Kearney

[Poupou Escobar]

Thats crap, plenty examples of management f**k ups by not selecting the right person

But that's different to sacking a good coach that you've already got. They can see whether he's any good because he's at the club and under observation.

I agree plenty of clubs sign coaches and players that turn out to be duds. That can't be helped because you never know how they'll fit in until they arrive.

But letting go of coaches you should have kept? How often does that happen? And if Anderson is such a great coach why isn't he coaching somewhere else?

it happens everyday, from everything from recruiting the right player or coach, or re-signing or drafting, hell just look at the list of exx eels players running around in the NRL, bad example.

See above. Signing the wrong guy happens with both players and coaches but when it comes to sacking guys that should have been kept, it never happens with coaches.

 

[Mr Pmatta]

:lol: You've just done it again - blind faith in authority to the bitter end, rather than any element of critical or independent thinking. That's how Australia ended up with so many troops massacred in past wars, simply adhering to the authority of our British commanders.

Bartman I dont know why u and others bother with this guy, u and anyone that dares to have a different opinion will NEVER win an argument with an irrational, deluded narcisist like himself, he calls most of the people on this site whingers etc which we have every right to be at this point with the utter crap our team is dishing up, Pou I would rather be a whinger, than talk ill of the dead as u did about the late Sean Burns a few weeks ago after a loss, you cant stoop any lower than that, so what ever come backs u have which u always do regardless, that low comment u made will define you as the sort person u are in my opinion, that being far from decent, bring it bud.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I probably have a different view of death to you, which may go some way to explaining my sense of humour.

Regardless, I'm sorry if I caused offence.

 

[Ron Jeremy]

But that's different to sacking a good coach that you've already got. They can see whether he's any good because he's at the club and under observation.

I agree plenty of clubs sign coaches and players that turn out to be duds. That can't be helped because you never know how they'll fit in until they arrive.

But letting go of coaches you should have kept? How often does that happen? And if Anderson is such a great coach why isn't he coaching somewhere else?



See above. Signing the wrong guy happens with both players and coaches but when it comes to sacking guys that should have been kept, it never happens with coaches.

a coach is always judged by results, thats the bottom line, look at any professional sport, no matter what other things they do for the club, results is all that matters.

But thats why they are coaches, to identify talent, nurture them into their system, it reflects poorly on the coach if he cannot adjust them to the team.

 

[bartman]

:lol: You've just done it again - letting your insecurity about authority figures cloud your judgement.

Hmmm, nice try ;-). I'm not the one justifying decisions by saying it must have been right, purely because the people in charge at the time said so...

Authority figures should be put under the same scrutiny as anyone else, and yes they make just as many mistakes as anyone else. It's how they admit that and respond to it that gives a measure of their leadership qualities, not the mere fact they snagged some position in the first place.

 

[bartman]

Two things:

1. Hayne took us to that grand final.

It takes 17. Hayne was playing like a freak, but as his form since has shown, one player can't replicate the work of 17 people doing their bit to a decent plan...

2. Anderson wasn't punted for poor results; he was punted for the reason that Kearney was brought in - because the club needed rebuilding.

Anderson was replaced because of our long-term issues, not for what had happened in the short-term.

Dream on... it looks like Anderson was replaced and paid a year's salary due to politics and mateship. The "review" was a puff piece designed to cover up the true backroom machinations that impacted on our 2010 season.

 

[bartman]

Bartman I dont know why u and others bother with this guy, u and anyone that dares to have a different opinion will NEVER win an argument with an irrational, deluded narcisist like himself

Firstly, because it's actually fun watching him swap sides in his opinions as often as he swaps underwear, and trying to justify it by lashing out at others. And secondly, the average joe actually wins any argument against his dribble masquerading as opinion/logic, simply by speaking out in opposition to it. Only the very easily sways would be convinced that PP talks any sense on here.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Hmmm, nice try ;-). I'm not the one justifying decisions by saying it must have been right, purely because the people in charge at the time said so...

Authority figures should be put under the same scrutiny as anyone else, and yes they make just as many mistakes as anyone else. It's how they admit that and respond to it that gives a measure of their leadership qualities, not the mere fact they snagged some position in the first place.

So the rest of the league world are also wrong not to sign supercoach Anderson up?

Ah that's right. The only reason he's not coaching is because he doesn't feel like it.

