I reckon this is the best terminology - edge forward and tight forward.
Can we get this nomenclature enshrined in the forum rules so f**ken nitwits like Springs don't keep using out-dated terms like 'lock' and 'second-row'?
Maybe then the game's administration will catch up to the modern day and we won't have to go through the embarassing situation where last year's Dally M Lock and Second-Row awards were both won by edge forwards.
Gallen played tight forward at the Sharks in 2010 but when Jeremy Smith arrived there last year Gallen shifted to the left edge.
It's already been changed mate. Get on board.
Mateo never wore number 13 last year because that number belongs to the Warriors' tight forward Michael Luck. Mateo plays on the left edge as has already been explained to you.
No when he played 6 he played almost exactly like a left-hand edge forward. The only difference was they swap in attack and defence - so the edge forward attacks three in and defends four in, whereas the 'five-eighth' (in that structure at least) attacks four in and defends three in.
In either case these two have the left centre and winger outside them. Or do you think we still play with inside and outside centres?
Mate, nobody "just holds" anywhere. Everyone is expected to work hard off the ball, in both attack and defence. But the game is so fast and the ball movement so good in first grade that Hindy won't be just chasing the ball around the field. He might drift toward the ball as he tracks back with the ref but that is mostly to cover an overlap or a bust. And he will always try to get back into the middle where most of the tackles are to be made.
You watch whenever we start a new defensive set (ie. after an penalty/error or kickoff) - Hindmarsh will be standing in the middle group of four players (with the props and hooker).
Because it's not exactly like lock. 'Lock' refers firstly to a position in the scrum. After that it means different things to different people (cover defender, edge runner, second five-eighth, etc).
I'm sorry the game has left you behind but it's not too late to catch up. We're here to help you.
Agreed. But in attack he's three in from the sideline, and this is definitely the edge. It sure as shit isn't the middle of the field (I nearly called it midfield but I thought you might f**king splinter.)
These days there are only six forwards, but even a distinction like 'forwards' and 'backs' is problematic. You're right that edge forwards defend inside all of the 'backs' but they attack outside the halves - Souths had an option last year that saw Dave Taylor attacking outside both Sutton and Inglis, while defending on their inside.
Instead of being frightened of these changes you should embrace innovation. It is very exciting.
I don't think he's ready for it.
I'll let you work that one out but here's a hint: where do most line breaks (the 'LB' in 'LBA') occur? The middle or the edges?
What the f**k is wrong with you? Just because I want to use the proper terms second row and lock I'm an outdated f**king nitwit? Oh that's funny, everywhere I look everyone else is still using second row and lock. WOW. Even the NRL. f**k the ESL are using Loose Forward how f**king dumb are they ay?!
It's amazing at my club when they read out the names they say 'second rowers - you and you and lock - you'. But don't worry, I'm sure you just think that we're banjo playing country hicks that play on dirt paddocks while you coach the Australian team. Luckily our coach has a big face so we're pretty good.
After a penalty, players will usually just run back into the line from wherever they are standing to get ready for the quick tap/restart. From an error, well the forwards are usually in the scrum so you're wrong there, but I guess he is with the props on that occasion. From a kickoff, the wings, centres and halves will be on their side of the field so the forwards will be :shock: in the MIDDLE! WOW.
I notice you use Dave Taylor as an example. Congratulations he usually stood inside the winger when playing prop as well. He is actually encouraged by others to run in the middle as well because he can cause a lot of damage with his offloads.
And no, we can't have this terminlogy enshrined because it's useless. I guess everyone else will have to stay outdated using lock and 2nd row while PouPou and junior rep coaches can go be innovative.
And Hindmarsh follows the play around, he always has. That's why he makes so many tackles. He is rarely more than 2 players away from the play the ball.
And every postion refers to where they stand at the scrum. Except wingers really. And what innovation? It's hardly innovation all you're doing is making up silly terms for old positions. Yes a lock can be a central forward or edge forward but who cares? He can also be a cover defender or second five-eighth. So calling backrowers definite edge and tight forwards would be as silly as making up a 'five-eighth 2' for Fittler when he played 13.
And Gallen was barely an edge forward. No one makes that amount of tackles and metres only playing on the edge. Otherwise he would have stats like Ben Creagh.
