Manly don't want Hasler in 2012

[The.X.Factor9]

This....we are the premiers and this is what matters at the end of the day - the dogs think they will just turn up with Des and win - LOL:lol:

You have NFI what the dogs think so don't make it out like you do !

Des was signed to help fix up our footballing operations and to put systems in place; which is all part of a 5-10 year plan by Greenberg. Contrary to popular belief the Dogs to have juniors(and great players coming through the ranks) but we have been unable to create a streamline them into first grade. The Board and TG are hoping this will be ratified with the acquisition of Des, setting the dogs up for long term success. There may be some fans who think we will get instant success but the club knows success will come in the long term.

I bid good day to you sir!

 

[firechild]

Des has denied these accusations - furthermore Crusher began negotiating with the Bulldogs 1 month ago.

Of course Des would deny the accusations. As for Crusher, there are reports (as stated on the big sports breakfast this morning) that Des signed mid year and he was the one that kept telling the club to put the negotiations on hold (since he had already signed with the dogs but didn't want to tell Manly) which means that Des just had to give Crusher the word around GF time and the rest is history.

 

[El Diablo]

http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=272458712795379

Des Hasler responds to his sacking
by Rugby League Week on Friday, November 11, 2011 at 2:03pm

Former Manly Coach Des Hasler today expressed his disappointment at the decision of the Board of Directors of the Manly Club to terminate his contract over allegations that he had “disparaged the Board”, and had attempted to encourage staff members to join the Bulldogs Club where he is contracted to coach in season 2013:

I have not acted in any way improperly. Despite three requests being made to the Chairman of the Board of Directors since I was stood down on Wednesday of this week, I have still not been provided with any proper particularization of what it is that I am supposed to have done. In fact, the Board’s lawyers did not even have the courtesy to respond to my most recent correspondence. It would have been simple, had the allegations had any substance at all, to provide me with the information to which I am legally entitled.

One of the allegations contained in the Breach Notice was that I had “disparaged the Board”, yet when I met with the Chairman on 10 November, the day after the Notice had been issued, he told me that he wasn’t pressing that. The fact that the Chairman, and the Board, have been unable to provide me with the information to which I am entitled, along with the fact that one of the allegations which was made was withdrawn by the Chairman less than 24 hours later, provide the clearest possible indication that the allegations made against me are without any foundation whatsoever. It would have been a very simple exercise to tell me how it is that I am supposed to have acted improperly.

Hasler also expressed his disappointment at the fact that the Board, despite having a number of opportunities over a period of 18 months, had repeatedly failed to sign him to a new deal beyond season 2012.

I first approached the Board of Directors about my contract in late 2010. At that time I was contracted to the Club until the end of season 2011 but with an option for season 2012. However, I proposed that I be provided with a new contract to allow me to remain at the Club until at least the end of season 2014 but the Board of Directors flatly rejected my proposal and expressed a desire to wait pending the team’s performance in season 2011.

Earlier this season, in about April, I was approached by the Board to discuss my contract. However, by June this year I had no firm offer from the Club and in these circumstances I exercised the option to allow me to remain at the Club for season 2012.

The negotiations continued in the course of which I continually expressed a desire to remain at the Club beyond season 2012. Quite apart from my own personal desire, it was obviously important to have stability at the Club so as to attract prospective signings and to re-sign players. Players want to know who is going to coach them. I was told by the Club that my salary for 2012 would not be substantially increased over and above what I was paid for season 2011 and no agreement which was acceptable to me could be reached in relation to my salary for 2013 and 2014.

I then approached the Chairman of the Club and in view of the Club’s inability to provide a satisfactory offer for seasons 2013 and 2014, I sought a release from the exercise of my option for season 2012. The Chairman informed me that no release would be granted and that if necessary, the Club would litigate the matter.

It was in these circumstances that I negotiated with the Bulldogs to become the Head Coach for seasons 2013, 2014 and beyond.

Hasler chose not to comment in detail upon statements made by a number of people, including former Sea Eagles CEO Ken Arthurson, about his position:

I have known Ken for a long time but I don’t think that it is at all helpful to comment upon what he and others have said. I know in my own mind that I have not acted improperly. Ken and the other Manly greats who have commented are obviously not directly involved and not aware of the facts. Whether they choose to accept what I say or not is a matter for them.

Hasler said that he would now consider his position and in doing so would speak with Bulldogs CEO Todd Greenberg:

The Manly Board have unlawfully terminated my contract and I will be seeking further legal advice regarding my remedies in relation to that unlawful conduct.

As for my immediate future, I will be speaking with Todd Greenberg over the next few days. I am obviously looking forward to coaching at the Bulldogs.

I wish to thank the players and staff at Manly who have shown me great loyalty and support, particularly over the last several weeks. I wish them the best.

Because of the possibility of litigation in the immediate future, I will not be making any further comment.

 

[firechild]

I find that hard to believe. It would depend on how the contract clauses are written. I do know one contract breach (person A) does not invalidate another clause in a separate contract (person B), unless exactly that scenario is written into the clause of person B.

