New Zealand 2 will deal a massive blow to NZ rugby

[Te Kaha]

RL can only hope to carve out a strong niche in NZ. That should be its aim. The two codes need to work together to survive. There's going to be fewer people playing both games over the next few decades due to CTE.

And that's the truth of it. Unless something is done, contact team sports are a sunset industry.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

And that's the truth of it. Unless something is done, contact team sports are a sunset industry.

There will always be a few adults willing to play contact sport, but junior numbers will plummet and it will have a huge impact on the amount of people playing the game professionally. The game at the amateur level will become almost non-existent.

 

[Wb1234]

Hey numbnuts, the 2 million a year was for a team in Japan. Not France. I swear you are actually getting dumber.

I wonder what you are going to do to measure your failing masculinity when they continue to remove the "toughness" from League, no "biff", no shoulder charges, sin bin for throwing a punch. And it will continue to remove the "toughness" the more junior numbers decrease.
It must be a worry to you that the NRL has already stated they don't have enough players for expansion and need NZs juniors, without even realising there aren't many of them.

Nrl Is adding teams and raising its salary cap

and they’ve decimated the union playing ranks in Australia

and New Zealand will be next

money talks

 

[Wb1234]

And that's the truth of it. Unless something is done, contact team sports are a sunset industry.

No league has great hia protocols

union has major problems they need to ban competitive scrums which they will never do until the class action lawsuit in England leaves the English game with a massive payout

as you said before League has made a lot of changes to make it safer

 

[Te Kaha]

There will always be a few adults willing to play contact sport, but junior numbers will plummet and it will have a huge impact on the amount of people playing the game professionally. The game at the amateur level will become almost non-existent.

That's why UFC and boxing still remain popular. You don't need a team for that. There will always be individuals who want "contact", but there numbers are decreasing. We see it NZ with Basketball the most popular team sport among Māori and Pacific Islanders, when it used to be Rugby and to a lesser extent league.

Nrl Is adding teams and raising its salary cap

and they’ve decimated the union playing ranks in Australia

and New Zealand will be next

money talks

Money does talk, you can earn much more playing in NZ then getting a massive overseas contract in Japan or Europe. Come back when the NRL has 2 million a year contracts.

No league has great hia protocols

union has major problems they need to ban competitive scrums which they will never do until the class action lawsuit in England leaves the English game with a massive payout

as you said before League has made a lot of changes to make it safer

You really don't have a clue you muppet. Scrums do not cause concussion. Tackles do.

In League a tackle that "slips up" and hits the head can still cause concussion., but its allowed. In Rugby it no longer is. A class action for "personal injury" i.e. concussion caused CTE will cripple the NRL. It's one thing that can't happen in NZ.

 

[Wb1234]

That's why UFC and boxing still remain popular. You don't need a team for that. There will always be individuals who want "contact", but there numbers are decreasing. We see it NZ with Basketball the most popular team sport among Māori and Pacific Islanders, when it used to be Rugby and to a lesser extent league.



Money does talk, you can earn much more playing in NZ then getting a massive overseas contract in Japan or Europe. Come back when the NRL has 2 million a year contracts.




You really don't have a clue you muppet. Scrums do not cause concussion. Tackles do.

In League a tackle that "slips up" and hits the head can still cause concussion., but its allowed. In Rugby it no longer is. A class action for "personal injury" i.e. concussion caused CTE will cripple the NRL. It's one thing that can't happen in NZ.

Competitive scrums do cause it and will need to be banned

union will look more and more like a poor man’s version of rugby league

and kiwi players don’t earn 2 million playing in nz you dunce

indeed the top all blacks are on 1 million to 1.4 million

why would a player want to go to Japan when he can play in one of the worlds best cities like Sydney and be every where he goes he will be recognised

League players get treated like rock stars here

unlike all blacks or wallabies they could walk down the streets and nobody would know them.

 

[Te Kaha]

Competitive scrums do cause it and will need to be banned

union will look more and more like a poor man’s version of rugby league

and kiwi players don’t earn 2 million playing in nz you dunce

indeed the top all blacks are on 1 million to 1.4 million

why would a player want to go to Japan when he can play in one of the worlds best cities like Sydney and be every where he goes he will be recognised

League players get treated like rock stars here

unlike all blacks or wallabies they could walk down the streets and nobody would know them.

Scrums do not cause concussion you idiot. No matter how many times you say it, doesn't make it true. They won't get banned and your wishful thinking wont change that.

According to the NRL the average "lifespan" of an NRL player is four years. An All Black can play in NZ for 6-10 years and then get a massive contract for millions overseas. It's a no brainer which they will prefer. four years to 8-12.

League players treated like rock stars in Sydney? So what? If anybody requires that level of attention All Blacks are treated like "rock stars" in NZ.

Is 30 the new 20?

Cameron Smith is unlikely to be the last of league's 'forever men', writes Ed Carmine 👇

www.zerotackle.com

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

That's why UFC and boxing still remain popular. You don't need a team for that. There will always be individuals who want "contact", but there numbers are decreasing. We see it NZ with Basketball the most popular team sport among Māori and Pacific Islanders, when it used to be Rugby and to a lesser extent league.



