New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

[SpaceMonkey]

Easy workaround is day games

warriors have shown Sunday midday gets good ratings in Australia and adds another unique timeslot

its funny some of these nz posters don’t know that nrl games are also played during the day

it’s like they have never watched the warriors in their life but still find time to post thousands of times on a rugby league forum

That gives you exactly one timeslot, and no FTA games. And I doubt Sunday midday games rate particularly well, can you provide evidence that they do? They’re useful because it gives you a way to run three Sunday timeslots, but that’s about it.
Anything after midday eastern time is starting to run into twilight game territory because of the time difference.

 

[Wb1234]

That gives you exactly one timeslot, and no FTA games. And I doubt Sunday midday games rate particularly well, can you provide evidence that they do? They’re useful because it gives you a way to run three Sunday timeslots, but that’s about it.
Anything after midday eastern time is starting to run into twilight game territory because of the time difference.

The average nrl game in Australia gets 600k viewers (approx) on fox

they are desperate for more content

and as a warriors fan I’m sure you will know many of their games are beamed into Australia In the Sunday midday slot

there aren’t many new unique tineslots left

Sunday midday Saturday 230 Sunday 630 and Monday 700 are the only ones available

so there is no issue at all from Australian tv networks if a wellington based team wants to play in the Saturday 230 or Sunday midday slot as the other slots are already covered elsewhere

 

[Te Kaha]

The average nrl game in Australia gets 600k viewers (approx) on fox

they are desperate for more content

and as a warriors fan I’m sure you will know many of their games are beamed into Australia In the Sunday midday slot

there aren’t many new unique tineslots left

Sunday midday Saturday 230 Sunday 630 and Monday 700 are the only ones available

so there is no issue at all from Australian tv networks if a wellington based team wants to play in the Saturday 230 or Sunday midday slot as the other slots are already covered elsewhere

Well done Wally, so after putting in timeslots that barely anyone watches in Aus it will also be the same in NZ. You really don't have a clue.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

What aload of bullshit there Wally. The Warriors games are worst rated in Australia. That has been shown time and time again in this thread, even by you! I know you are stupid, but come on you are better than that.

Even in preseason they rated lowest of the games.

I’d actually say that part of the reason the Warriors rate the lowest is timeslots- they constantly get Sunday midday and Saturday 5:30pm games which are the least favourable for pulling in TV numbers. But it’s still useful for the NRL because they need to fit all games in without overlap and it lines up with the time difference.

 

[Wb1234]

I’d actually say that part of the reason the Warriors rate the lowest is timeslots- they constantly get Sunday midday and Saturday 5:30pm games which are the least favourable for pulling in TV numbers. But it’s still useful for the NRL because they need to fit all games in without overlap and it lines up with the time difference.

Huh ?

you literally just agreed with my point after trying to disagree above

lol

 

[Te Kaha]

I’d actually say that part of the reason the Warriors rate the lowest is timeslots- they constantly get Sunday midday and Saturday 5:30pm games which are the least favourable for pulling in TV numbers. But it’s still useful for the NRL because they need to fit all games in without overlap and it lines up with the time difference.

Yep, so putting in a team that will rate just as badly, rather than another Aus team doesn't really make any sense.

 

[Colk]

It doesn't matter what ur point was. My point is more important & gets to heart of expansion issues

No, your point isn’t more important and it isn’t even relevant. It is just a slogan that you parrot endlessly and mindlessly, as one can see from this exchange

We get it: expansion to new areas is difficult. Some people think it’s worthwhile with a bit of effort whilst others like yourself clearly don’t. Play a new record mate: this one is tiresome, repetitive and stuck on a loop.

 

[Ride the Lion to Zion]

That’s one of the weirdest arguments I have seen against expanding a competition. By that logic, we should reduce the competition because that would mean less fans who are disgruntled.

Wasn't an argument against expanding the competition.

It was a suggestion that advocates of expansion should be conscious of all the ramifications.

Last year, if 15th played 16th in the NRL, both teams were keen to open up and play, ref let them get on with it, I would be happy with the outcome. Sadly, the overwhelming impression I get is that RL fans who just enjoy a good game of football are in a minority. The majority seem to need extra motivation to retain interest.

