New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

[Te Kaha]

I don’t think what other bidders think matters at all, what are they going to do about it bar complain? Fact is Christchurch is getting a new state of the art stadium. Any complaint about using the temporary one for a year or two would be ignored.
I don’t really see an 18th team coming in before 2026 anyway.

That just leaves the lack of juniors and massive underinvestment in the game here.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

That just leaves the lack of juniors and massive underinvestment in the game here.

I agree on both those points. Well the first isn’t so much lack of actual juniors as lack of junior development. We’ve always had enough kids but turning them into footballers is a different story. And that takes money.

 

[Pneuma]

The fact that you're on a mission to abolish Sydney clubs, destroy people Rugby League clubs, destroy hundreds of thousands of fans passion and love , their past times where they takes their families and cheer on with their sons and daughters. Destroy over a hundred years of history, great players and stories throughout those years and disregard their contribution.

You want the destruction of our game, our fans and our history!
You are a vile piece of shit.
You are anti Rugby League.
I'll never again read one of your stupid posts.

He’s just an idiot. But Perth red likes him

 

[Ride the Lion to Zion]

You want the destruction of our game, our fans and our history!
You are a vile piece of shit.
You are anti Rugby League.
I'll never again read one of your stupid posts.

Go on now go, walk out the door, just turn around now, 'cause you're not welcome anymore.

 

[Pneuma]

Go on now go, walk out the door, just turn around now, 'cause you're not welcome anymore.

The donk and Perth red elicit these responses due to their endless negative agendas

 

[Te Kaha]

I agree on both those points. Well the first isn’t so much lack of actual juniors as lack of junior development. We’ve always had enough kids but turning them into footballers is a different story. And that takes money.

Not so much anymore, Contact team sports are all in a massive decline. Something needs to be done to get kids playing. Chucking a team in a city wont be nearly enough.

 

[Gobsmacked]

So a company, due to having no competition, will spend more on content instead of giving the extra profit to shareholders???? Just how badly did you fail economics? and reality...



How will the other bidders react to a bid being accepted when one of the criteria, an adequate stadium, isn't met when they meet all of theirs?
I thought the Wellington problem was going to be solved when the Phoenix looked like going under. Unfortunately they are well set and funded now.

By your advanced economic knowledge. When there's a property for sale and there's only 1 bidding, the property ( every property with 1 bidding) sells for $1.
Genius! Thanks for enlightening me!

Back in reality now. They simply don't sell until fair value is achieved.

Rugby league has about 1 million fans across NZ . Maybe half of those have a subscription, so the value of the content lays in those subscriptions. Currently 30 million is deemed profitable on that content and subscribers.
If the content is increased and the relevant content is effectively doubled, those subscriptions attributed to that content are increased in both price and volume. The fair value and purchase price that is profitable is substantially increased. At which point the negotiation of said content is is worth more.
And just like any property at auction , there's an understanding of this value before the auction and before the sale.
Both the NRL and Sky will know exactly what the rights are worth and those negotiations will be based on that.
A new team in NZ makes it worth more to Sky and the NRL knows that.

Sky will pay up to 20 million more with the inclusion of a second NZ team.
That's exactly why they're looking at NZ.

 

[Wb1234]

When warriors games can get 10 percent of the entire kiwi population watching (according to one of the kiwi posters) then it’s clear a second nz nrl side would be valuable to sky nz

 

[Te Kaha]

By your advanced economic knowledge. When there's a property for sale and there's only 1 bidding, the property ( every property with 1 bidding) sells for $1.
Genius! Thanks for enlightening me!

Back in reality now. They simply don't sell until fair value is achieved.

Rugby league has about 1 million fans across NZ . Maybe half of those have a subscription, so the value of the content lays in those subscriptions. Currently 30 million is deemed profitable on that content and subscribers.
If the content is increased and the relevant content is effectively doubled, those subscriptions attributed to that content are increased in both price and volume. The fair value and purchase price that is profitable is substantially increased. At which point the negotiation of said content is is worth more.
And just like any property at auction , there's an understanding of this value before the auction and before the sale.
Both the NRL and Sky will know exactly what the rights are worth and those negotiations will be based on that.
A new team in NZ makes it worth more to Sky and the NRL knows that.

Sky will pay up to 20 million more with the inclusion of a second NZ team.
That's exactly why they're looking at NZ.

