New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

[Pippen94]

He’s saying broadcasters don’t want a team in Perth

he should’ve added they do want another nz team (sky does) so that’s where it should go

They actually want Brisbane content

 

[Wb1234]

ARL, Sky New Zealand agree to long-term TV deal

State of Origin fixtures and a selection of premium NRL matches be available on free-to-air TV in New Zealand for the first time as a part of a new broadcast rights deal between the ARL Commission and Sky New Zealand.

www.nrl.com

“State of Origin fixtures and a selection of premium NRL matches will be available on free-to-air TV in New Zealand for the first time in a new broadcast rights deal between the ARL Commission and Sky New Zealand.”

I would imagine the tv ratings for origin will be massive

 

[Wb1234]

They actually want Brisbane content

Yes Aussie tv companies

but realistically another brisbane side has to wait five years for the dolphins to lay down strong nrl roots

 

[Pippen94]

English?

If you are talking about the Dolphins than that has been settled and not many people would have argued that the decision to go for another Brisbane side was a bad one (people might split hairs on the choice of the team but not the idea)

We’re talking about the next team

Have the other Brisbane bids disbanded & been told they'll never get in?! Pretty sure NRL told them to keep going for next round of expansion

 

[Wb1234]

ARL, Sky New Zealand agree to long-term TV deal

State of Origin fixtures and a selection of premium NRL matches be available on free-to-air TV in New Zealand for the first time as a part of a new broadcast rights deal between the ARL Commission and Sky New Zealand.

www.nrl.com

“State of Origin fixtures and a selection of premium NRL matches will be available on free-to-air TV in New Zealand for the first time in a new broadcast rights deal between the ARL Commission and Sky New Zealand.”

I would imagine the tv ratings for origin will be massive

Sky New Zealand Chief Executive Sophie Moloney said the partnership was more than a broadcast deal.

"Through our partnership we have committed to working even more closely with NRL and NZRL to grow the game of Rugby League in New Zealand, like the roadshow we have on this weekend in Christchurch with the Warriors and NZRL," she said.


hmm adding another nz nrl side would grow the game too

 

[Pippen94]

That’s probably the weakest argument you could come up with. It’s not like a lot of teams are playing in world class state of the art venues.

It's not my argument you just can't read

 

[Te Kaha]

Stuff

i.stuff.co.nz

because rugby league gets excellent ratings in nz and more so this year with the coverage on fta

at times it rivals the all blacks

sky nz don’t pay 38 million dollars a year for one nz team out of charity

the nrl ratings for Perth have always been poor

foxtel has no interest in a Perth team when they already have afl

That's just a blatant lie you Wally.

The last time the Warriors made a semi final they only got 500 odd thousand. That rivals the LOWEST All Blacks game.

The 750K figure is shared between 3 Games, with no indication that the Warriors were anywhere near the others.

 

[Ride the Lion to Zion]

Nrl beat afl by 23 million viewers last year (excluding nz ratings)

In the 2022 season aggregate figure, what constitutes a "viewer"?

He had put up a rather large post (I can’t be bothered finding it but somebody on this forum might) detailing the growth in ratings.

From what I recall the "growth" was in streaming.

 

[Te Kaha]

ARL, Sky New Zealand agree to long-term TV deal

State of Origin fixtures and a selection of premium NRL matches be available on free-to-air TV in New Zealand for the first time as a part of a new broadcast rights deal between the ARL Commission and Sky New Zealand.

www.nrl.com

“State of Origin fixtures and a selection of premium NRL matches will be available on free-to-air TV in New Zealand for the first time in a new broadcast rights deal between the ARL Commission and Sky New Zealand.”

I would imagine the tv ratings for origin will be massive

Shit you talk bullshit Wally. They rated lower than the average Warriors game. Only the first one was on free to air.

Sky New Zealand Chief Executive Sophie Moloney said the partnership was more than a broadcast deal.

"Through our partnership we have committed to working even more closely with NRL and NZRL to grow the game of Rugby League in New Zealand, like the roadshow we have on this weekend in Christchurch with the Warriors and NZRL," she said.


hmm adding another nz nrl side would grow the game too

And SKy wont pay for it. They no longer have competition.

