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Mighty pennies v the tigpies

franklin2323

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The 18th man is playing all the time though

How many times have we used our 18th man this year? Across the comp I have 5 times 18th man on in 72 games.

Never more than 20 mins. Very low odds that the 18th isn't going to used.

Hell they don't even get paid their Origin appearance money. So either pick them from a side with the bye or let them leave camp for the weekend and play for their club
 

franklin2323

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Honestly there's a genuine chance Api can get a run. Could easily see Teddy getting taken out with an illegal shot, activating Api. Forcing Wighton to centre, Turbo to fullback and Api on the bench.

That very example is why I doubt Api will even be 18. What are you going to do with 2 hookers in the squad? Atleast Graham is useful for outside back coverage
 

Kilkenny

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How many times have we used our 18th man this year? Across the comp I have 5 times 18th man on in 72 games.

Never more than 20 mins. Very low odds that the 18th isn't going to used.

Hell they don't even get paid their Origin appearance money. So either pick them from a side with the bye or let them leave camp for the weekend and play for their club

Is that confirmed. The 18th man doesn’t get the $30K pay check? That can’t be right. Surely you go into camp, miss your club game, do everything required and you don’t get paid if you don’t make it onto the field. Surely not.
 

Kilkenny

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I’d go this team:

1.Edwards
2.Jennings
3.Critta
4.Momo
5.Staines
6.May
7.Burto
8.Spencer
9.Api
10.Fish(C)
11.Kiks
12.Soro
13.Hopgood

14.Kenny
15.Lindsay Smith
15.Tago
16.Einsenhuth

I think you are really close to the mark depending on the fitness of Edwards and Hopgood.

Obviously Kenny will take APIs spot so someone else needs to come in.

I tend to think perhaps Tyrone May May play in the 13 and perhaps Jaemon Salmon in the six. Hopgood off the bench, if fit.

Personally, I would bring in Brent Naden to be in the 17 somewhere he is simply to good a player to leave out in these difficult circumstances.

I know he is on the outer and leaving but he is quality and proved it during his time in first grade other than being inexplicably dropped for the GF last season.

He has a point to prove unleash him against the Tigers this Friday night.
 

age.s

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I think you are really close to the mark depending on the fitness of Edwards and Hopgood.

Obviously Kenny will take APIs spot so someone else needs to come in.

I tend to think perhaps Tyrone May May play in the 13 and perhaps Jaemon Salmon in the six. Hopgood off the bench, if fit.

Personally, I would bring in Brent Naden to be in the 17 somewhere he is simply to good a player to leave out in these difficult circumstances.

I know he is on the outer and leaving but he is quality and proved it during his time in first grade other than being inexplicably dropped for the GF last season.

He has a point to prove unleash him against the Tigers this Friday night.

I'm not sure I'd say it was "inexplicable" why Naden was left out of the GF squad.

Anyway I agree with most of this. Nadens in the shop window atm, has a point to prove and would leave nothing on the field. If we can find a way to fit him in I'd love to see it.
 

Smug Panther

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The whole comp should stop for a month for Origin and internationals between the other nations. It's very simple stuff
 

Kilkenny

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I'm not sure I'd say it was "inexplicable" why Naden was left out of the GF squad.

Anyway I agree with most of this. Nadens in the shop window atm, has a point to prove and would leave nothing on the field. If we can find a way to fit him in I'd love to see it.

Naden played a huge part in our amazing season getting us to the play offs.

On the back of some poor defensive reads against the Roosters in the finals coach Cleary shafted Naden and brought in Tyrone May.

It’s history now and subject to much debate but in my opinion, my opinion only, it was a mistake and it cost us. Ivan should have stuck solid with Brent.

Brent stuffed up big time which doesn’t need any further discussion.

Despite Ivan suggesting otherwise it appears apparent Brent is unlikely to figure in our 17 regardless of the circumstances.
 

age.s

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Naden played a huge part in our amazing season getting us to the play offs.

On the back of some poor defensive reads against the Roosters in the finals coach Cleary shafted Naden and brought in Tyrone May.

It’s history now and subject to much debate but in my opinion, my opinion only, it was a mistake and it cost us. Ivan should have stuck solid with Brent.

Brent stuffed up big time which doesn’t need any further discussion.

Despite Ivan suggesting otherwise it appears apparent Brent is unlikely to figure in our 17 regardless of the circumstances.

It was confirmed that it wasn't about his performance on field wasn't it? A bit too much fun on gf eve and all that?
 
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By Lucy, i hope you dont mean BJ with his off the ball edwards coathangers again

Nope.

But Edwards got up!

Then he refused to snitch.

He gave evidence in bjs favour at the judiciary.

