New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

[Gobsmacked]

See you are making shit up again. First game is on in less than two weeks.

Serious question, are you actually mentally geniused? or do you just like making stuff up?

I think I know what's happening here. Slowly your buddies are starting to watch less Union and more League. I guess you're frustrated because you're the last holdout. Everything they tell you about it being faster and better and better comp are true but you're fighting! Trying to resist and stay loyal.. but you don't have to.. just come over and see the light.
Your life will be much better.

 

[Te Kaha]

I think I know what's happening here. Slowly your buddies are starting to watch less Union and more League. I guess you're frustrated because you're the last holdout. Everything they tell you about it being faster and better and better comp are true but you're fighting! Trying to resist and stay loyal.. but you don't have to.. just come over and see the light.
Your life will be much better.

Then why in NZ are ratings for league going down? Why are player numbers going down? Why is general interest in League going down? All questions you will be unable and unwilling to answer.

 

[Gobsmacked]

When you see the pain that Te kahs in really highlights the life of a Union fan. There's a much better version of the sport! A perfectly prepared steak! But no, yell at everyone and demand they eat their beans.
What a horrible existence.

 

[Gobsmacked]

Then why in NZ are ratings for league going down? Why are player numbers going down? Why is general interest in League going down? All questions you will be unable and unwilling to answer.

They just payed a record amount for that privilege..
30 million

 

[Te Kaha]

When you see the pain that Te kahs in really highlights the life of a Union fan. There's a much better version of the sport! A perfectly prepared steak! But no, yell at everyone and demand they eat their beans.
What a horrible existence.

I knew you couldn't and wouldn't answer the questions. Because deep down you know I'm right.

They just payed a record amount for that privilege..
30 million

To keep the monopoly. Nothing more. Sky lose money on League.

 

[Colk]

A 20-team comp with no system of promotion/relegation carries significant risk.

The EPL has 20 teams. The fans of many of those know full well before a ball is kicked that they won't be anywhere near the top of the table. Finishing in 17th (i.e. just above the relegation zone) represents a successful season. All their games are important. There's consequently huge interest and the stadia are packed out.

Australian RL media and fans have an entirely different value system to judge whether a game is meaningful. Over the course of a season, a 20 team comp will provide fewer games which meet the criteria for meaningful than a 16 team comp. This will have implications for underperforming clubs and NRL popularity overall.

Aussie fans of any sport do not think they've had a good year when their team is 13th on the ladder of a 16 team comp. They will be even more unhappy, and potentially disengaged, if their team is 17th in a 20-team comp. And the media will hammer home the miserable message. All this will mean more NRL fans with a face like Phil Gould.

That’s one of the weirdest arguments I have seen against expanding a competition. By that logic, we should reduce the competition because that would mean less fans who are disgruntled.

In any case, I am not suggesting that you increase the competition immediately. You do it steadily on the back of increased TV deals. NRL and fumbleball are essentially in dominant positions now, control the market and could do whatever they want (within a certain amount of reason). A-League and Union are niche sports now in the Australian market and probably only average 50k max per game.

 

[Wb1234]

When you see the pain that Te kahs in really highlights the life of a Union fan. There's a much better version of the sport! A perfectly prepared steak! But no, yell at everyone and demand they eat their beans.
What a horrible existence.

Imagine thousands of posts about a sport he doesn’t even like

 

[Wb1234]

That’s one of the weirdest arguments I have seen against expanding a competition. By that logic, we should reduce the competition because that would mean less fans who are disgruntled.

In any case, I am not suggesting that you increase the competition immediately. You do it steadily on the back of increased TV deals. NRL and fumbleball are essentially in dominant positions now, control the market and could do whatever they want (within a certain amount of reason). A-League and Union are niche sports now in the Australian market and probably only average 50k max per game.

Pommie

these are the guys who killed off Toronto to promote Leigh

 

[Colk]

They just payed a record amount for that privilege..
30 million

Because they had competition for the rights at that point. They no longer have that competition now. This is not that hard to understand

 

[Te Kaha]

Imagine thousands of posts about a sport he doesn’t even like

See, there you go wally, making shit up again.

