New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

[Wb1234]

I think the most likely people to switch support will be those who actually have the incentive of being able to go to games- so itd be silly to try to push people from the Waikato or BoP who can still realistically go to a Warriors game or two a year if they're keen for a bit of a drive, to support a team that are well out of day trip range.

That

Warriors wouldnt need to completely revert to Auckland, but define their catchment as Auckland, Northland, Waikato and the Bay of Plenty, and encourage them to move a game or two each seasons to Hamilton and Rotorua - both within 2.5 hrs drive of Auckland, and home to another half million or so people all up in those regions.

There's something of a natural divide through the central north island anyway, of places that tend to look towards Auckland as "the city" or towards wellington, and that'd fit that conveniently.

i think we’re finally sorting out where a new club should play it’s game based on these posts

 

[Perth Red]

In terms of tv deals the warriors are one of the most valuable teams

firstly they help generate 38 million from sky nz

secondly they take all the bad timeslots which Aussie teams don’t want as it would be dire for crowds

for example the Friday 6 pm is massive for fox bc it helps them take away viewers from nine

a second nz team will be very valuable for both nz and Aussie networks for the same reasons

No they don’t, they pay $32mill for the whole comp, not just to screen warriors games.

These parts are actually true, now you’re getting somewhere

it’s not, the amount is wrong, they pay for 8 games a week not just the warriors game, warriors don’t play every game in the dreaded 6pm Friday slot. Apart from that he’s correct lol.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

No they don’t, they pay $32mill for the whole comp, not just to screen warriors games.


it’s not, the amount is wrong, they pay for 8 games a week not just the warriors game, warriors don’t play every game in the dreaded 6pm Friday slot. Apart from that he’s correct lol.

But if the warriors weren’t in the competition they’d pay a fraction of that. The value of the NRL to NZ broadcasters is largely contingent on there being an NZ based team there. A second team would increase that value but as Te Kaha points out you’d also need some competition to force Sky to up their offer.

 

[Wb1234]

But if the warriors weren’t in the competition they’d pay a fraction of that. The value of the NRL to NZ broadcasters is largely contingent on there being an NZ based team there. A second team would increase that value but as Te Kaha points out you’d also need some competition to force Sky to up their offer.

They will pay more for another team

it doesn’t have to be another 30 million either
If it just covered the grant it would be perfect leaving the arlc to profit from selling the 9th game to Australian tv

one can only imagine what kind of ratings the nz derby games would get

 

[Te Kaha]

They will pay more for another team

it doesn’t have to be another 30 million either
If it just covered the grant it would be perfect leaving the arlc to profit from selling the 9th game to Australian tv

one can only imagine what kind of ratings the nz derby games would get

No they wont. If the next deal is anywhere more than 25 Million i will eat my hat.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Gws operated on a revenue of $46mill in 2021, more than any sydney nrl club. $24mill was from afl grant and$22mil was fc operation Revenue.

GWS is touted as an abject failure by the NSWRL fans on here, yet they're generating twice as much revenue from football operations than Sydney's strongest NRL club.

Rugby league is trailing its main competitor by a massive margin and it is growing larger. The usual suspects will say it is irrelevant because clubs have gaming machines to plug some of the gap, but they're comforting themselves because they're too insecure to face the truth.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

The fact that you're on a mission to abolish Sydney clubs, destroy people Rugby League clubs, destroy hundreds of thousands of fans passion and love , their past times where they takes their families and cheer on with their sons and daughters. Destroy over a hundred years of history, great players and stories throughout those years and disregard their contribution.

You want the destruction of our game, our fans and our history!
You are a vile piece of shit.
You are anti Rugby League.
I'll never again read one of your stupid posts.

Is this the biggest meltdown in LU's history?

I'm going to bookmark this crazy post so I can read it for a laugh every now and then.

 

[Te Kaha]

Is this the biggest meltdown in LU's history?

I'm going to bookmark this crazy post so I can read it for a laugh every now and then.

No his previous meltdown was worse. He gets so angry at words on a screen... it can't be healthy.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

No his previous meltdown was worse. He gets so angry at words on a screen... it can't be healthy.

I'm still laughing at his post. He's the most entertaining poster on this board.

