New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

[Gobsmacked]

The sporting equivalent to the NZRL in WA.

I researched it and unsurprisingly has about as much to do with Rugby League as Badminton.. but strangely you find a way to link the 2.

I want you to just do a little research for all of us. Watch a game of Rugby league, then watch a game of AFL immediately after.
Then explain just to yourself first what they have in common.
If you can find 1 thing other than " they both involve a ball.."
Then please share.
Otherwise you are a potato

 

[Perth Red]

I researched it and unsurprisingly has about as much to do with Rugby League as Badminton.. but strangely you find a way to link the 2.

I want you to just do a little research for all of us. Watch a game of Rugby league, then watch a game of AFL immediately after.
Then explain just to yourself first what they have in common.
If you can find 1 thing other than " they both involve a ball.."
Then please share.
Otherwise you are a potato

They are both independent sports organisations responsible for running the sport in their geographical jurisdictions. You are the dork that asked about Perth in relation to a discussion on NZRL lol

You asked: How are NZRL doing in comparison to Perth?

I thought you must have been asking about the nearest equivalent organisations. Of course you could have just been a troll with a facetious irrelevant comment posted purely to provoke a response and derail another thread, but I gave you the benefit of the doubt

 

[Gobsmacked]

They are both independent sports organisations responsible for running the sport in their geographical jurisdictions. You are the dork that asked about Perth in relation to a discussion on NZRL lol

You asked: How are NZRL doing in comparison to Perth?

I thought you must have been asking about the nearest equivalent organisations. Of course you could have just been a troll with a facetious irrelevant comment posted purely to provoke a response and derail another thread, but I gave you the benefit of the doubt

So the nearest equivalent organisation- to NZRL in Perth is AFL..
That's your answer?
Aren't you the same guy that wants a Perth RL team?
You've lost the plot mate .
Even your contradictions have contradictions

 

[greenBV4]

The sporting equivalent to the NZRL in WA.

tbf thats not really an equivalent either, RU would be the equivalent to wafc in NZ

but yeah, it was a stupid question that didn't really warrant a response other than there isn't an equivalent

 

[Wb1234]

tbf thats not really an equivalent either, RU would be the equivalent to wafc in NZ

but yeah, it was a stupid question that didn't really warrant a response other than there isn't an equivalent

First sentence was so good then the second one not so much

he made a joke about nz having an nrl team whilst Perth don’t (because news ltd didn’t want a team in Perth)

 

[Wb1234]

comments

 

[greenBV4]

First sentence was so good then the second one not so much

he made a joke about nz having an nrl team whilst Perth don’t (because news ltd didn’t want a team in Perth)

doesn't change the fact there isn't a like for like equivalent for the nzrl in wa, the arlc took full control of the affiliate states governing bodies

 

[Perth Red]

So the nearest equivalent organisation- to NZRL in Perth is AFL..
That's your answer?
Aren't you the same guy that wants a Perth RL team?
You've lost the plot mate .
Even your contradictions have contradictions

yes it is. Both independent sports organisations looking after a sport in a defined geographic region. So when you asked your question who were you thinking of?

'How are NZRL doing in comparison to Perth? '

 

[Gobsmacked]

yes it is. Both independent sports organisations looking after a sport in a defined geographic region. So when you asked your question who were you thinking of?

'How are NZRL doing in comparison to Perth? '

It doesn't matter how many times you say it. It's as redundant as the first

 

[Dark Corner]

Stop this argument and lets have NRL teams in both X

 

[The Great Dane]

Im not suggesting they be taken over, but that they be given a seat on the commission so there is closer working and strategy development. Similar as was done with NSWRL and QRL.

If the NRL has 'dumped' money on them in the past without agreed strategy and kpi's then more fool them.

That's literally the point...

On and off for a long time now the NZRL and Australian RL's relationship has more or less been the NZRL asking for support and handouts, but refusing to be beholden to any sort of oversight/KPI's/strategy, whatever you want to call it, that involves the Australian organisation having any real say on how it's spent. The NSWRL/ARL/NRL get's hectored into giving it to them by clueless do-gooders, it disappears into a blackhole with nothing to show for it, then the NZRL whacks their hand out again.

So why would anybody support the NRL giving them more money given the circumstances and their track record?

Since the NZRL won't agree to a partnership with Australian RL and can't be trusted with resources on their own, the only sensible way for the NRL/ARLC to invest in RL in NZ is to find ways to do it themselves. You could make a fair argument that that's effectively the role that the Warriors play as the NZ based NRL club, even if that wasn't really the initial intentions.

 

[Te Kaha]

That's literally the point...

On and off for a long time now the NZRL and Australian RL's relationship has more or less been the NZRL asking for support and handouts, but refusing to be beholden to any sort of oversight/KPI's/strategy, whatever you want to call it, that involves the Australian organisation having any real say on how it's spent. The NSWRL/ARL/NRL get's hectored into giving it to them by clueless do-gooders, it disappears into a blackhole with nothing to show for it, then the NZRL whacks their hand out again.

