Latest IMG proposals for Super League

[Wb1234]

That's not how the system is going to work. If London want a SL place they have to improve the club. As it should be.

5k crowds already bigger than Wakey
Better stadium
More junior:

 

[Perth Red]

5k crowds already bigger than Wakey
Better stadium
More junior:

Have you seen the grading system?

Wakey finished 11th and London 24th! Behind a club that went bust. Should tell you something.

London are lower ranked than half the championship clubs, let alone the SL clubs. London has a lot of potential, always had had, but it needs major investors who can fund it for a long time, and they just dont have that at the moment. Throwing them in Sl like has happened this year before they are ready is a disaster and they will undoubtably finish last, possibly without a win all year. Thats not good for London or SL.

 

[RedVee]

That's not how the system is going to work. If London want a SL place they have to improve the club. As it should be.

Is there a minimum capacity for grounds?

 

[Wb1234]

Esky

Have you seen the grading system?

Wakey finished 11th and London 24th! Behind a club that went bust. Should tell you something.

London are lower ranked than half the championship clubs, let alone the SL clubs. London has a lot of potential, always had had, but it needs major investors who can fund it for a long time, and they just dont have that at the moment. Throwing them in Sl like has happened this year before they are ready is a disaster and they will undoubtably finish last, possibly without a win all year. Thats not good for London or SL

Wakey couldn’t spend full salary cap in super league

 

[Perth Red]

Esky

Wakey couldn’t spend full salary cap in super league

They have a new rich owner whose throwing money at the club. rumoured theyve just signed International winger Johnstone.

Exclusive: New Wakefield Trinity owner makes huge multi-million investment pledge as he sets out long-term vision

New Wakefield owner Matt Ellis has promised to deliver a sustainable future for the club and has stressed he will invest millions to make that happen.

www.loverugbyleague.com

 

[Wb1234]

They have a new rich owner whose throwing money at the club. rumoured theyve just signed International winger Johnstone.

Exclusive: New Wakefield Trinity owner makes huge multi-million investment pledge as he sets out long-term vision

New Wakefield owner Matt Ellis has promised to deliver a sustainable future for the club and has stressed he will invest millions to make that happen.

www.loverugbyleague.com

They haven’t been missed from super league

 

[Perth Red]

Is there a minimum capacity for grounds?

yes 5000 min. 2000 seats.
points for level of utilisation ie, the fuller the stadium the more points.
points for primacy of tenure ie if youre main tenant or owned more points.
points for LED advertising boards
points for permanent big screen

Max for stadium is 3points

 

[Perth Red]

They haven’t been missed from super league

again irrelevant.
theres a grading system if clubs want to get into SL they need to get their sht together and get a higher points tally than the 12th placed club.

 

[Wb1234]

again irrelevant.
theres a grading system if clubs want to get into SL they need to get their sht together and get a higher points tally than the 12th placed club.

London will get more points this year being in super league

 

[Pleb]

Why is London so far down on the list? Don’t really follow SL much last few years

 

[RedVee]

Why is London so far down on the list? Don’t really follow SL much last few years

They haven’t been in SL for years, haven’t had a regular home in the last few years. Now they have made their way back up to SL and seem to have found a suitable home ground.

 

[jim_57]

yes 5000 min. 2000 seats.
points for level of utilisation ie, the fuller the stadium the more points.
points for primacy of tenure ie if youre main tenant or owned more points.
points for LED advertising boards
points for permanent big screen

Max for stadium is 3points

I’ve always found the main tenant and fuller stadium ones a bit pointless. Would I be right in saying that Hull FC getting 14k at MKM would be getting less points than Castleford getting 7k? Toulouse would score better at their old small stadium even if it meant their crowds drop?

 

[Perth Red]

Why is London so far down on the list? Don’t really follow SL much last few years

Not much money, very few fans low finishing positions and only just moved into stadium. They will score better this year due to position and stadium and hopefully have increased fan reach but still nowhere near top 12.

 

[Perth Red]

I’ve always found the main tenant and fuller stadium ones a bit pointless. Would I be right in saying that Hull FC getting 14k at MKM would be getting less points than Castleford getting 7k? Toulouse would score better at their old small stadium even if it meant their crowds drop?

The theory is full stadiums look better on tv than empty ones.