 

[Perth Red]

But if the warriors weren’t in the competition they’d pay a fraction of that. The value of the NRL to NZ broadcasters is largely contingent on there being an NZ based team there. A second team would increase that value but as Te Kaha points out you’d also need some competition to force Sky to up their offer.

not denying that, but it’s false to say they are paying $32mill for the warriors. I wonder what the sky ratings are for warriors compared to the other 7 games a week?

 

[Te Kaha]

not denying that, but it’s false to say they are paying $32mill for the warriors. I wonder what the sky ratings are for warriors compared to the other 7 games a week?

They average between 35-50K for the other games. WIthout the Warriors the NRL does not rate at all.

 

[Perth Red]

They average between 35-50K for the other games. WIthout the Warriors the NRL does not rate at all.

What’s the warriors games get?

 

[Perth Red]

No they wont. If the next deal is anywhere more than 25 Million i will eat my hat.

Not to mention we still don’t know how much fo the $12 mill increase is cash.

 

[Te Kaha]

What’s the warriors games get?

It was 125-250k depending on what was on at the same time. Ratings are no longer published.

 

[Wb1234]

Wow so the warriors get 200k viewers back home and another 600k watching their games in Australia

the fact that nrl gets 500k viewers a week in nz should be included in our ratings figures

that’s another 13 million viewers that need to be added to our total

it’s obvious on so many levels nz2 trounces Perth

the cake tin is probably a bit better than hbf park and the new stadium in Christchurch annhiliates ot

 

[Te Kaha]

Wow so the warriors get 200k viewers back home and another 600k watching their games in Australia

the fact that nrl gets 500k viewers a week in nz should be included in our ratings figures

that’s another 13 million viewers that need to be added to our total

it’s obvious on so many levels nz2 trounces Perth

600K in Australia??? who are you kidding. their average doesn't even you close to that you wally.

Its almost half that on average

2022 NRL/NRLW TV Ratings - Sports Industry AU

NRLW (1) In 2022, the average audience on Channel Nine has eclipsed the combined average for both broadcasters in 2020. About 150,000 people have tuned in to watch NRLW matches on Channel Nine in metropolitan and regional markets. The 53 per cent increase in viewers on Nine is reflected in a...

www.footyindustry.com

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

That gives you exactly one timeslot, and no FTA games. And I doubt Sunday midday games rate particularly well, can you provide evidence that they do? They’re useful because it gives you a way to run three Sunday timeslots, but that’s about it.
Anything after midday eastern time is starting to run into twilight game territory because of the time difference.

Imagine three "4pm" games on a Sunday?

4pm NZST/2pm AEST/12PM AWST
Warriors home game.

6pm NZST/4pm AEST/2PM AWST
QLD/NSW/VIC/ACT home game.

8pm NZST/6pm AEST/4PM AWST
Pirates home game.

 

[Colk]

They will pay more for another team

it doesn’t have to be another 30 million either
If it just covered the grant it would be perfect leaving the arlc to profit from selling the 9th game to Australian tv

one can only imagine what kind of ratings the nz derby games would get

They could pay more. You could even say they should pay more. Yet I wouldn’t say that they will pay more in NZ

The money in all likelihood will come from Australia in any case and I think any option should cover the costs. It just depends on whether that is acceptable or not.

 

[Wb1234]

They could pay more. You could even say they should pay more. Yet I wouldn’t say that they will pay more in NZ

The money in all likelihood will come from Australia in any case and I think any option should cover the costs. It just depends on whether that is acceptable or not.

If the current product is doing well whilst other sports struggle why wouldn’t they want to pay more for more high rating content ?

it’s just not logical

I provided quotes from sky nz how they want the game to grow and are going to invest money in grassroots rugby league

who knows maybe with the warriors back in nz now league goes from strength to strength as super rugby is on the nose with fans

 

[SpaceMonkey]

They could pay more. You could even say they should pay more. Yet I wouldn’t say that they will pay more in NZ

The money in all likelihood will come from Australia in any case and I think any option should cover the costs. It just depends on whether that is acceptable or not.

It really comes down to who blinks in the negotiations. Sky know they’d be getting more content value and wouldn’t want to lose the NRL, but the NRL don’t want to lose Sky money either.