And after the match, he said of the incident “ that’s footy”

And I was deeply moved by his humanity and courage.

Nothing is too good for Dylan Edwards. He’s a f**king champion.

I could get bashed for saying that on wt forum, so be it.
 

Kilkenny

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It was confirmed that it wasn't about his performance on field wasn't it? A bit too much fun on gf eve and all that?

I have no idea whether Ivan or anyone else were aware about what happened around his partaking off illegal drugs.

I don’t condone the use of so called recreational drugs, I abhor there use, given the fact they are distributed by organised crime, and the associated violence attached to drugs generally.

Brent stuffed up, he only has himself to blame for that, but he is still part of our squad and given we have to pick a side against the West’s Tigers this week I would think he would be amongst our best 17 players available.
 

mxlegend99

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That very example is why I doubt Api will even be 18. What are you going to do with 2 hookers in the squad? Atleast Graham is useful for outside back coverage
Wighton is the outside back cover. There's no hooker cover though so Api makes sense.

Why would you have a back on the bench and as 18th man? That's putting all eggs in the backs getting injured basket. If Cook was knocked out from an illegal tackle you then have 2 backs and no hooker for cover

Cam Murray could push out to centre should we lose two backs. But realistically in that scenario we're pretty screwed
 

franklin2323

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Wighton is the outside back cover. There's no hooker cover though so Api makes sense.

Why would you have a back on the bench and as 18th man? That's putting all eggs in the backs getting injured basket. If Cook was knocked out from an illegal tackle you then have 2 backs and no hooker for cover

Cam Murray could push out to centre should we lose two backs. But realistically in that scenario we're pretty screwed

Teams lose when backs go out of the game. You have forwards on the bench that can play longer. Most sides are running with an outside back

If a winger goes down you need to move a couple of guys to cover. Either way it should be someone that can play several positions
 

MugaB

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Wighton is the outside back cover. There's no hooker cover though so Api makes sense.

Why would you have a back on the bench and as 18th man? That's putting all eggs in the backs getting injured basket. If Cook was knocked out from an illegal tackle you then have 2 backs and no hooker for cover

Cam Murray could push out to centre should we lose two backs. But realistically in that scenario we're pretty screwed
Luai can cover hooker, but api is a better option coz he can make 50 tackles in the middle, im actually surprised he wasn't included on the bench, i get that wighton is nessesary for covering backs, but do we need 3 middles on the bench, martin can cover middle, so, haas, saifiti and paulo is overkill, only need 2 of them.
Personally i would have had Finucane and api instead of haas and saifiti.
I don't think they are worthy of a recall after last year nor does their club form reflect it
 
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WestyLife

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Teams lose when backs go out of the game. You have forwards on the bench that can play longer. Most sides are running with an outside back

If a winger goes down you need to move a couple of guys to cover. Either way it should be someone that can play several positions

Wighton is at 14 and can play

Halves
Centre
Fullback
Lock (if super desperate)

Turbo Centre, Wing, Fullback

We then have Martin who can play middle and edge.

Yeo middle and edge.

Murray middle and edge

Jurbo middle edge

Haas, Saifiti prop

Api makes perfect sense as 18th man.
 

franklin2323

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Is that confirmed. The 18th man doesn’t get the $30K pay check? That can’t be right. Surely you go into camp, miss your club game, do everything required and you don’t get paid if you don’t make it onto the field. Surely not.

From the paper last week
 

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franklin2323

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Wighton is at 14 and can play

Halves
Centre
Fullback
Lock (if super desperate)

Turbo Centre, Wing, Fullback

We then have Martin who can play middle and edge.

Yeo middle and edge.

Murray middle and edge

Jurbo middle edge

Haas, Saifiti prop

Api makes perfect sense as 18th man.

So where does Api play given Cook plays 80?
 

MugaB

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So where does Api play given Cook plays 80?
In at lock while yeo shifts to edge or prop, as long as they are all defending in the middle we don't need to worry about attack, i feel they picked 2 props on the bench just coz thats the thing to do, its a waste.
The game now is way too fast to be carrying 2 bench props, 1 dale Finucane, 1 api korisau would have shit all over haas, and saifiti
 

franklin2323

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In at lock while yeo shifts to edge or prop, as long as they are all defending in the middle we don't need to worry about attack, i feel they picked 2 props on the bench just coz thats the thing to do, its a waste.
The game now is way too fast to be carrying 2 bench props, 1 dale Finucane, 1 api korisau would have shit all over haas, and saifiti

I am sure Tino will love Api in the middle defending next to Cook. With the small Luai and Cam Murray on the left.

Just dumb but that is a Freddy team for you
 

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