 

[bartman]

Who cares about Anderson, he's clearly making enough money in the media, and you or I wouldn't know a thing about what offers he's had. How does Anderson's future choices justify your continuing staunch/blind support of Kearney's pathetic performance? Thankfully, in looking for another coach to come in the Board have seen the error of their ways - even though you couldn't.

It seems with your approach to bowing to authority, you will never see any errors before they are officially announced in retrospect by whichever authority figure is writing the history at the time.

 

[Stagger eel]

Who cares about Anderson, he's clearly making enough money in the media, and you or I wouldn't know a thing about what offers he's had. How does Anderson's future choices justify your continuing staunch/blind support of Kearney's pathetic performance? Thankfully, in looking for another coach to come in the Board have seen the error of their ways - even though you couldn't.

It seems with your approach to bowing to authority, you will never see any errors before they are officially announced in retrospect by whichever authority figure is writing the history at the time.

well Bart, you might want to say the same thing to the likes of Sparton and Ifr33k who continually bring him up, and you're exactly right, I'm sure he's enjoying getting paid 350k less than he would if he was a head coach thanks to a healthy sallary from the ABC...:lol:

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Who cares about Anderson, he's clearly making enough money in the media, and you or I wouldn't know a thing about what offers he's had.

Maybe media's more his bag then. Clearly all those clubs chasing him aren't offering enough money. :lol:

How does Anderson's future choices justify your continuing staunch/blind support of Kearney's pathetic performance?

They justify the board sacking him and looking for someone else.

Thankfully, in looking for another coach to come in the Board have seen the error of their ways - even though you couldn't.

If the board sack Kearney I will support it. Just like I supported them sacking Anderson and signing Kearney in the first place.

Just like I supported the last board signing Anderson.

It seems with your approach to bowing to authority

You keep trying to make this a masculinity issue bartman, but I've already won there - I've married a pretty girl, fathered a child, gone to war, blah blah blah.

You should probably give it a rest.

you will never see any errors before they are officially announced in retrospect by whichever authority figure is writing the history at the time.

I just trust the cream to rise to the top bartman. With you obviously being on the bottom it's understandable you refuse to see it that way.

 

[Kornstar]

well Bart, you might want to say the same thing to the likes of Sparton and Ifr33k who continually bring him up, and you're exactly right, I'm sure he's enjoying getting paid 350k less than he would if he was a head coach thanks to a healthy sallary from the ABC...:lol:

I think the anti Anderson brigade bring him up more than anyone, as it suits their argument at the time......

 

[Stagger eel]

I think the anti Anderson brigade bring him up more than anyone, as it suits their argument at the time......

actually you know what, I don't think there is an anti DA brigade, it's only brought up when certain people can't let go.

DA has copped nothing compared to the personal attacks that Hagan and Kearney have copped from here.

 

[Kornstar]

actually you know what, I don't think there is an anti DA brigade, it's only brought up when certain people can't let go.

DA has copped nothing compared to the personal attacks that Hagan and Kearney have copped from here.

Out of the 3, he was the only one to get us to a GF and then when they were turning on him, he was sacked......so the board did the attack on him for them......

You are right though, maybe not anti Anderson, more like the blindly follow SK brigade.......

 

[Eels Dude]

I think the anti Anderson brigade bring him up more than anyone, as it suits their argument at the time......

I agree with you to a certain extent. A lot of it comes from someone making a snide comment like "Our last coach left us with a s**t roster" or "our last coach made THAT comment about not knowing how he got them to win" and it flows from there.

 

[Stagger eel]

maybe we should put a blanket ban on mentioning previous coach's at the club??

 

[Kornstar]

maybe we should put a blanket ban on mentioning previous coach's at the club??

Never going to happen. We all can't help ourselves, we are all passionate and have differing opinions, so it will continue to happen until the club is successful again, unfortunately.......

 

[Stagger eel]

Never going to happen. We all can't help ourselves, we are all passionate and have differing opinions, so it will continue to happen until the club is successful again, unfortunately.......

ok fair enough...

 

[Kornstar]

ok fair enough...

Don't you agree? I'm not saying I disagree with your thoughts, just saying that I don't think any of us could commit to it is all......

 

[Stagger eel]

Don't you agree? I'm not saying I disagree with your thoughts, just saying that I don't think any of us could commit to it is all......

well having thought about it, you're probably right, most of us would be happy to oblige to a gentlemens agreement and then you got loose cannons like casper...no, you're right, it won't work.