 

[Te Kaha]

Because they had competition for the rights at that point. They no longer have that competition now. This is not that hard to understand

Apparently it is for him and the wally.

 

[Wb1234]

Because they had competition for the rights at that point. They no longer have that competition now. This is not that hard to understand

Because they see value in rugby league and make a lot of money off it as one of the most watched sports on tv in nz

shocking they do that !

 

[Te Kaha]

Because they see value in rugby league and make a lot of money off it as one of the most watched sports on tv in nz

shocking they do that !

No it's not you wally. It's not even in the top five most watched sports in the country.

 

[Gobsmacked]

No it's not you wally. It's not even in the top five most watched sports in the country.

Super rugby is dying

More Opportunities For League In New Zealand.

We don`t get any ratings figures for League in NZ but came across these calamitous figures for NZ super rugby today. 2015 - 2019 average ~ 190k 2021 average 140k 2022 (so far) 103k The main reason given is that the public are sick of seeing the same 5 teams play each other over and over with this...

www.totalrl.com

 

[Wb1234]

Super rugby is dying

More Opportunities For League In New Zealand.

We don`t get any ratings figures for League in NZ but came across these calamitous figures for NZ super rugby today. 2015 - 2019 average ~ 190k 2021 average 140k 2022 (so far) 103k The main reason given is that the public are sick of seeing the same 5 teams play each other over and over with this...

www.totalrl.com

Hahhahhaha

Omg I never saw this

it’s even worse than I thought

it’s collapsing faster than I thought

 

[Colk]

Spending millions on gws makes sense cause eventually you hope to increase presence in top market. Is it worth propping up team in Perth which is far less lucrative in business but also junior development?!

I know that you are trying really hard but I wasn’t referring to fumbleball and GWS with that post. Last time I checked fumbleball are not a monopoly in any case

I was referring to this belief that Sky are going to pay more for a second team when they are a monopoly.

 

[Te Kaha]

Super rugby is dying

More Opportunities For League In New Zealand.

We don`t get any ratings figures for League in NZ but came across these calamitous figures for NZ super rugby today. 2015 - 2019 average ~ 190k 2021 average 140k 2022 (so far) 103k The main reason given is that the public are sick of seeing the same 5 teams play each other over and over with this...

www.totalrl.com

OMG an unsourced claim on a League site. Who would have thought. And they couldn't even find League rating... anywhere.

 

[Gobsmacked]

Hahhahhaha

Omg I never saw this

it’s even worse than I thought

it’s collapsing faster than I thought

The real trouble is that the demographic for Rugby in NZ are older. I read somewhere that the majority are pre 1975 and they are struggling to engage with younger generations.
The game is dying with old men like Te kah. No wonder he's upset.

 

[Gobsmacked]

OMG an unsourced claim on a League site. Who would have thought. And they couldn't even find League rating... anywhere.

 

[Wb1234]

The real trouble is that the demographic for Rugby in NZ are older. I read somewhere that the majority are pre 1975 and they are struggling to engage with younger generations.
The game is dying with old men like Te kah. No wonder he's upset.

To confirm your post

Super Rugby TV ratings drop ahead of Blues-Crusaders showdown

1News has sourced figures from Nielsen TAM which show declining primetime (7pm/7.30pm games) TV viewership for the competition, with the early rounds of 2022 averaging around 100,000 viewers.

www.1news.co.nz

Then there is this

Loose Pass: New Zealand rugby's fascinating fall from grace

In this week's Loose Pass, we will mostly be concerning ourselves with New Zealand, as the rest of the world looks on with fascination.

www.planetrugby.com

Teenage participation in union is down 17 percent

Loose Pass: New Zealand rugby's fascinating fall from grace

In this week's Loose Pass, we will mostly be concerning ourselves with New Zealand, as the rest of the world looks on with fascination.

www.planetrugby.com