It's part of NRL media custom to write off a club's season when they can't make the finals. They talk down any club who lose more games than they win. They pretty well tell everyone not to bother attending or watching games which have no bearing on finals qualification.

A 20-team NRL would require some kind of cultural shift to be successful. Either moving to a conference structure or divisions with promotion/relegation. And if not that, then at least a change in media and fan attitudes. Less of the Phil Gould "winning is everything" mentality.

 

[Ride the Lion to Zion]

Pommie

these are the guys who killed off Toronto to promote Leigh

Looking forward to Toronto getting the 18th NRL licence.

While you're at it, why not chuck in a few relocations. Toronto Sharks, Toronto Sea-Eagles, Toronto Tigers...

Let's see some real expansion.

 

[Wb1234]

Looking forward to Toronto getting the 18th NRL licence.

While you're at it, why not chuck in a few relocations. Toronto Sharks, Toronto Sea-Eagles, Toronto Tigers...

Let's see some real expansion.

Super league found one million pounds to give to Leigh yet they wouldn’t offer a cent to Toronto out of the central money

toulose has to pay travel costs for teams

meanwhile the nrl just added a team who has assets for 100 million and whose license is worth another 100 million

so yeh no comparison

 

[Ride the Lion to Zion]

Super league found one million pounds to give to Leigh yet they wouldn’t offer a cent to Toronto out of the central money

Toronto was built on sand. Sad, but true.

 

[Wb1234]

Toronto was built on sand. Sad, but true.

Nah it wasn’t

super league is built on sand

and they had nyc and ottowa ready to join

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Huh ?

you literally just agreed with my point after trying to disagree above

lol

No, I pointed out those timeslots don’t actually rate.
They’re used for other reasons, because of NZ time differences and because they fit around the more desirable ones.

 

[Wb1234]

But it’s still useful for the NRL because they need to fit all games in without overlap and it lines up with the time difference.

There you go

 

[Perth Red]

There'll be a super sunday 2pm,4pm,6pm.
Question is do you want the existing Australian teams filling the new sunday 6pm slot every weekend? cant imagine it will be great for fans or corporates.
Or do you want a Perth team filling it every other week where it will be prime time for fans in Perth for a sunday afternoon game and cut the impact of the addition of another poor time slot down by half? Australian teams rate better than the Warriors, all of them. Australian TV pays 90% plus of the tv deal.
You'd need to get Sky to massively up the current $32million to equal the value of adding a new Australian metro market of fast approaching 3million people, imo.

NZ2 benefits if they and the warriors take the dreaded 6pm slot between them for the full season. But then as said there's problems with Wellingtons stadium for night games. Not sure how negotiable that is?

 

[Wb1234]

In terms of tv deals the warriors are one of the most valuable teams

firstly they help generate 38 million from sky nz

secondly they take all the bad timeslots which Aussie teams don’t want as it would be dire for crowds

for example the Friday 6 pm is massive for fox bc it helps them take away viewers from nine

a second nz team will be very valuable for both nz and Aussie networks for the same reasons

 

[Pneuma]

what is the biggest viewership figure ever for a game? Four million? Seems that Australias "heartland" doesn't care that much for League. a third of the "heartland" population and a fifth of the total population is the most that's ever watched a game..

4 million is about high as any show can get here.

 

[Wb1234]

4 million is about high as any show can get here.

it’s like he knows literally nothing about the nrl

 

[Te Kaha]

4 million is about high as any show can get here.

Of course it is, you can't expect everybody to enjoy the same thing. But wally and his mate are going on about the monolithic NRL when it's only ever captured 20% viewers at its highest.
Compare this to NZ when late last year we had a woman's Rugby game get to 1.5 million or 30% of the population and have previously had an All Blacks match cross 2 million or 40% of the population.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

In terms of tv deals the warriors are one of the most valuable teams

firstly they help generate 38 million from sky nz

secondly they take all the bad timeslots which Aussie teams don’t want as it would be dire for crowds

for example the Friday 6 pm is massive for fox bc it helps them take away viewers from nine

a second nz team will be very valuable for both nz and Aussie networks for the same reasons

These parts are actually true, now you’re getting somewhere