Se you are completely making things up now. Your understanding of reality is very limited.

Your claim about a 1 million fans and half having subscriptions is pure fantasy. You have no basis to make that claim. Most of that "1 million" would be sports fans not League fans.

And SKY is at saturation point for sports fans. WIth SkySportNow involved they don't even get package substrictions, just sport.

There is no way the NRL will not take Sky's bid, which going on the ALL previous bids is about 20 million, when there isn't another bidder. League simply does not rate well enough for either Free to air company to bid anywhere near that figure. WHat is the NRL going to do? turn down 20 million a year out of spite? Of course not. Your insane to think they will

To put it into perspective, The Warriors have averaged 120K or game upto 250 for non final games without a competing game at the same time. ALL other NRL games average 50-70K. You think a new team will change that? of course not, at best you get 120k-250K as long as there isn't a Rugby match on at the same time.

Sky won't pay anything more than they have to. Which wont be much.

 

[Wb1234]

I'm sure of that too. And the numbers for streaming on Kayo are rising.

That does not mean that the grand total of "ratings" is growing, as was claimed.

I think ratings overall have increased

the loss of viewers on fta has been paired with massive increase on pay tv

on foxtel now you will get we many viewers as on channel nine

 

[Te Kaha]

When warriors games can get 10 percent of the entire kiwi population watching (according to one of the kiwi posters) then it’s clear a second nz nrl side would be valuable to sky nz

Hey Wally, ONLY finals games get near that amount. not regular season games.

 

[Gobsmacked]

Se you are completely making things up now. Your understanding of reality is very limited.

Your claim about a 1 million fans and half having subscriptions is pure fantasy. You have no basis to make that claim. Most of that "1 million" would be sports fans not League fans.

And SKY is at saturation point for sports fans. WIth SkySportNow involved they don't even get package substrictions, just sport.

There is no way the NRL will not take Sky's bid, which going on the ALL previous bids is about 20 million, when there isn't another bidder. League simply does not rate well enough for either Free to air company to bid anywhere near that figure. WHat is the NRL going to do? turn down 20 million a year out of spite? Of course not. Your insane to think they will

To put it into perspective, The Warriors have averaged 120K or game upto 250 for non final games without a competing game at the same time. ALL other NRL games average 50-70K. You think a new team will change that? of course not, at best you get 120k-250K as long as there isn't a Rugby match on at the same time.

Sky won't pay anything more than they have to. Which wont be much.

There won't be a Rugby match on ,Super rugby is finished.

 

[Te Kaha]

There won't be a Rugby match on ,Super rugby is finished.

See you are making shit up again. First game is on in less than two weeks.

Serious question, are you actually mentally challenged? or do you just like making stuff up?

 

[Wb1234]

There won't be a Rugby match on ,Super rugby is finished.

How many times are you going to school him before he get it

you are doing a good job tbf

 

[Gobsmacked]

See you are making shit up again. First game is on in less than two weeks.

Serious question, are you actually mentally geniused? or do you just like making stuff up?

The writings on the wall mate. Nobody in Australia is interested and nobody wants to watch pacifika nations.
Prepare for record low attendance and ratings..

 

[Wb1234]

The writings on the wall mate. Nobody in Australia is interested and nobody wants to watch pacifika nations.
Prepare for record low attendance and ratings..

Ouch !

 

[Gobsmacked]

A small country like NZ has an opportunity to be part something bigger and better!

 

[Wb1234]

A small country like NZ has an opportunity to be part something bigger and better!

A small country with a few sad people there who are even smaller minded lmao

you’ve got 12 million as the rugby league heartlands in Australia vs 4.5 million as the union heartland in nz

 

[Te Kaha]

The writings on the wall mate. Nobody in Australia is interested and nobody wants to watch pacifika nations.
Prepare for record low attendance and ratings..

the "writing is on the wall" is one that seems to be thrown around by you and your wally mate. But there are still games played, Australia even has a Lions tour and world cup in the next few years. So your claim it is over is just as stupid as the rest of your claims.

 

[Te Kaha]

A small country with people there who are even smaller minded lmao

you’ve got 12 million as the rugby league heartlands in Australia vs 4.5 million as the union heartland in nz

what is the biggest viewership figure ever for a game? Four million? Seems that Australias "heartland" doesn't care that much for League. a third of the "heartland" population and a fifth of the total population is the most that's ever watched a game..