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Jarryd Hayne

Eelectrica

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Not sure they'd cut him just yet.
Might demote him back to the practice squad. Certainly a wake up call for Hayne.
Hopefully he's not one and done though.
 

BuffaloRules

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That sucks...

Was hoping Bills v Patriots would be Week 2 on 7mate but it clashes with 49ers game...

Wonder how many of Hayne's new fans will be setting the alarm for 3am to get up and watch?

So can they show the Bills v Patriots next week?

The reality of the Hayne experience at least in the short term must be setting in...

3-4 touches a game where we are mostly hoping he doesn't f**k up...
 
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Shorty

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Not sure they'd cut him just yet.
Might demote him back to the practice squad. Certainly a wake up call for Hayne.
Hopefully he's not one and done though.
Agreed, I think he'll get a couple more chances...but that's it.
 

chrisD

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It's a pretty big assumption they consider Davis ahead of Hayne at RB. I think Ellington is a better PR at this stage, but I'd take Hayne over Davis given his blocking held up fine today.

As for staying active, Bush is injured, so Ellington would be the only return man unless White plays (who was inactive today). Would they play with only one returner and no recognised back up active?

BTW they said they took Hayne off PR because Bush went down and couldn't risk their only other active RB on PR.
 

shiznit

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Not sure they'd cut him just yet.
Might demote him back to the practice squad. Certainly a wake up call for Hayne.
Hopefully he's not one and done though.
They can't just send him back to the practice squad...

They have to waive him first... And if no one picks him up he becomes a free agent and able to be signed to the practice squad...

I don't think he will make it through waivers without being picked up...
 

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Did anyone watch that Bill Parcells quotes show that was on this week - after Ravens/Steelers maybe? It was classic coaching - the guy is awesome.

At one point he takes the rookie PR aside and advises him - and says "I'll only tell you this once" - he advises him to act like a midfielder in baseball. Read the flight, set your feet, and catch. That's it.

He goes further to say watch all the dropped punts - the catcher either drifts (shuffles) or reaches. Avoid this and you wont drop the ball.

And today, we see Hayne drop one and what was he doing? Reaching.

A great bit of simple coaching wisdom followed by an example that illustrated his point.
 

shiznit

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It's a pretty big assumption they consider Davis ahead of Hayne at RB. I think Ellington is a better PR at this stage, but I'd take Hayne over Davis given his blocking held up fine today.

As for staying active, Bush is injured, so Ellington would be the only return man unless White plays (who was inactive today). Would they play with only one returner and no recognised back up active?

BTW they said they took Hayne off PR because Bush went down and couldn't risk their only other active RB on PR.
I'd have Davis ahead Hayne by a fair margin as a RB.

Davis is more reliable runner between the tackles... And he's a much safer option on pass protection.

I'd be REALLY surprised if Davis isn't backing up Hyde next week.
 

abpanther

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It's a pretty big assumption they consider Davis ahead of Hayne at RB. I think Ellington is a better PR at this stage, but I'd take Hayne over Davis given his blocking held up fine today.

As for staying active, Bush is injured, so Ellington would be the only return man unless White plays (who was inactive today). Would they play with only one returner and no recognised back up active?

BTW they said they took Hayne off PR because Bush went down and couldn't risk their only other active RB on PR.

I don't think it is, Davis got carries ahead of Hayne in preseason

I think Hayne will be active next week no doubt, what if Davis goes down!
 

Danish

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All the articles on the U.S. sports sites seem to be in agreement that Hayne will move up to 2nd string next week behind Hyde, so all this talk of his being inactive and dropped seems a bit premature to me.
 

shiznit

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All the articles on the U.S. sports sites seem to be in agreement that Hayne will move up to 2nd string next week behind Hyde, so all this talk of his being inactive and dropped seems a bit premature to me.
The media you need to pay attention to haven't even started going over it yet.

Pay no attention to the national US media... It's the local media in the Bay Area who will have a good feeling for it.

I regularly listen to the game radio station because I'm a Raiders fan.. But they cover both the Raiders and the 49ers closely... Listen to there 3 or 4 podcasts 2moro and you'll probably get an idea about how it's going down...
 

God-King Dean

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Waaaay premature
With Bush out he'll have a few weeks to strut his stuff and show he's reliable

But if he f**ks up a couple more times like the fumble today, then we should be concerned
 

nick87

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Yeah i dont think the fumble today is a big deal... unless he makes a habit of it. He just needs to put it out of his mind and move on.
 

big hit!

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Main reason Ellington came on to PR that time was the bizarre choice by the Vikings to accept the 5 yard penalty and punt again. Hayne had just caught a punt and made a tough 10yd return. Rather than have him on there puffing, they put on a fresh PR. Not that it would have worn Hayne out doing 1 catch / 10 yd return - but it was good coaching to put out someone fresh & different in that situation.

Hayne stuffed up by trying to make that catch. No doubt he will do it again.

I'd be more concerned about the charged down FG and massive return off that blunder than a bad choice about whether to catch or let it bounce.

It is critical to get every ST play right. No excuses for f**king these up in the NFL. The field position consequences on f**ked up ST plays are huge. The botched FG attempt Was bad. Haynes TO was bad. Niners lucky the Vikes couldn't capitalise. They'd be reamed if this game were against SEA or GB.

In Haynes case, he needs to be careful. Yes, we know what he can do in pre season, but if the coaches can't trust him to make the right call when fielding a punt, then he will see his opportunities evaporate. It's the proper season now. Mistakes can be the difference between a Win and a loss, and in the NFL, every win is crucial. There are few games to accumulate them, and due to the tie breaking procedures in use in the NFL, who you beat can be critical in advancing to playoffs.....division records, common opponents, and head to head games, etc.

for and against doesn't mean shit in the NFL. Just one loss against the wrong opponent can end the season.
 

big hit!

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Waaaay premature
With Bush out he'll have a few weeks to strut his stuff and show he's reliable

But if he f**ks up a couple more times like the fumble today, then we should be concerned

And hunter on IR too. At the moment, there are only 3 healthy RBs on that roster and 3 are always activated for game day.
 

Firey_Dragon

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Yeah i dont think the fumble today is a big deal... unless he makes a habit of it. He just needs to put it out of his mind and move on.

Pretty much. Had Bush not gone down and Ellington still got moved to PR, then it would be a cause for concern. However, Hayne's role throughout the game changed as a result. His 9-yarder was freaking impressive, had plenty of traffic in front of him.

Many more dropped balls like that first touch though, then he's in major trouble. It was as bad as a read gets in PR, he should have realised 10m from the ball that he should be darting left or right as far as possible to get away from that ball.
 

Firey_Dragon

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It's a pretty big assumption they consider Davis ahead of Hayne at RB. I think Ellington is a better PR at this stage, but I'd take Hayne over Davis given his blocking held up fine today.
Agreed.

Hayne was ahead of Davis on the squad list. Teams take that order pretty seriously, and if they are undecided a player would for example be listed as

Hyde, Bush, Hayne or Davis

instead of
Hyde, Bush, Hayne, Davis (which was how it was listed).
 

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