And despite your lies, there are not enough juniors or pathways. A second team will do very little to help that.

 

[Wb1234]

In the 2022 season aggregate figure, what constitutes a "viewer"?


From what I recall the "growth" was in streaming.

Stats are complied by sampling just like they do in England for barb

it’s the basis of billion dollar decisions

the nrl average viewer per game is significantly higher than afl

indeed when they combined aggregate crowds and aggregate tv viewers league was still way out in front

 

[Wb1234]

In the 2022 season aggregate figure, what constitutes a "viewer"?


From what I recall the "growth" was in streaming.

What is Australia’s most popular sport? – The Roar

 

[Ride the Lion to Zion]

Stats are complied by sampling just like they do in England for barb

I know that. What I'm getting at is that in the age of streaming what counts as a viewer is not what would have counted as a viewer 10 years ago.

Claims of growth are only credible if the figures are like-for-like.

 

[Canard]

ARL, Sky New Zealand agree to long-term TV deal

State of Origin fixtures and a selection of premium NRL matches be available on free-to-air TV in New Zealand for the first time as a part of a new broadcast rights deal between the ARL Commission and Sky New Zealand.

www.nrl.com

“State of Origin fixtures and a selection of premium NRL matches will be available on free-to-air TV in New Zealand for the first time in a new broadcast rights deal between the ARL Commission and Sky New Zealand.”

I would imagine the tv ratings for origin will be massive

Given the games are not in NZ prime time, and often start as late as 10.15pm NZ time, I would be interested to know what they rate.

 

[Colk]

It's not my argument you just can't read

Pot kettle black. I was agreeing with you. I know it’s not often but Jesus.

 

[Gobsmacked]

Shit you talk bullshit Wally. They rated lower than the average Warriors game. Only the first one was on free to air.



And SKy wont pay for it. They no longer have competition.

And despite your lies, there are not enough juniors or pathways. A second team will do very little to help that.

You know Sky having no competition means that they can and are ..charging more for their services....
Which actually means they have more they can afford to spend.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Have the other Brisbane bids disbanded & been told they'll never get in?! Pretty sure NRL told them to keep going for next round of expansion

Abdo said the Firehawks and Jets are still a chance of getting the 18th licence.

 

[Wb1234]

I know that. What I'm getting at is that in the age of streaming what counts as a viewer is not what would have counted as a viewer 10 years ago.

Claims of growth are only credible if the figures are like-for-like.

Pretty sure foxtel know how to count the numbers of their viewers on kayo

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

That's irrelevant. Viable Perth & Adelaide would be good for game

What would a Perth-based team need to bring to the table to be viable?

If we're going by the Gemba Report then they would need to generate $8-10 million from sponsorship, corporate hospitality, ticketing and membership.

Do you think the club can generate that sort of revenue?

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

You know Sky having no competition means that they can and are ..charging more for their services....
Which actually means they have more they can afford to spend.

Just because they charge more doesn't mean they'll spend it on the NRL. They'll pay no more than the bare minimum because there's no competition.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Sydney teams are viable though at this point in time. Now you might disagree with the reasons or methods in which they are viable but that is a conflation of a moral argument with a factual one.

Now if that changes that changes (leagues clubs or pokies go under for example) and the market will dictate your point. At that point a Sydney team will die, you will be vindicated and a team outside of Sydney will likely replace them

However I don’t see the point in preemptively killing teams because you don’t like pokies funding clubs.

That's a fair point.

My stance is our game is holding itself back by having more than 50% of its team in the one market. We'll be lucky to get an 18th team within the next 5 years. After that we probably won't get any more teams.

I do think it's inevitable that pokies will be taxed more heavily. Limitations will be placed on how often people can play them. There will be a limit to how many machines can be held in a licenced venue. When this happens some Sydney clubs will be in major trouble. I wouldn't be surprised if the the reason the clubs are demanding $5m on top of the salary cap is because they can see the writing on the wall.