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Luke Walsh

mxlegend99

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Point is your more than willing to slam him....but not other players...yet when he has a good game it tastes like vinegar to praise him, yet you'll braise others. And where did you exactly say the loss WASN'T on Walsh. All you've done this week so far is to slam him pretty much. You haven't slammed Lewis who hasn't had 1 good game this year...at least Walsh has had that...It is just pure hatred and bias on your part & it is getting old.
All i've done this week? I've barely been here this week and unlike Purtell it's not a sour feeling at all to praise him after a good game. Because he has had far many more good games and I know that he is capable of being a good half... but he has never been remotely consistent and so far there has been nothing to suggest that has changed.

Lewis has been shit this year... but I put that down to him being moved from lock and not getting quality ball from our halves. At lock he got the ball and could make things happen himself. The reason he dominates there are rep level is because of the service he gets. IMO he should also be playing down the left side of the field with Jenko, so no matter how the ball is spread to the left it's in the hands of a dangerous ball runner.



I'm not "sticking up" for Walsh. I'm just not willing to deathride him like you are.
I give my opinion of him and you defend him... that's sticking up for him. :p

I'm not "defending every signing" I'm just willing to let it ride out now instead of crucifying it and judge each acquisition on its merits.
IMO the signings haven't improved from previous years and come off as the exact same quality of player for the exact same quality of players lost. That's not crucifying the signings, that's pointing out an area that is YET to improve IMO.

As for the contracts...they are the bloody perfect length as it would allow significant cap room in the year when we'll likely have the most significant jump in the cap and by then all BAD contracts will be off the books. It is cap management 1.01. Although I doubt you'd give a shit. You'll just say it is stupid anyway.
Yep re-signing Walsh and Tighe to 3 YEAR contracts before the season has kicked off under our new coach. Signing other teams rejects to 2 year deals... and signing our former juniors to 1 year deals. That's not at all like what our previous management was doing. I'm not saying that none of these signings could prove to be great for us, but for the most part they are no better then what we had and 1 year deals could have helped filter out the waste for the 2013 season and allowed us to have more cap space.

The fact is we are negotiating with players, and yes, one is a half. Walsh is on a very cap friendly contract so you may get your freaking wish soon enough.
We've been rumoured to be chasing big name plays for years and the only time one stuck was when Gower left and we had a huge advantage financially in signing Petero. Hopefully Gus can change that, but until it happens there's not much point in listening to the rumours. Atleast not until they have some legs behind them and seem a bit more specific.
 

franklin2323

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We are no chance of winning the comp this year so we should be playing siejka and Austin in the halves imo

I can see Austin being a 6 for us before the years out. If the rumours I am hearing about us going after a 'quality' half are true. I don't know where that leaves Siejka. As for Walsh he was decent we were smashed up front & kept going sideways. His pass to put Coote in a gap was great.
 

Kilkenny

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When I first watched young Harry in Harold Matts I honesty thought he was our next Greg Alexander. He probably hasn't quite come on as most of us would have hoped. I still think he is capable of playing NRL but the decision to resign Luke Walsh long term (three year deal) doesn't exactly enhance young Harry's prospects. This year is probably make or break for Harry.
 

Fibroman

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Walsh is no athlete. He is not strong. He is not fast, but he has got great hands and a great ability to stick a pass. He's not the best halfback in the world, but I think he has a lot more to offer than Seijka at this point in time.
 

age.s

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Walsh is no athlete. He is not strong. He is not fast, but he has got great hands and a great ability to stick a pass. He's not the best halfback in the world, but I think he has a lot more to offer than Seijka at this point in time.

He's pretty quick, good accelleration and step, and he's got a knack for finding gaps when he's looking for them. I've always maintained that he's got all the ability to be a quality halfback. In fact the only thing I don't think he'll ever have is a long kicking game, something he gets lauded for regularly.

He was very good tonight. It's hard to know what to make of that game because Parra were really really bad. Still his passes were crisp and well directed. He kicked well, made some good tackles. Can't fault him at all.
 

mxlegend99

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What now MX?

Guess he is still shit?
I predicted he would tear the Eels a new one you twit. The Eels are in god awful form and any half will look like a star against them. No way he was best on field though.

This is just another game to strengthen the fact he has no consistency... Which is his biggest problem and the thing holding him back from being a quality first grade halfback. If he could do this for 5 weeks in a row against varied quality opponents it would be one thing, but doing it only against spoon contenders is hardly proof he has improved.
 

soc123_au

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I think Burns was better last night although Walsh did look like a great halfback in the first half. The passing game was much better, combined with running to the line & it seemed there was a bit of urgency in moving the ball where it needed to go. 2nd half was a bit scrappy. As stated it is hard to judge how good it actually was due to how bad Parra were, although you can only play what you are up against. That is the type of game he needs to produce every week.
 

abpanther

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I thought our havles looked as good as they have for a long time, but it's hard to judge given how shit the Eels were.