So why would anybody support the NRL giving them more money given the circumstances and their track record?

Since the NZRL won't agree to a partnership with Australian RL and can't be trusted with resources on their own, the only sensible way for the NRL/ARLC to invest in RL in NZ is to find ways to do it themselves. You could make a fair argument that that's effectively the role that the Warriors play as the NZ based NRL club, even if that wasn't really the initial intentions.

There is a simple solution. Bring back transfer fees. It was Australian League that killed them, bring them back. It allows the NZRL to be funded and look after its own area, and it's not a "hand out". Of course the Aussie clubs wont like that due to the added cost of raping this country.

 

[Wb1234]

That's literally the point...

On and off for a long time now the NZRL and Australian RL's relationship has more or less been the NZRL asking for support and handouts, but refusing to be beholden to any sort of oversight/KPI's/strategy, whatever you want to call it, that involves the Australian organisation having any real say on how it's spent. The NSWRL/ARL/NRL get's hectored into giving it to them by clueless do-gooders, it disappears into a blackhole with nothing to show for it, then the NZRL whacks their hand out again.

So why would anybody support the NRL giving them more money given the circumstances and their track record?

Since the NZRL won't agree to a partnership with Australian RL and can't be trusted with resources on their own, the only sensible way for the NRL/ARLC to invest in RL in NZ is to find ways to do it themselves. You could make a fair argument that that's effectively the role that the Warriors play as the NZ based NRL club, even if that wasn't really the initial intentions.

That’s a really good post

 

[Perth Red]

That's literally the point...

On and off for a long time now the NZRL and Australian RL's relationship has more or less been the NZRL asking for support and handouts, but refusing to be beholden to any sort of oversight/KPI's/strategy, whatever you want to call it, that involves the Australian organisation having any real say on how it's spent. The NSWRL/ARL/NRL get's hectored into giving it to them by clueless do-gooders, it disappears into a blackhole with nothing to show for it, then the NZRL whacks their hand out again.

So why would anybody support the NRL giving them more money given the circumstances and their track record?

Since the NZRL won't agree to a partnership with Australian RL and can't be trusted with resources on their own, the only sensible way for the NRL/ARLC to invest in RL in NZ is to find ways to do it themselves. You could make a fair argument that that's effectively the role that the Warriors play as the NZ based NRL club, even if that wasn't really the initial intentions.

Do you have an example of this? cant see anything in nzrl annual reports in last few years that shows something like this Has happened? When and what are you specifically talking about?

reality is with a revenue of just $7mill the nzrl isnt ever going to be able to do anything significant in regards to growing the game there.

 

[Stormy weather]

Stuff

i.stuff.co.nz

Time to put the pressure on?

 

[Wb1234]

Nzru poses a record loss

maybe they have to sell off more silverware to private equity to stay afloat

 

[docbrown]

Stuff

i.stuff.co.nz

Time to put the pressure on?

Spiffing. Break out the pimms!

 

[Wb1234]

Stuff

i.stuff.co.nz

Time to put the pressure on?

“The organisation is looking to diversify revenue streams which possibly include NFTs (non-fungible tokens) and cryptocurrency. “

investing in bitcoin or maybe even an all blacks crypto

 

[The Great Dane]

There is a simple solution. Bring back transfer fees. It was Australian League that killed them, bring them back. It allows the NZRL to be funded and look after its own area, and it's not a "hand out". Of course the Aussie clubs wont like that due to the added cost of raping this country.

The reason they killed them is because transfer fees are pretty much illegal in Australia.

You'd either need to find a loophole to bring them back in a form unique to the Australian market, or hope that nobody challenges it and that the government turns a blind eye like they do with AFL's draft (drafts are also legally ambiguous in Australia).

 

[The Great Dane]

Do you have an example of this? cant see anything in nzrl annual reports in last few years that shows something like this Has happened? When and what are you specifically talking about?

It's happened on and off going back literally decades, and there're reasons why Australian RL institutions have stopped the practice. The last significant ones I can remember off the top of my head were probably in the 90s, both before and during SL if you include News' investment into the NZRL.

In more recent times things have gone pretty much as I said before; the NZRL asks for some kind of support, the NRL says "once bitten twice shy, only if you agree to certain criteria", and the NZRL refuses the criteria more or less claiming it'd impact on their sovereignty or some shit.

The NRL still gives the NZRL a nominal amount annually to this day BTW. It's money wasted.

reality is with a revenue of just $7mill the nzrl isnt ever going to be able to do anything significant in regards to growing the game there.

That is very much a situation of their own making, and attempts to help them out have either been squandered or spurned.

I don't know what you want exactly, but it's very difficult to help somebody that refuses to be helped.