Dragonslayer
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I have a feeling that JDB will stand himself down and I think that would be the only avenue left to him that would, to some extent, appease sponsors, supporters and the NRL.
For the Dragons to allow him to train and continue to play means that they are behind the player and must be pretty confident he will beat the charge. Why would they risk damaging their name and reputation of the club for 1 player. I am sure they would have spoken to all their sponsors and board members about what they should do. The got rid of Fanoua-Blake who was a big up an comer straight away for a lesser crime so again they must have felt he was not innocent hence their action.
It is a huge risk though if he ends up being guilty with a 20 year jail sentence.
Don't try and fathom any reasoning of the Club for any decisions made these days. SGI management on and off the field is a basket case. AFB was a big loss to our club and yet Manly hired him no problems and he has turned out fine.
For what it is worth, I would like to see the NRL integrity unit assume responsibility in this area and the NRL itself assume all financial responsibility regarding any decisions made. Maybe the NRL should take out an insurance policy to cover this sort type of problem. In this way the NRL can suspend with pay and the Club can get on with the job without damaging its reputation.
Only in this way can the Club and team members remain loyal to JDB while at the same time get on with the job as the decision making has been taken out of their hands.
Do the sponsors, NRL, Club and supporters really need appeasing?I have a feeling that JDB will stand himself down and I think that would be the only avenue left to him that would, to some extent, appease sponsors, supporters and the NRL.
I hope he does!I have a feeling that JDB will stand himself down and I think that would be the only avenue left to him that would, to some extent, appease sponsors, supporters and the NRL.
I like this idea , so next question what would it mean in reference to the salary cap and your 30 top players? Ideas please?
I have tried to stay out of this and let the due process take it's course. I must say that I am VERY UNCOMFORTABLE with DeBelin playing whilst this process takes its course. Police do not simply lay charges without (i) sufficient evidence and (ii) sufficient prospects of success. And of course I understand that the Police do not always get it right and that the presumption of innocence stands.
SGI Management need to step in now and stand DeBelin down (with pay) until and unless this matter is settled. As a father of 4, including 2 daughters I am not sure I will be able to bring myself to watch the team play with DeBelin in it. I actually feel sick about the prospect of him playing. It's a terrible, terrible look for the Club.
Leadership and standing for something please gentlemen; and do not dare to have the temerity to host a "Women in League" event this year. Appalling.
have you thought that he may of given evidence to the club of his innocence and thats why the club is backing him and letting him play? As its a legal matter it would be in the best interest of the club and jack but unfortunate for the fans to say nothing of the matter.The club would of looked into it before makeing a descion to back him all the way like it seems there doing. the dragons hold a high integrity so im backing my club on this one..I have tried to stay out of this and let the due process take it's course. I must say that I am VERY UNCOMFORTABLE with DeBelin playing whilst this process takes its course. Police do not simply lay charges without (i) sufficient evidence and (ii) sufficient prospects of success. And of course I understand that the Police do not always get it right and that the presumption of innocence stands.
SGI Management need to step in now and stand DeBelin down (with pay) until and unless this matter is settled. As a father of 4, including 2 daughters I am not sure I will be able to bring myself to watch the team play with DeBelin in it. I actually feel sick about the prospect of him playing. It's a terrible, terrible look for the Club.
Leadership and standing for something please gentlemen; and do not dare to have the temerity to host a "Women in League" event this year. Appalling.
If stood down it has to be with pay as he has every right to earn an income and as he is not sacked or has not been politely terminated but the club chooses not to select him then the situation is very clear as to his entitlementsRD,
I, like you have two daughters.
I agree with all you have said with the exception of standing down with pay.
There should be no pay until the result is known.
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I have tried to stay out of this and let the due process take it's course. I must say that I am VERY UNCOMFORTABLE with DeBelin playing whilst this process takes its course. Police do not simply lay charges without (i) sufficient evidence and (ii) sufficient prospects of success. And of course I understand that the Police do not always get it right and that the presumption of innocence stands.
SGI Management need to step in now and stand DeBelin down (with pay) until and unless this matter is settled. As a father of 4, including 2 daughters I am not sure I will be able to bring myself to watch the team play with DeBelin in it. I actually feel sick about the prospect of him playing. It's a terrible, terrible look for the Club.
Leadership and standing for something please gentlemen; and do not dare to have the temerity to host a "Women in League" event this year. Appalling.
ScuMo....I like the way you weaved Cronulla into that, nice work.Something to think about re selecting or not selecting JDB to play.
If we were playing England at Wembley and after the game the players were to be presented their medals by the Queen would the ARU select JDB if he was in form?
If he was to play in a GF and presented to ScuMo who was handing out the premiership rings and had this hanging over his head would political pressure be exerted or would ScuMo maybe say best you find someone else to present the awards?
If he was to win the Clive Churchill medal on GF would Mrs Churchill be happy to present hm the award with this hanging over his head?
A conundrum indeed.
Regardless of whether he is an idiot or not at this time he is innocent until proven otherwise and is entitled to that presumption
Reading the allegations made in court this week was really sobering. What has stayed with me since reading that was that this is a case in which there doesn’t seem to be a lot of grey area. The allegations (and of course they are just allegations at this stage) don’t paint a picture of a misunderstanding or someone simply misreading sexual signals. Based on the admittedly little that I’ve read, the accuser is either completely making the story up or the allegations are true. I can’t see any middle ground on it.
I find myself uncomfortable contemplating if he should be allowed to play or be stood down.
I have tried to stay out of this and let the due process take it's course. I must say that I am VERY UNCOMFORTABLE with DeBelin playing whilst this process takes its course. Police do not simply lay charges without (i) sufficient evidence and (ii) sufficient prospects of success. And of course I understand that the Police do not always get it right and that the presumption of innocence stands.
SGI Management need to step in now and stand DeBelin down (with pay) until and unless this matter is settled. As a father of 4, including 2 daughters I am not sure I will be able to bring myself to watch the team play with DeBelin in it. I actually feel sick about the prospect of him playing. It's a terrible, terrible look for the Club.
Leadership and standing for something please gentlemen; and do not dare to have the temerity to host a "Women in League" event this year. Appalling.
The presumption of innocence is obvious, but this is a really odd thing to say. Who says that's a weird way to act for someone who might have just been raped by 2 jacked footballers? That reaction is perfectly in line with something a scared or shocked person would do. Especially if she had physical injuries inflicted upon her. Fear of running until "safe" is a very normal reaction.I found some strange elements in the way the situation played out after the alleged rapes had taken place. The newspaper report I read stated that the girl showered, booked an Uber for the three of them and proceeded to a nightclub with them. After being at the nightclub for a short time, only then did she go to hospital.
Even allowing for shock, this is certainly a strange way to respond to an assault.
Integrity... lol. This club cannot be trusted to do the right thing at all.
Remember when the head coach, Paul McGregor, got arrested for drink driving? Not only was he NOT sacked, the club tried to keep it secret from the NRL.