Is Latrell Mitchell overrated?

[Wb1234]

Did I say he was unfit? Please do not put words in my mouth, or read in things you think as that is not what I wrote at all.

This thread !

He's the worst and it's not even close

Want a reminder about Dylan edwards performance at rep level ? He was the kiwis best player

 

[Chins get the wins]

This thread !

Want a reminder about Dylan edwards performance at rep level ? He was the kiwis best player

Yeah he's not a winger, just like Latrell isn't a fullback

 

[Wb1234]

Yeah he's not a winger, just like Latrell isn't a fullback

Edwards is great player for Penrith

….

And nobody else

 

[mozza91]

Edwards is great player for Penrith

….

And nobody else

You could say that about most of your players bar JFH and Martin.

 

[Chins get the wins]

You could say that about most of your players bar JFH and Martin.

You're only going to look sillier and sillier as time passes

 

[blue bags]

It's called ADD attention to detail

 

[mozza91]

You're only going to look sillier and sillier as time passes

It’s factual. The Penrith connection have been a failure for NSW.

 

[ColdWetPanther]

It’s factual. The Penrith connection have been a failure for NSW.

Cleary has a significantly better SOO career than Joey did at the same age.

Of course, we all know the guy or girl who does Joey’s PR is the true immortal…

 

[mozza91]

Cleary has a significantly better SOO career than Joey did at the same age.

Of course, we all know the guy or girl who does Joey’s PR is the true immortal…

And you base this off what?

His 2 decent games where we won easily or the 12 where he’s been outplayed by the opposition half?

His SOO career is closer to Mitchell Pearce than it is Joey. And Pearce was playing against all time greats not the weakest Queensland sides of all time.

 

[Chins get the wins]

And you base this off what?

His 2 decent games where we won easily or the 12 where he’s been outplayed by the opposition half?

His SOO career is closer to Mitchell Pearce than it is Joey. And Pearce was playing against all time greats not the weakest Queensland sides of all time.

No you're thinking of the 1995 QLD Origin side......

 

[mozza91]

No you're thinking of the 1995 QLD Origin side......

Nah 3 of the last 4 years has them covered. Particularly 2020. You may have missed Cleary during this time because of his excellent Maddie McCann impersonation.

 

[Wb1234]

Cleary has a significantly better SOO career than Joey did at the same age.

Of course, we all know the guy or girl who does Joey’s PR is the true immortal…

Origin is where Penrith players go to die

fantastic club side though

 

[Wb1234]

In the 2021 grand final Adam Reynolds had a kick from the sideline to send the game to golden point

a game they could’ve won

wonder who the rabbits fullback was that day

 

[Chins get the wins]

In the 2021 grand final Adam Reynolds had a kick from the sideline to send the game to golden point

a game they could’ve won

wonder who the rabbits fullback was that day

Taaffe is a better fullback than Latrell

 

[Wb1234]

Taaffe is a better fullback than Latrell

Now you made a decent comment

plays half back too

I would’ve shifted latrell to 6, taffe at 1 and kept Reynolds

Cody Walker was the one they should’ve punted

losing Wayne bennett and Adam Reynolds is the reason why latrell (and souths) form is awful

 

[ColdWetPanther]

And you base this off what?

His 2 decent games where we won easily or the 12 where he’s been outplayed by the opposition half?

His SOO career is closer to Mitchell Pearce than it is Joey. And Pearce was playing against all time greats not the weakest Queensland sides of all time.

Let’s take off those glasses labelled nostalgia, and actually look at one Andrew ‘Joey’ Johns’ early SOO career.

Andrew debuted in the 2005 series. Now lots of QLD sides have been labelled ‘worst Queensland side ever’ but only one has had a coach who didn’t even know his players before entering camp. Against this mighty side Andrew was halfback in the first two games, where NSW scored a grand total of 12 points. He was dropped for the last game as Toovey came back from injury.

Let’s take a moment to talk about Toovey. A favourite of many, tough as they come, but no one is accusing him of being a generational talent. But over the next two series he was NSW’s halfback, and Johns was at hooker. 1996 and 1997 NSW played really well and won, and Joey won his first MoM in 1996 from Hooker.

In 1998 Johns was back at halfback and again NSW lost. Game 1 proved pivotal as NSW went down by 1 point despite NSW scoring 5 tries to 4. Goal kicking was the difference with the NSW kicker (you guessed it, A. Johns) only hitting 1 from 5).

1999 was a drawn series (so QLD) retained; so by this stage A Johns had been involved in 5 series, and the only ones won by NSW was with Toovey leading around the side.

NSW flogged QLD in 2000. But it was Brett Kimmorley leading around the Blues with Johns (admittedly injured for the first game) only getting two games off the bench.

That takes us to Johns being 26; same age as Cleary.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Now you made a decent comment

plays half back too

I would’ve shifted latrell to 6, taffe at 1 and kept Reynolds

Cody Walker was the one they should’ve punted

losing Wayne bennett and Adam Reynolds is the reason why latrell (and souths) form is awful

No, latrines form is awful because he’s a fat lazy grub with f**k all work ethic.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Let’s take of those glasses labelled nostalgia, and actually look at one Andrew ‘Joey’ Johns’ early SOO career.

Andrew debuted in the 2005 series. Now lots of QLD sides have been labelled ‘worst Queensland side ever’ but only one has had a coach who didn’t even know his players before entering camp. Against this mighty side Andrew was halfback in the first two games, where NSW scored a grand total of 12 points. He was dropped for the last game as Toovey came back from injury.

Let’s take a moment to talk about Toovey. A favourite of many, tough as they come, but no one is accusing him of being a generational talent. But over the next two series he was NSW’s halfback, and Johns was at hooker. 1996 and 1997 NSW played really well and won, and Joey won his first MoM in 1996 from Hooker.

In 1998 Johns was back at halfback and again NSW lost. Game 1 proved pivotal as NSW went down by 1 point despite NSW scoring 5 tries to 4. Goal kicking was the difference with the NSW kicker (you guessed it, A. Johns) only hitting 1 from 5).

1999 was a drawn series (so QLD) retained; so by this stage A Johns had been involved in 5 series, and the only ones won by NSW was with Toovey leading around the side.

NSW flogged QLD in 2000. But it was Brett Kimmorley leading around the Blues with Johns (admittedly injured for the first game) only getting two games off the bench.

That takes us to Johns being 26; same age as Cleary.

Tooves and Sterling are the greatest NSW 7s no contest. Joey next, daylight before anyone else, Luke Dorn, Kimmorley, then maybe Cleary, piss a bit further back.

 

[Wb1234]

Tooves and Sterling are the greatest NSW 7s no contest. Joey next, daylight before anyone else, Luke Dorn, Kimmorley, then maybe Cleary, piss a bit further back.

Sterling lmao

when qld were winning every year and they replaced him with Turvey to be successful

 

[ColdWetPanther]

Tooves and Sterling are the greatest NSW 7s no contest. Joey next, daylight before anyone else, Luke Dorn, Kimmorley, then maybe Cleary, piss a bit further back.

Tooves was amazing. He ‘got’ Origin. Later career Joey was very good, but my point is Cleary’s current Origin resume sh!ts all over Johns’ at the same time.

I do admit that Cleary needs to lift his game over the next few years to match what Johns did in his late 20s, but Johns shone brightly but burned out pretty quickly.