we aren't improving. Silly mistakes & errors are still there. Except for a handful of players we have the same squad next year.

We don't seem to change our gameplan for the players we have. We don't make changes to a struggling team.

7 years on... Still applies
 

Kilkenny

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I’m sorry but I simply don’t get the hate by singling out certain individuals after what happened this evening.

Tyrell Fuimaono was not to blame for what happened tonight and he is not deserving of the hate our problems are much deeper than him being selected out of position.

A broken down 35 year old dummy half by the name of Robbie Farah exposed us all too easily with simple but effective scoots out off dummy half and before I had finished my first pint we were 16 points down.

After there second try I said to the wife we were done then and there. The body language of our players behind the in goal line waiting for the conversation attempt said it all. We had nothing. Not saying we gave up or didn’t try our best but this current side is done. We invested a lot of faith and salary cap in players who are simply not capable of delivering a return on our investment.
 

Exsilium

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Ivan has been a dud for years. His record confirms this.

Not surprised at all by the results we’ve had over the last nine rounds.
 

billypilgrimnz

First Grade
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Cleary is obviously a good coach, but he makes some headscratchers just like anyone. Not having Segeyaro start until Kingston got injured just because Kingston was captain, playing Yeo on the wing, Whare at fullback, his love affair with Docker regardless of form.....but he is getting the job done overall.

And people accuse me of not being positive. See, I can be as deluded as anyone by a string of good results.
 

Das Hassler

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My guess would be that a good few of this squad were glad to not have too serious Bennett or Maquire come in and upset the lifestyle...what better than have our little buddy's easy going dad in charge....how much fun is this gonna be ?!
I think that's about it in a nutshell
 

Abacus

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I’m sorry but I simply don’t get the hate by singling out certain individuals after what happened this evening.

Tyrell Fuimaono was not to blame for what happened tonight and he is not deserving of the hate our problems are much deeper than him being selected out of position.

A broken down 35 year old dummy half by the name of Robbie Farah exposed us all too easily with simple but effective scoots out off dummy half and before I had finished my first pint we were 16 points down.

After there second try I said to the wife we were done then and there. The body language of our players behind the in goal line waiting for the conversation attempt said it all. We had nothing. Not saying we gave up or didn’t try our best but this current side is done. We invested a lot of faith and salary cap in players who are simply not capable of delivering a return on our investment.
Who hates Fui? He's not an NRL centre (maybe not NRL standard at all) but he didn't pick the team.

Most were saying before the game Fui shouldn't be at centre - unfortunately Dave's mate was not 1 of them.
 

The Rosco

Bench
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The good thing is . . . . Ivan isn't under pressure to perform.
And as we all know, pressure can lead to sub-standard performances.
He has time on his side . . . what, 4 1/2 seasons ? so he has plenty of time to get it right.
He also has the security of knowing he probably won't be sacked, because of the ridiculous deal he was offered as inducement to break a contract. We'd guess that your club wouldn't be too keen to add another coach to their payroll.
He should have a break out year any year now.
He shafted ole Gus, too . . . so now he is the apex clubfkker.
There. I got through a whole post without mentioning the K word. But you all know it.
Fkk it. Karma. There ! I said it.
Even if I was in charge of karma for only one day . . . and I can be a vindictive merkin . . . I wouldn't have let it get so bad for you poor merkins. I would have given you lot a break by now.
Enough is enough.
 

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