Money does talk, you can earn much more playing in NZ then getting a massive overseas contract in Japan or Europe. Come back when the NRL has 2 million a year contracts.




You really don't have a clue you muppet. Scrums do not cause concussion. Tackles do.

In League a tackle that "slips up" and hits the head can still cause concussion., but its allowed. In Rugby it no longer is. A class action for "personal injury" i.e. concussion caused CTE will cripple the NRL. It's one thing that can't happen in NZ.

I have seen more Maoris in the NBL. Basketball has a lot of potential in Australia and New Zealand. The Christmas game between Kings and United drew 300k TV viewers.

 

[Te Kaha]

I have seen more Maoris in the NBL. Basketball has a lot of potential in Australia and New Zealand. The Christmas game between Kings and United drew 300k TV viewers.

It's not the NBL that's the attraction. Its the NBA. The amount of development spend by Steven Adams alone in the last few years, leaves what the NRL has done in the last 30 years in the dust.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

It's not the NBL that's the attraction. Its the NBA. The amount of development spend by Steven Adams alone in the last few years, leaves what the NRL has done in the last 30 years in the dust.

Global sports like basketball and soccer have the potential to decimate local sports. The money on offer in American sports and soccer is so great it leaves the local codes in the wind.

 

[Wb1234]

Scrums do not cause concussion you idiot. No matter how many times you say it, doesn't make it true. They won't get banned and your wishful thinking wont change that.

According to the NRL the average "lifespan" of an NRL player is four years. An All Black can play in NZ for 6-10 years and then get a massive contract for millions overseas. It's a no brainer which they will prefer. four years to 8-12.

League players treated like rock stars in Sydney? So what? If anybody requires that level of attention All Blacks are treated like "rock stars" in NZ.

Is 30 the new 20?

Cameron Smith is unlikely to be the last of league's 'forever men', writes Ed Carmine 👇

www.zerotackle.com

They don’t get treated like rock stars in Japan lol

nobody would know who they are

Scrums do not cause concussion you idiot. No matter how many times you say it, doesn't make it true. They won't get banned and your wishful thinking wont change that.

According to the NRL the average "lifespan" of an NRL player is four years. An All Black can play in NZ for 6-10 years and then get a massive contract for millions overseas. It's a no brainer which they will prefer. four years to 8-12.

League players treated like rock stars in Sydney? So what? If anybody requires that level of attention All Blacks are treated like "rock stars" in NZ.

Is 30 the new 20?

Cameron Smith is unlikely to be the last of league's 'forever men', writes Ed Carmine 👇

www.zerotackle.com

Brain Injury in Rugby: Time Has Scrum for Change | Bolt Burdon Kemp

It was bound to happen and now it has. A group of eight former professional rugby players, including former England hooker and World Cup winner Steve Thompson, have launched legal action for the brain injuries they sustained whilst playing rugby. Rugby’s current protocols, in many ways, do a...

www.boltburdonkemp.co.uk

well I guess someone has to play the role of the bad guy on this forum guess you enjoy it

 

[Te Kaha]

They don’t get treated like rock stars in Japan lol

nobody would know who they are

Scrums do not cause concussion you idiot. No matter how many times you say it, doesn't make it true. They won't get banned and your wishful thinking wont change that.

Brain Injury in Rugby: Time Has Scrum for Change | Bolt Burdon Kemp

It was bound to happen and now it has. A group of eight former professional rugby players, including former England hooker and World Cup winner Steve Thompson, have launched legal action for the brain injuries they sustained whilst playing rugby. Rugby’s current protocols, in many ways, do a...

www.boltburdonkemp.co.uk

well I guess someone has to play the role of the bad guy on this forum guess you enjoy it

BAHAHAHA you see the word scrum in the title and you say scrums are the cause. Jeez you are stupid.

From the article " This is particularly relevant for the management of tackles, widely attributed as the biggest cause of head injuries in rugby. Research shows that the tackler is more at risk of a head injury than the tackled and that a number of issues play a part in how an injury can occur – including the height and speed of the tackle, the position of the tackler (an upright tackler is more likely to be injured than one who is bent at the waist) and the position of the players."


And as for "rock stars", A big reason for taking up overseas contracts IS the anonymity. The lack of pressure. It seems only the insecure, like yourself, care about "rock star" status.

 

[Wb1234]

BAHAHAHA you see the word scrum in the title and you say scrums are the cause. Jeez you are stupid.

From the article " This is particularly relevant for the management of tackles, widely attributed as the biggest cause of head injuries in rugby. Research shows that the tackler is more at risk of a head injury than the tackled and that a number of issues play a part in how an injury can occur – including the height and speed of the tackle, the position of the tackler (an upright tackler is more likely to be injured than one who is bent at the waist) and the position of the players."


And as for "rock stars", A big reason for taking up overseas contracts IS the anonymity. The lack of pressure. It seems only the insecure, like yourself, care about "rock star" status.