Walsh was good last week in a beaten effort, this week with the forwards rolling he was great. When he takes the line on that's when he's at his best, more variety in his game. It's clear that he has been told to run it more and when he does it creates opportunities. I also noticed he was giving much earlier ball to our outside men.

Burns was also very good I thought, solid as always in defense and he too it seems has been given the directive to run it a little more and straighten up the attack. I think taking the line on is what he does best with ball in hand, he has pretty good feet at the line and is strong as an ox. I also thought he gave pretty good service to the outside men.

I also noticed Coote playing a little 5/8 and doing more general kicking, I like this very much, I hope he continues to expand this role as it gives us another point of attack. I thought Coote was good last night, his support play is second to none, he always seems to be in the right place at the right time.
 

Doomednow

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So many players looked great last night, but they were playing against an opposition playing like shit.
 

maple_69

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Coote went into 5/8 against the Rabbits as well and looked quite good. I think his playmaking ability is one of his greatest strengths and we definitely need to use both him and Lewis to take the pressure of our halves at times if we're going to run with Burns at 5/8.
 

Big Mick

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I predicted he would tear the Eels a new one you twit. The Eels are in god awful form and any half will look like a star against them. No way he was best on field though.

This is just another game to strengthen the fact he has no consistency... Which is his biggest problem and the thing holding him back from being a quality first grade halfback. If he could do this for 5 weeks in a row against varied quality opponents it would be one thing, but doing it only against spoon contenders is hardly proof he has improved.

yawn
 

mxlegend99

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Mick here's what I posted during the week:

Against the Souths he looked just like the Luke Walsh of 2011. A defensive liability and didn't create shit for us in attack. I wouldn't be at all shocked for him to tear the Eels a new one this weekend, but at the rate they're going even Adrian Purtell could slot into halfback and do that.

If he can perform like that for a few weeks in a row against quality opposition, I'll consider that it's possible he has improved since last year. But between the Dogs and Souths games, and his great games being against the Eels and Roosters.... I'm not seeing any reason to believe anything has changed.

He has always had the odd great game. But until he can string them together it's irrelevant. The only thing I'll hand to him this year is that he's atleast not trying to rely on kicks every play to make himself look good. Whenever he takes on the line he looks dangerous, and he has done that alot more this season. But consistency makes a good season, not a few good games.
 

Big Mick

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I know what you posted Mx.

And I know the motivation for it too.

You had to do it because if he did do it, then you knew what you'd get on here. But if he didn't have a great game then you'd be validated in your mind.

Either way in your mind you couldn't lose.

But no matter what the guy does good you always couch it with something bad, it can just never be...just giving the bloke credit.

It's getting old and pathetic.....you twit.

Now I'll just await the quoting and responding to each line.
 
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mxlegend99

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I know what you posted Mx.

And I know the motivation for it too.

You had to do it because if he did do it, then you knew what you'd get on here. But if he didn't have a great game then you'd be validated in your mind.

Either way in your mind you couldn't lose.

But no matter what the guy does good you always couch it with something bad, it can just never be...just giving the bloke credit.

It's getting old and pathetic.....you twit.

Now I'll just await the quoting and responding to each line.
It wasn't to cover my ass, it was the same team he carved up at the start of last year. This time the Eels are just a lot worse. You're kidding yourself if you think that any other half at the club wouldn't have destroyed them also... every player who ran the ball looked near unstoppable most of the time.

When he can do it a few weeks in a row against teams who aren't likely to battle it out for the wooden spoon, I'll give him credit for it. If a player can turn their careers around I'll happily change my opinion of them just as I have with Nathan Smith after his strong season in 2010.
 

age.s

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I know what you posted Mx.

And I know the motivation for it too.

You had to do it because if he did do it, then you knew what you'd get on here. But if he didn't have a great game then you'd be validated in your mind.

Either way in your mind you couldn't lose.

But no matter what the guy does good you always couch it with something bad, it can just never be...just giving the bloke credit.

It's getting old and pathetic.....you twit.

Now I'll just await the quoting and responding to each line.

Please :roll: If Walsh keeps playing well and MX still slams him fair enough. Either way we'll find out in a couple of months.

I don't see the problem with taking the Eels game with a grain of salt, they were abysmal. We're way too early in the season to be talking about the guy having a consistent year.
 

Big Mick

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Yes age...you are right.

But we are also WAY too early in the season to be talking about the guy having an inconsistent year and slamming him for that.

THAT is my point. Has a good game...then it is everyone else and he didn't do that much. If we lose...then it is all his fault.

Assess each game on its merit instead of jumping on him each week.
 

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