 

[Perth Red]

Scoring criteria for this that may have not seen it

https://www.rugby-league.com/uploads/docs/IMG%20&%20Rugby%20League%20Grading%20Criteria%202023.pdf

 

[Perth Red]

Preliminary rankings

Super League​

1. Leeds Rhinos – A – 17.49 – Super League

2. Wigan Warriors – A – 16.87 – Super League

3. St Helens – A – 16.78 – Super League

4. Catalans Dragons – A – 16.73 – Super League

5. Warrington Wolves – A – 15.75 – Super League

6. Hull KR – A – 15.52 – Super League

7. Hull FC – A – 15.05 – Super League

8. Salford Red Devils – B – 13.80 – Super League

9. Huddersfield Giants – B – 13.49 – Super League

10. Toulouse Olympique – B – 12.97 – Championship

11. Wakefield Trinity – B – 12.52 – Championship

12. Leigh Leopards – B – 12.45 – Super League

Championship​

13. Castleford Tigers – B – 12.16 – Super League

14. Bradford Bulls – B – 12.02 – Championship

15. Featherstone Rovers – B – 10.65 – Championship

16. Widnes Vikings – B – 10.17 – Championship

17. York RLFC – B – 10.05 – Championship

18. Newcastle Thunder – B – 9.30 – TBC

19. Barrow Raiders – B – 9.18 – Championship

20. Halifax Panthers – B – 9.06 – Championship

21. Batley Bulldogs – B – 8.62 – Championship

22. Sheffield Eagles – B – 8.36 – Championship

23. Doncaster RLFC – B – 8.11 – Championship


24. London Broncos – B – 8.07 – Super League

25. Oldham RLFC – C – 7.39 – League 1

26. Swinton Lions – C – 7.21 – Championship

League 1​

27. Dewsbury Rams – C – 7.10 – Championship

28. Rochdale Hornets – C – 7.03 – League 1

29. Hunslet RLFC – C – 6.94 – League 1

30. Keighley Cougars – Grade C – 6.58 – League 1

31. Workington Town – C – 6.54 – League 1

32. Whitehaven RLFC – C – 6.27 – Championship

33. Midlands Hurricanes – C – 5.92 – League 1

34. Cornwall RLFC – C – 5.75 – League 1

35. North Wales Crusaders – C – 5.07 – League 1

 

[RedVee]

Preliminary rankings

Super League​

1. Leeds Rhinos – A – 17.49 – Super League

2. Wigan Warriors – A – 16.87 – Super League

3. St Helens – A – 16.78 – Super League

4. Catalans Dragons – A – 16.73 – Super League

5. Warrington Wolves – A – 15.75 – Super League

6. Hull KR – A – 15.52 – Super League

7. Hull FC – A – 15.05 – Super League

8. Salford Red Devils – B – 13.80 – Super League

9. Huddersfield Giants – B – 13.49 – Super League

10. Toulouse Olympique – B – 12.97 – Championship

11. Wakefield Trinity – B – 12.52 – Championship

12. Leigh Leopards – B – 12.45 – Super League

Championship​

13. Castleford Tigers – B – 12.16 – Super League

14. Bradford Bulls – B – 12.02 – Championship

15. Featherstone Rovers – B – 10.65 – Championship

16. Widnes Vikings – B – 10.17 – Championship

17. York RLFC – B – 10.05 – Championship

18. Newcastle Thunder – B – 9.30 – TBC

19. Barrow Raiders – B – 9.18 – Championship

20. Halifax Panthers – B – 9.06 – Championship

21. Batley Bulldogs – B – 8.62 – Championship

22. Sheffield Eagles – B – 8.36 – Championship

23. Doncaster RLFC – B – 8.11 – Championship


24. London Broncos – B – 8.07 – Super League

25. Oldham RLFC – C – 7.39 – League 1

26. Swinton Lions – C – 7.21 – Championship

League 1​

27. Dewsbury Rams – C – 7.10 – Championship

28. Rochdale Hornets – C – 7.03 – League 1

29. Hunslet RLFC – C – 6.94 – League 1

30. Keighley Cougars – Grade C – 6.58 – League 1

31. Workington Town – C – 6.54 – League 1

32. Whitehaven RLFC – C – 6.27 – Championship

33. Midlands Hurricanes – C – 5.92 – League 1

34. Cornwall RLFC – C – 5.75 – League 1

35. North Wales Crusaders – C – 5.07 – League 1

What does the bold indicate?

 

[Perth Red]

What does the bold indicate?

Clubs not currently in that division that would be if the grading was in effect. So if the grades stayed same Wakey and Toulouse would be in SL and London and Cas would be out.

 

[jim_57]

The theory is full stadiums look better on tv than empty ones.

There is no scoring for actual crowd size though. A club getting 18k in a 20k stadium should get more points than a club getting 4.5k in a 5k stadium even though they’re both 90% full.

 

[Perth Red]

There is no scoring for actual crowd size though. A club getting 18k in a 20k stadium should get more points than a club getting 4.5k in a 5k stadium even though they’re both 90% full.

Yes it should have a score for actual crowd size. That and the fact there are no points for player production are the obvious tweaks it needs.

though crowd size would skew massively in favour of SL clubs,