As much as it’s fun proving you wrong all the time this doesn’t have a lot to do with a second nz nrl team

and maybe for you should spend some time watching their first nrl team rather than argue with people who have been watching this competition for almost 40 years

 

[Te Kaha]

As much as it’s fun proving you wrong all the time this doesn’t have a lot to do with a second nz nrl team

and maybe for you should spend some time watching their first nrl team rather than argue with people who have been watching this competition for almost 40 years

That first line is so fill of unintentional irony. You have yet to get anything right in this thread.

Why would I watch the Warriors? they have been the biggest reason for the decline of domestic League in NZ. The centralisation of talent for the last 25+ years has resulted in the near death of almost every other district in the country.
Forty years? I was playing premier League as an adult forty years ago. I played, administered and refed League and Rugby in Wellington for over 40 years. I have seen first had the damage Aussie League did to the domestic game in NZ.

And now some ignorant Aussies wants to do more damage to the domestic game by attempting to put a second team here, without doing the work to set up the junior pathways and repair the damage already done. Just because they are running out of juniors of their own.

 

[Wb1234]

That first line is so fill of unintentional irony. You have yet to get anything right in this thread.

Why would I watch the Warriors? they have been the biggest reason for the decline of domestic League in NZ. The centralisation of talent for the last 25+ years has resulted in the near death of almost every other district in the country.
Forty years? I was playing premier League as an adult forty years ago. I played, administered and refed League and Rugby in Wellington for over 40 years. I have seen first had the damage Aussie League did to the domestic game in NZ.

And now some ignorant Aussies wants to do more damage to the domestic game by attempting to put a second team here, without doing the work to set up the junior pathways and repair the damage already done. Just because they are running out of juniors of their own.

Yeh you didn’t strike me as a warriors fan

good you finding this forum though lol

 

[Te Kaha]

Yeh you didn’t strike me as a warriors fan

good you finding this forum though lol

What are you on about dipshit? I was here when the forum started,

 

[Wb1234]

What are you on about dipshit? I was here when the forum started,

Hey if you want to spend so much time on a forum with people who clearly like rugby league it’s good for you

you would never catch me a union forum telling them why rugby league is the best lol

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

That first line is so fill of unintentional irony. You have yet to get anything right in this thread.

Why would I watch the Warriors? they have been the biggest reason for the decline of domestic League in NZ. The centralisation of talent for the last 25+ years has resulted in the near death of almost every other district in the country.
Forty years? I was playing premier League as an adult forty years ago. I played, administered and refed League and Rugby in Wellington for over 40 years. I have seen first had the damage Aussie League did to the domestic game in NZ.

And now some ignorant Aussies wants to do more damage to the domestic game by attempting to put a second team here, without doing the work to set up the junior pathways and repair the damage already done. Just because they are running out of juniors of their own.

The NSWRL killed the BRL and NZRL with gaming machine revenue. I'm convinced the only way RL can survive long-term in New Zealand is by creating three to five teams in New Zealand to produce proper local rivalries. The teams would need to be subsidised by the ARLC, but it's the least the ARL can do to make up for the damage they've done to the game in New Zealand.

A third Brisbane team on the southside is needed at some stage to make up for the damage caused by killing the BRL.

For all of this to happen we'll need go get rid of three or four Sydney clubs. It'll anger people in Sydney, but it's a necessity to save the game. The fact all Sydney clubs earn less money from football operations than the Broncos and Cowboys means rationalisation is long overdue so we can grow the game in New Zealand, Adelaide and Perth.

 

[Homo man69]

Hey numbnuts, the 2 million a year was for a team in Japan. Not France. I swear you are actually getting dumber.

I wonder what you are going to do to measure your failing masculinity when they continue to remove the "toughness" from League, no "biff", no shoulder charges, sin bin for throwing a punch. And it will continue to remove the "toughness" the more junior numbers decrease.
It must be a worry to you that the NRL has already stated they don't have enough players for expansion and need NZs juniors, without even realising there aren't many of them.we please stop all this masculinity talk. I'm a homosexual man with a sex drive just like you but opposite. How would you like me talking about "hot chicks" all the time

Petals can we please stop all this masculinity talk. I'm a homosexual man that's struggled with my masculinity for years and years. Until one day I told myself "Victor, stop being a silly billy and accept your a homosexual". It was the greatest day of my life but my mother and step father cried all afternoon. That night was hard but the next day I visited a place called Arrows, a gay bathhouse in parramatta. After cleaning myself up I noticed a parramatta player in the carpark. We talked for hours whilst crying and laughing. He told me his coming out story and I become a parramatta fanboy. So petals please don't fight and enjoy this forum
Ps I know you all are dying to know the players name. Here are a few clues, he's a winger that played during the early 2000's and had a very odd international team.

 

[Brian potter]

At the time the discussions with Bennett happened Stevenson had just missed out on the ABs XV (which is the NZ B team), but he got called in as an injury replacement and played really well. Sadly I don't think the selectors rate him as high as the public do.

Let’s hope not. Could go well in league.