I do not know how the contracts are worded but after everything that has been reported recently, I thought it was common knowledge that the clauses were invalidated if De$ was sacked for breach of contract. This is a big part of the reason why Manly were pushing for a breach of contract result rather than just sacking him a few weeks ago.

 

[El Diablo]

going to get ugly

:lol: @ Manly

 

[_Johnsy]

The manly board are making the Tigpies board look like pure professionals.

 

[ouwet]

This....we are the premiers and this is what matters at the end of the day - the dogs think they will just turn up with Des and win - LOL:lol:

Manly imploding = :lol::lol:

 

[ManlyMania]

You have NFI what the dogs think so don't make it out like you do !

Des was signed to help fix up our footballing operations and to put systems in place; which is all part of a 5-10 year plan by Greenberg. Contrary to popular belief the Dogs to have juniors(and great players coming through the ranks) but we have been unable to create a streamline them into first grade. The Board and TG are hoping this will be ratified with the acquisition of Des, setting the dogs up for long term success. There may be some fans who think we will get instant success but the club knows success will come in the long term.

I bid good day to you sir!

good luck with your 10 year plan - meanwhile "over here" PREMIERS!!

 

[The.X.Factor9]

going to get ugly

:lol: @ Manly

The manly board are making the Tigpies board look like pure professionals.

These.

 

[dogslife]

Nah, not at all. We've just won 2 premierships in the last 4 years. Noone expects dominance to last in the modern game. I think it's funny that Bulldogs fans think they've just bought themselves a premiership. They still have a below average squad that needs to be cleaned up over the next few years yet they're expecting success immediately. I believe that Toovey will be a good coach and have said before that if Foran (or anyone else for that matter) wants to go then they should put their hand up and be shown the door. Look what happened when the Roosters tried to buy a premiership with the bulldogs' squad. The problem that they'll have at the dogs is that De$ wants to run the place but Greenberg will take control.

You seem butthurt

 

[BunniesMan]

In that statement Des says when he couldn't get a deal for 2013 and 2014 with Manly he asked for a release from 2012 and they wouldn't give it to him.

That board of f**kwits has brought this on themselves and are going to get everything they deserve. Hope he does sue them, gets every cent of his 2012 salary and then goes and works at the Doggies in 2012 anyway. Hope they lose Foran and DCE too.

 

[ManlyMania]

You seem butthurt

Shh - PREMIERS!!

 

[The.X.Factor9]

good luck with your 10 year plan - meanwhile "over here" PREMIERS!!

Congratulations.

But next time don't make things up with which you know nothing about.

 

[bluey]

Reading beween the lines manly wanted a out and have found one, gotta feel for Dessie and the players caught up in this.

 

[firechild]

At various times every club shows how incompetent their board is. It is Manly's turn now. It wasn't long ago that Bulldogs fans were calling for heads to roll. Parramatta is a shambles but noone cares because they were failures in season 2011. Penrith and the Tigers are no better. The problem is, everyone associated with the game wants more money yet there is no more money to be had.

 

[firechild]

In that statement Des says when he couldn't get a deal for 2013 and 2014 with Manly he asked for a release from 2012 and they wouldn't give it to him.

That board of f**kwits has brought this on themselves and are going to get everything they deserve. Hope he does sue them, gets every cent of his 2012 salary and then goes and works at the Doggies in 2012 anyway. Hope they lose Foran an DCE too.

So, you want us to lose 2 key players so that we'll only be about 3 or 4 places above the rabbits by the end of the season?

DCE has no get out clause and will be at Manly for at least 2 more years. Foran is also contracted for 2 more years but has a get out clause which will hinge on the breach of contract decision.

Still, Manly has won 8 premierships since Souths' last GF appearance. If I were you, I wouldn't be making too much noise.

 

[firechild]

Reading beween the lines manly wanted a out and have found one, gotta feel for Dessie and the players caught up in this.

Don't forget all the Bulldogs' staff that are going to get shafted.

 

[ManlyMania]

At various times every club shows how incompetent their board is. It is Manly's turn now. It wasn't long ago that Bulldogs fans were calling for heads to roll. Parramatta is a shambles but noone cares because they were failures in season 2011. Penrith and the Tigers are no better. The problem is, everyone associated with the game wants more money yet there is no more money to be had.

On a serious note - the internal goings on have to be sorted this offseason - cant believe the penns have only 2 votes on the board......imagine any other business where the bloke that puts in most money doesnt get the most say? - they did do the right thing today tho.

 

[The.X.Factor9]

Don't forget all the Bulldogs' staff that are going to get shafted.

:lol:

#Youknownothingaboutourclub.

You can't handle that your club f**ked up and now you're in:

 

[firechild]

:lol:

#Youknownothingaboutourclub.

You can't handle that your club f**ked up and now you're in:

Denial is when you don't accept the facts. I know that the Manly board is dysfunctional so no, I'm not in denial. All you (or I for that matter) know about what is going on with the Manly board is through the media. Largely that same media that takes every opportunity to deathride the Manly club. Slothfield, Ritchie and co can not be trusted, especially when it comes to Manly matters. So you have as much idea about manly as I do about the dogs. Difference is, I know that with the Manly staff going to the dogs, there are going to be more people than there are positions. That means soe people have to go, whether they like it or not.